Give it up asshole i already destroyed your bollocks about Georgia they started that conflict when they attacked South Ossetia on the 7th August 2008 killing Russian peacekeepers and civilians, that was before the Russians went in, and Ukraine started the war in 2014 when there was a coup and they attacked Donbass killing civilians who were there own Citizens at the time a full 8 years before the Russians took action, if Ukraine had been a member of Nato and started murdering people in Donbass the Russians would still have gone in, trust me, so shove NATO up your arse.