A sobering question regarding US bombing Iran nuke program

[Blaster]

You really think that even the mullahs want the 72 virgins so badly that they'd risk the annihilation of their people?

Yep

 

[TimFitz]

I support using US military bombing Iran nuke site

But what if the bunker buster bomb fails to dtop Iran from building atomic warheads and achieving nuclear capability?

Even if we destroy their nuclear reactor are they far enough along already to assemble one or more nuclear warheads?

If Trump allow Netanyahu to draw the US into a shooting war with Iran, it would be a catastrophe of the first order.

Trump is an idiot among leaders, and is surrounded by the know nothing yes men he installed.

None of them are smart enough, prepared, or serious enough to manage a war.

Tehran will respond by closing the Straits of Hormuz, putting you in gas lines again.

And they will use terrorism, specifically aimed at U.S. targets as a counter measure.

Right wing podcasters are not accurate or reliable news sources, and are almost alway proving someone’s agenda.

Oh, and American air strikes will virtually guarantee an Iranian nuclear weapon.

 

[TimFitz]

Sorry, I don't have half an hour to waste on waiting to find out what Kirk's position is when you should have summarized that in your OP.

Who cares anyway. He’s just a right wing podcaster.

He is probably better informed than Hegsgeth or Trump.

But that doesn’t count for much.

 

[JohnDB]

You really think that even the mullahs want the 72 virgins so badly that they'd risk the annihilation of their people?

Now see,
If Israel exists (which Iran has denied since 1948) then Mohammed is a false prophet. Because unless a prophet is 100% accurate he is always a false prophet.....and Mohammed declared Israel would never exist again.

However, that country that doesn't exist is kicking their but. And the USA has not been involved.

Which is a great reason for staying out of it. Because if Israel wins this war ALL by itself.....Mohammed was a liar and the Muslim religion is done....because then Muslim religion is based entirely on a false prophet and lies.

And one other tidbit....
During the Mullahs tenure they have been extremely self serving and militantly demanding of religious regulations.

They have not exactly endeared the support of the people by any stretch.

 

[Oddball]

Yep

Not how human nature works.

Just like every other warmonger running the show, they send the "true believers" out to get killed....They're too important to be put at risk like that...And having a large swathe of their support base eliminated puts their continued place in power at risk.

That's not my opinion, that's history.

 

[Oddball]

Now see,
If Israel exists (which Iran has denied since 1948) then Mohammed is a false prophet. Because unless a prophet is 100% accurate he is always a false prophet.....and Mohammed declared Israel would never exist again.

However, that country that doesn't exist is kicking their but. And the USA has not been involved.

Which is a great reason for staying out of it. Because if Israel wins this war ALL by itself.....Mohammed was a liar and the Muslim religion is done....because then Muslim religion is based entirely on a false prophet and lies.

We will see about that...Especially the "USA not being involved" part.

 

[JLW]

If Trump allow Netanyahu to draw the US into a shooting war with Iran, it would be a catastrophe of the first order.

Trump is an idiot among leaders, and is surrounded by the know nothing yes men he installed.

None of them are smart enough, prepared, or serious enough to manage a war.

Tehran will respond by closing the Straits of Hormuz, putting you in gas lines again.

And they will use terrorism, specifically aimed at U.S. targets as a counter measure.

Right wing podcasters are not accurate or reliable news sources, and are almost alway proving someone’s agenda.

Oh, and American air strikes will virtually guarantee an Iranian nuclear weapon.

I would also add that what these warmongers fail to comprehend is that our actions will not happen in a vacuum.

Like the Iraq War destabilized the whole region and begot ISIS our involvement wil also destabilize the entire region.

What if the Pakistani government gets destabilized?

I wonder what these idiots will say when the government of Pakistan gets overthrown and replaced by Islamic fundamentalists because we created the right environment for it?

They have 90 nuclear bombs.

But MAGAs can’t see past the here and now much less an hour from now.

 

[JohnDB]

Not how human nature works.

Just like every other warmonger running the show, they send the "true believers" out to get killed....They're too important to be put at risk like that...And having a large swathe of their support base eliminated puts their continued place in power at risk.

That's not my opinion, that's history.

Self serving leadership finds other power hungry "true believers" to help remain in power.

The IRGC is fighting for their own lives....literally from both sides. Their own people as well as the enemy will dispatch them if they lose.....and currently they are losing.

 

[westwall]

You really think that even the mullahs want the 72 virgins so badly that they'd risk the annihilation of their people?

Yeah, that IS the goal of Islamists everywhere. That's what makes them so dangerous. They ARE religious fanatics.

 

[Oddball]

I would also add that these MAGA warmongers advocating for US intervention fail to comprehend is that they think our actions will happen in a vacuum and will only effect Iran.

It will not.

Like the Iraq War destabilized the whole region and begot ISIS our involvement wil also destabilize the entire region.

What if the Pakistani government gets destabilized?

I wonder what this MAGA idiots will say when the government of Pakistan gets overthrown and replaced by Islamic fundamentalist because we created the right environment for it?

They have 90 nuclear bombs.

But MAGAs can’t see past the here and now much less an hour from now.

Gee, where were you brilliant ******* geopolitical geniuses when Bathhouse Barry threw all his support behind the "Arab Spring" in general, and the toppling of Qaddafi and Assad in particular?

Y'all were out in the tall grass, that's where.

 

[JWBooth]

Which is kinda their goal. 72 virgins and all that.

Given what has happened in the last two weeks, it would seem that they have been handed all the reason they need to build a bomb. Folks with deliverable devices don’t get attacked.

 

[task0778]

You really think that even the mullahs want the 72 virgins so badly that they'd risk the annihilation of their people?

Yeah, I kinda do. They have shown no consideration thus far for their people, have they? Think of the glory if they can detonate a nuke in Tel Aviv and kill a million Jews. Allah will surely be pleased.

 

[1srelluc]

I fuckin' hate podcasts....How many multi-millionaires (mostly they are dicks) have been produced due to people not being capable of finding out their own info..

 

[wtb]

Following up on this, because this is very important news.

There are multiple sources reporting this now. Here is another source, thinking it's 6 of them on their way.

B-2 stealth bombers appear to be on the move hours before Trump expected at White House

Six B-2 stealth bombers appear to be heading toward Guam as President Donald Trump contemplates getting the U.S. involved in the escalating conflict between Iran and Israel.

www.foxnews.com

 

[westwall]

Given what has happened in the last two weeks, it would seem that they have been handed all the reason the need to build a bomb. Folks with deliverable devices don’t get attacked.

The only reason for enrichment is to build a bomb. Those who have them already have them purely for defensive uses.

The mullahs want the bomb to USE it.

The only question is on who.

 

[Oddball]

Yeah, that IS the goal of Islamists everywhere. That's what makes them so dangerous. They ARE religious fanatics.

Right...But the people "leading" them aren't the suicidal maniacs that the foot soldiers are programmed to be.

Did the emperor of Japan commit seppuku like the Generals were expected to, when the Missouri came to town?

 

[Invisibleflash]

I support using US military bombing Iran nuke site

But what if the bunker buster bomb fails to dtop Iran from building atomic warheads and achieving nuclear capability?

Even if we destroy their nuclear reactor are they far enough along already to assemble one or more nuclear warheads?

Stop swallowing the jizzum, bub. We first have to find WMD in Iraq.

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[westwall]

Right...But the people "leading" them aren't the suicidal maniacs that the foot soldiers are.

Did the emperor of Japan commit seppuku like the Generals were expected to, when the Missouri came to town?

Generally that is true. However, at 86 he doesn't have much time left anyway. So, he gets to live a full life, and attain martyrdom at the end.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

If I am in Iran, I don't like being told what I can and cannot have. Especially when others have it.

But that is the nature of living in a global community.

People are not going to respect what I don't like when my leaders are whack-jobs

do not go to Iran. Problem solved

 

[Oddball]

Generally that is true. However, at 86 he doesn't have much time left anyway. So, he gets to live a full life, and attain martyrdom at the end.

That's mind reading...Not an argument.

History is a far batter barometer...Past is prologue.