What I'd like to see Re: Ukraine/Russia

[Mac-7]

It's funny how Westerners can use the word “free” with any noun, even, for example, Nazi, and not feel any imbalance. Centuries of experience!

Sorry, Ringo, I dont follow what you are trying to say

 

[Zavulon]

What lies about false threats will the Russians tell us when they invade the free Baltic states of estonia latvia lithuania?

No lies. Only truth. Those are neo-Nazi regimes who discriminate and abuse Russian population. Plus, of course, NATO forces there are threat to be rolled back or eliminated.

Ukraine was never a threat to russia and neither is NATO

Plain lie.

 

[Mac-7]

Of course it is a plain lie. NATO is just a temporary union of countries and NATO countries commit aggressions against Russia at least twice a century since time of Northern Crusades. NATO alliance is basically anti-Russian alliance by its nature. And NATO alliance commited illegal and unprovoked aggression against Serbia. And right now NATO support genocide of Russians in former Ukraine. Actually, they are even participating in it.


Only paranoids survive. We just killed at least two million people because of our "paranoia", do you hope that we'll hesitate before killing twenty or two hundred million (or even two billion) more?

Switzerland is surrounded by NATO yet it doesent feel the least bit threatened

There is something wrong with Russia not NATO

 

[Zavulon]

Switzerland is surrounded by NATO yet it doesent feel the least bit threatened

There is something wrong with Russia not NATO

We are not Switzerland. And yes, if you think that there is something wrong with Russia - you are a threat to be deterred or eliminated.

 

[Mac-7]

We are not Switzerland. And yes, if you think that there is something wrong with Russia - you are a threat to be deterred or eliminated.

Dont bite off more than you can chew

Except for their nukes Russia ua a paper tiger

 

[Ringo]

Except for their nukes Russia ua a paper tiger

Good enough.
That is why I am increasingly proud of my grandparents' generation, who, through persistent and hard work, were able to create nuclear weapons after the terrible, devastating war that came from Europe.
And thanks to them, the perverts and scoundrels that the western population continues to elect as their rulers are afraid to openly take up arms against Russia.
This gives us hope that neither you nor I will ever see a nuclear apocalypse.

 

[SaxonJackson]

Ukraine and Europe know that Russia represents an imminent and existential threat, and they know that they (like every other country) can no longer trust or depend on the United States for, uh, anything. So here's what I'd like to see, in chronological order:

1. Ukraine finds a way to end the war that includes perhaps THE big issue, a guarantee they will not join NATO. Other details are up to them. It's their country.
2. Agreements are signed and the war ends.
3. Europe dissolves NATO, getting America out of the whole picture.
4. Europe establishes ETO, the European Treaty Organzation, and Ukraine joins it. Ukraine has not joined NATO, per the agreement.
5. Everyone gets on with their lives, and if Putin doesn't like it, tough shit.

Trump's push to end Ukraine war raises fears of 'ugly deal' for Europe

Not a bad idea. In the meantime, America can get back to fixing America; stop policing the world (we have to have morals before we can enforce morals); shed the Globalist ideology and agenda; stop funding the beggars of the world with American tax dollars; and make America First which could lead to making America great again.

 

[Zavulon]

Dont bite off more than you can chew

Except for their nukes Russia ua a paper tiger

But our nukes are quite good. Anyway, we don't demand anything exeptional. Just don't kill us, don't make significant preparations to kill us and don't try to take what is rightfully ours.

 

[Mac-7]

Good enough.
That is why I am increasingly proud of my grandparents' generation, who, through persistent and hard work, were able to create nuclear weapons after the terrible, devastating war that came from Europe.
And thanks to them, the perverts and scoundrels that the western population continues to elect as their rulers are afraid to openly take up arms against Russia.
This gives us hope that neither you nor I will ever see a nuclear apocalypse.

Perverts in the West?

I suppose so, but the russian dictators are even worse

 

[JoeB131]

Not a bad idea. In the meantime, America can get back to fixing America; stop policing the world (we have to have morals before we can enforce morals); shed the Globalist ideology and agenda; stop funding the beggars of the world with American tax dollars; and make America First which could lead to making America great again.

Okay, if you want a world dominated by China, that's the way to do it.

While we get stingy on aid and allow 600,000 people to die around the world, cutting USAID, the Chinese are going around the world building up goodwill through the Belt and Road Initiative.

 

[Ringo]

Perverts in the West?
I suppose so, but the russian dictators are even worse

Don't deceive yourself with false hopes, nothing could be worse than perverts in power. Not only do they embody political evil, they also have twisted minds. People who defy the laws of biology are capable of anything. They are evil, and evil rules the West.

 

[Ringo]

Don't deceive yourself with false hopes, nothing could be worse than perverts in power. Not only do they embody political evil, they also have twisted minds.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Gas prices are going down sharply

Or at least in red state

Suicidal states like california are the exception

And lower gas prices are very good for the economy

Staggering job losses and inflation.

Gas proces are down? Gas prices are often down during recessions. But Newsmax doesnt tell you that.

 

[Mac-7]

Staggering job losses and inflation.

Gas proces are down? Gas prices are often down during recessions. But Newsmax doesnt tell you that.

Well, ok

God only know which biased leftwing rags that do your thinking for you

I dont believe we are in a recession

And your hoping for a bad economy wont make it so

 

[JoeB131]

Well, ok

God only know which biased leftwing rags that do your thinking for you

I dont believe we are in a recession

And your hoping for a bad economy wont make it so

It depends on how you define a recession.

The official definition is two consecutive quarters of GDP Shrinkage.

We don't know what the figures are for Q3 because the shutdown means Trump can hide economic data.

But leave that aside for the moment, the real measure would be to paraphrase Reagan

"It's a recession when your neighbor loses his job, it's a depression when you lose your job, and it's a recovery when Mr. Trump loses his job."

Lots of our neighbors are losing their jobs right now. This is a fact. 2025 has seen the highest number of layoffs since 2020.

 

[Mac-7]

It depends on how you define a recession.

The official definition is two consecutive quarters of GDP Shrinkage.

We don't know what the figures are for Q3 because the shutdown means Trump can hide economic data.

But leave that aside for the moment, the real measure would be to paraphrase Reagan

"It's a recession when your neighbor loses his job, it's a depression when you lose your job, and it's a recovery when Mr. Trump loses his job."

Lots of our neighbors are losing their jobs right now. This is a fact. 2025 has seen the highest number of layoffs since 2020.

I suspect you dont know a single person who has bern lsid off

But is the popular lib lie of the day

 

[JoeB131]

I suspect you dont know a single person who has bern lsid off

But is the popular lib lie of the day

Oh, quite the contrary, I know of four who were laid off from the last company I worked for.

Not to mention, I run a resume business. So many of clients are "recently laid off" compared to "Looking for a better job."

 

[Ringo]

After hundreds of thousands of deaths, Biden's top official Amanda Sloat admitted that Ukraine's declaration of neutrality or acceptance of the Istanbul Agreement in 2022 “would have prevented destruction and death.”

The road of capitalism leads to the idiocy of all aspects of life. It leads straight to nuclear hell.

 

[Zavulon]

After hundreds of thousands of deaths, Biden's top official Amanda Sloat admitted that Ukraine's declaration of neutrality or acceptance of the Istanbul Agreement in 2022 “would have prevented destruction and death.”

The road of capitalism leads to the idiocy of all aspects of life. It leads straight to nuclear hell.

As if socialism or feudalism makes people smarter. Sometimes socialism makes people more educated, but usually humans are humans.
And no, the West couldn't really expect "strategic defeat" of Russia (may be, it was a wild hope, hardly more). They just invested some money to kill some random Russians (including Ukrainians). Now beneficiars will try to hide and use stolen money and ordinary western people will pay for it (one way, or another). Everything as usual.

 

[Ringo]

As if socialism or feudalism makes people smarter. Sometimes socialism makes people more educated, but usually humans are humans.

A person's living conditions influence them. It's one thing to grow up in freedom, but quite another to grow up in prison. Who is more likely to become a career criminal?