montelatici, et al,
Hummm, this is not the same line of thought; but, I'll respond anyway.
Facts are facts. Israel has millions of people corralled into two small areas and controls their land, borders (directly or by proxy), territorial sea and air space.
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Both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank have common borders with other member nations of the Arab League
(Egypt and Jordan --- respectively).
From an Israeli standpoint, and under the mutual recognition of the borders, Israel maintains the demarcation between Gaza and the West Bank as generally agreed upon in the Oslo Accords.
On a regular basis Israel kills thousands of their civilians, for the most part women and children. Many of them had their ancestors evicted from their homes because of their religion (the Arab Jews also Palestinians were not evicted).
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In the context of recent engagements, the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) has take extraordinary steps, almost unprecedented in the history of Middle East warfare; and in some cases globally. How a nation responds when attacked by another hostile nation is a matter for executive decision
(beyond my pay grade and outside the my criticism of their self defense measures). The Israel has to look at the entire threat and historic past in Palestinian behavior and determine their course of action. It is their country, their blood, their decision. There is nothing in the UN Charter that limits or restricts the inherent right of Israel to defense against an armed attack from a non-member observer State (Palestine) in the United Nations.
The inadvertent and unintentional deaths do to combat engagements initiated by the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) is very unfortunate but a very real aspect of cost (in human life) when the decision to engage in an act of war is contemplated. Between January and August 2014, the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) launched over 4000 rockets or mortars into Israel Sovereign territory. A top Hamas official (Saleh al-Arouri) said members of his militant group (Qassam Brigades) kidnapped three Israeli teenagers whose deaths in June provoked a spiral of violence that led to the war in Gaza, the first acknowledgement of the movement's involvement. Several dozen infiltration tunnels from Gaza, crossing the demarcation line into Israel have been discovered. AND, even now:
[URL='http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/02/05/gaza-terrorist-groups-rebuilding-militaries-training-recruits-for-war/' said:
Gaza Terrorist Groups Rebuilding Militaries, Training Recruits for War[/URL]]
Hamas and other Gaza-based terrorist organizations are intensifying efforts to rebuild military capabilities damaged during last summer’s war with Israel, the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center
reports. In light of ongoing delays in civilian reconstruction, Hamas is clearly prioritizing re-arming its terrorist forces over its population’s well-being.
SOURCE: The Algemeiner 5 FEB 2015
And, you believe that their seeking freedom is a negative "way of thinking"?
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No. I did not say that. I don't believe that the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) is really a "freedom fighting group." I believe that they are radical insurgents that engages in violent acts intended to create fear (
terror), perpetrated for a religious, political, or ideological goal.
Palestinians had nothing to do with Charlie Hebdo or the Satanic Verses.
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It is the connect of intimidation. The Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) may not have had a hand in these attacks, but they are connect ideologically.
The fact the the young Muslims in Europe use the treatment of the Palestinians, by the Israelis supported by the West as a rallying cry, is just a fact.
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The mantra is "Jihad" and the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) is nothing more than an opportunistic sounding board that engages in all forms of propaganda, which is either designed or likely to provoke, encourage, incite and threaten the peace, or act of terror or aggression.
The Arab Palestinians agreed to abide by the Declaration of Principle for Friendly Nations, in that:
The State of Palestine would accept the duty to refrain from the use of force to violate the existing international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, of Israel as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.
The State of Palestine would accept the duty to refrain from organizing or encouraging the organization of irregular forces or armed bands including mercenaries, for incursion into the territory of Israel.
The State of Palestine would seek early and just settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements or other peaceful means of their choice. In seeking such a settlement the parties shall agree upon such peaceful means as may be appropriate to the circumstances and nature of the dispute.
The State of Palestine agreed not to organize, assist, foment, finance, incite or tolerate subversive, terrorist or armed activities directed towards the violent overthrow of the regime of Israel.
When the Unity Government for the State of Palestine publicly proclaims this as policy, then maybe the Arab Palestinian will be viewed in a different light.
The whole I/P problem stems from the fact that the West, misguidedly believed that it was perfectly ok to settle Jewish Europeans in Palestine. There would be no I/P conflict between Jews and non-Jews in Palestine had the European Jews remained in Europe.
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That was not the decision that the Allied Powers came to in 1920.
Most Respectfully,
R