A sobering question regarding US bombing Iran nuke program

[AZrailwhale]

If Trump allow Netanyahu to draw the US into a shooting war with Iran, it would be a catastrophe of the first order.

Trump is an idiot among leaders, and is surrounded by the know nothing yes men he installed.

None of them are smart enough, prepared, or serious enough to manage a war.

Tehran will respond by closing the Straits of Hormuz, putting you in gas lines again.

And they will use terrorism, specifically aimed at U.S. targets as a counter measure.

Right wing podcasters are not accurate or reliable news sources, and are almost alway proving someone’s agenda.

Oh, and American air strikes will virtually guarantee an Iranian nuclear weapon.

Iran can't close the Straits of Hormuz, they tried it and failed in the Tanker War of the eighties and had a better military then than they do now. As for terrorism, Iran already is the foremost sponsor of terrorists in the world today, so they already do that.

 

[TimFitz]

Preventing Iran from going nuclear is a risk

Allowing to go nuclear is a bigger risk

Trump should have though of that when he unilaterally tore up the only effective agreement giving a Iran n incentive to curb its program.

Iran was in compliance.

Trump’s jingoistic stupidity is the primary reason Iran resumed its program.

 

[TimFitz]

Like you I get information from a variety of sources

But unlike you I never underestimate people just because we disagree

I think you are far more closed minded than I am

Btw: all the news organization you listed sing from the same songbook

If you had a hundred more like them you would still be wrong most of the time

“But unlike you I never underestimate people just because we disagree”

I never said that. Of course, whether I disagree is irrelevant.

Facts are.

“Btw: all the news organization you listed sing from the same songbook”

how do you know? What basis do you have for trying to suggest that they are not accurate or reliable news outlets?

Where do you get your news.

 

[westwall]

Trump should have though of that when he unilaterally tore up the only effective agreement giving a Iran n incentive to curb its program.

Iran was in compliance.

Trump’s jingoistic stupidity is the primary reason Iran resumed its program.

Iran never stopped you idiot.

 

[TimFitz]

Iran can't close the Straits of Hormuz, they tried it and failed in the Tanker War of the eighties and had a better military then than they do now. As for terrorism, Iran already is the foremost sponsor of terrorists in the world today, so they already do that.

They closed it in 1973 and again in 1979.

I suppose you don’t remember the gas lines. Maybe you weren’t old enough.

 

[whitehall]

What if it doesn't work? It's easy to imagine Ike was thinking the same thing prior to D-Day and maybe Custer was having second thoughts about Little Big Horn. We elected a president to have some balls instead of falling asleep during foreign policy meetings and wandering into the freaking jungle during photo ops. . Trust Trump and deal with it.

 

[TimFitz]

Iran never stopped you idiot.

Iran was in compliance, and had reduced enrichment and dismantled center fugues.

if you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t compound your stupidity with name calling.

 

[TimFitz]

Iran can't close the Straits of Hormuz, they tried it and failed in the Tanker War of the eighties and had a better military then than they do now. As for terrorism, Iran already is the foremost sponsor of terrorists in the world today, so they already do that.

When was the last Iranian terrorist attack?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Trump should have though of that when he unilaterally tore up the only effective agreement giving a Iran n incentive to curb its program.

Iran was in compliance.

Trump’s jingoistic stupidity is the primary reason Iran resumed its program.

If IRAN WAS IN COMPLIANCE, HOW COME IT DENIED TIMELY INSPECTIONS?

 

[TimFitz]

If IRAN WAS IN COMPLIANCE, HOW COME IT DENIED TIMELY INSPECTIONS?

It didn’t.

 

[Mac-7]

Iran was in compliance.

Thats not what I heard

The Irans were not allowing full access

 

[AZrailwhale]

They closed it in 1973 and again in 1979.

I suppose you don’t remember the gas lines. Maybe you weren’t old enough.

I remember them, they were caused by OPEC cutting production, not shipping losses. in 1984, 28 ships were attacked by EITHER Iraq or Iran. Of those ONE was sunk, and seven received severe damage. In 1987, 86 ships were attacked, with 4 sunk and 10 severely damaged. In 1988, 83 ships were attacked with 2 sunk and 13 receiving severe damage. Most attacks involved boats with outboard motors shooting RPGs and machine guns. Some Silkworms were involved against unescorted ships. Those attacks cost Iran half of its navy destroyed as well as several offshore drilling platforms.

 

[Oddball]

Yes, they would all become martyrs and live forever in paradise. The Mullahs are religious fanatics and really, really believe that.

Then why is it probable that Khameni vamoosed to Oman, rather then take the incoming that might make him such a martyr?

Anyone care to answer that?....Beuller?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Then why is it probable that Khameni vamoosed to Oman, rather then take the incoming that might make him such a martyr?

Anyone care to answer that?....Beuller?

Like most religious leaders, he is happy to sacrifice ithers but not himself.

 

[Oddball]

Like most religious leaders, he is happy to sacrifice ithers but not himself.

That kind of cuts into your narrative, doesn't it?

What if they're so self-interested in their own power that they wouldn't launch a first-strike attack, out of the same sense of self-preservation?

 

[TimFitz]

Then why is it probable that Khameni vamoosed to Oman, rather then take the incoming that might make him such a martyr?

Anyone care to answer that?....Beuller?

Where do you get the ridiculous idea that an Iranian would “vamoose” to an Arab country?

 

[BackAgain]

Where do you get the ridiculous idea that an Iranian would “vamoose” to an Arab country?

Yeah. Obviously if he fled it was to Israel.

What a dopey question.

 

[Oddball]

Where do you get the ridiculous idea that an Iranian would “vamoose” to an Arab country?

Because, unlike you, I'm gathering information from places other than MSDNC and Fakes Nooz.

 

[westwall]

Iran was in compliance, and had reduced enrichment and dismantled center fugues.

if you don’t know what you’re talking about, don’t compound your stupidity with name calling.

No, it wasn't. It has NEVER been in compliance. The regulators have NEVER been allowed unrestricted inspections. So it has been nothing but a farce that ignorant people fell for.

 

[westwall]

It didn’t.

Liar