A new turn in Iran begging for destruction

[WEATHER53]

Israel is committing genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza and on the West Bank.

Israel is currently invading and occupying Lebanon and Syria, displacing over one million civilians

Israel is the source of terror across West Asia, not Iran.

When the US ends its support for Israel, the terror subsides.

Iran not Israel is the topic man boobs

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump didn't have to divide Iran, it's been bad for...decades now.
Majority of Iran are Christian and Zoroastrian but the government are shia muslim lunatics.
The government is less than 20% of Iran.

Where did you get that bullshit? Iran is 98% Muslim!

Iran is predominantly Muslim, with Shia Islam comprising roughly 90–92% of the population, Sunni Islam about 8–10%, and all other religions together under 1–2%

What Is Iran's Religion And What Are The Religious Dem...

Executive summary Iran is overwhelmingly Muslim, dominated by Twelver Shiʿa Islam; most mainstream demographic sources estimate roughly 90–92% of the pop...

factually.co

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Stann]

Iran always lies.

trump always lies. Iran did not start enriching uranium past the agreed level until trump pulled the US out of the agreement. They obviously knew there would be more trouble headed their way from trump. And they were right.

 

[Concerned American]

It must be anticipated that there are extremist forces in Iran that don't want the war to end. It's up to the Iranians to root them out.

It was a military coup that started all of this 47 years ago--nothing new.

 

[Concerned American]

trump always lies. Iran did not start enriching uranium past the agreed level until trump pulled the US out of the agreement. They obviously knew there would be more trouble headed their way from trump. And they were right.

You are WRONG again S(A)tann. The Iranians refused to allow the AERB to inspect their facilities during the Obama admin. Either educate yourself or quit lying.

Iran rejected inspections of military sites and interviews with nuclear scientists during the Obama administration. This refusal was part of their broader stance against foreign oversight of their nuclear program.
belfercenter.org aipac.org

 

[Woodznutz]

Do you see Israel's current invasions and occupations of Lebanon and Syria as defensive in nature?

Israel has been engaged in expanding its "borders" from the time it became a state in 1948.

Of course they're interested in a "Greater Israel" but aren't likely to nuke their way towards it.

 

[WEATHER53]

trump always lies. Iran did not start enriching uranium past the agreed level until trump pulled the US out of the agreement. They obviously knew there would be more trouble headed their way from trump. And they were right.

Yeah dweebs with no rebuttal always fireback “you lie”

 

[j-mac]

No one could argue against the reasons of going against Iraq either, or that the people in control of Iraq at the time were good.... what are your thoughts on the Iraq war?

You think that Iran wishes to dominate the world?

Can't we start a lot of wars based on your viewpoint?

What are your thoughts on the fact the you Trumpers literally ran on the concept of 'No new wars'?

Thanks for the questions Rod..

1. Iraq war - That’s really a two part question…Part one involves how we got into Iraq. That was 25 years ago. A full generation ago. We had just been attacked, and Saddam Hussein was brutalizing his own people. And Hussein was behind an attempt on a then former Presidents life. We didn’t have the technology, or the capability we have today. Plus, we were told that in that case there was a nuke component as well, and they were concurring a neighbor country. So, we went in, and at the time, I supported the mission. As the war dragged on, and we were mired in the mess of it all, Iraq moved its nuclear material out of the country to Syria, we found nothing, Hussein was ousted, and killed, and the country was left as a training ground for Iranian proxyed terror groups like ISIS, along with the failure of national building that the people didn’t want. It was a good thing for Trump first term to pull us out.

2. I think Iran is run by theocrats, that follow a sect of Islam that are suicidal in their quest to dominate the world through conquest, and vanquish in order to bring the rest of the world to Islam through war and terror. And that they clearly were developing nukes in that quest. Iran can never be allowed to obtain that capability.

3. We could. But, it’s a matter of the nukes. Trump is, and has been masterful in taking that threat out in many ways, without troops on the ground, and without starting any folly of national building. He’s softening up the regime so that the people of Iran have a chance to determine their own fate.

4. Sometimes in life we are forced into doing things that while distasteful, bring about the security for lasting peace. So, as long as this mission stays limited to that, and not a protracted conflict where we send our blood? I wish success, then he can get back to fixing the mess here.

I hope that answers some of your questions…

 

[georgephillip]

And lib loons declaring we must not respond.
So now their own military says their own government is WRONG and the Straits are Not open and they have attacked ships. Trump knew some clown move would occur and that’s why he kept forces there. Looks like some form of military coup may be underway in Iran

Trump's ignorance, arrogance, and incompetence has produced an outcome everyone who studied Iranian military potential in the Persian Gulf knew would happen:

The Consequences of Incompetence

"It wasn’t that the politicians and military planners in the US and Israel doubted Iran’s ability to impact global energy markets or strike targets in Israel and the Gulf region.

"They knew Iran had the potential.

"They just believed that they would be able to achieve regime change in Tehran in relatively short order, thereby mooting any threat Iran might pose to energy supplies and infrastructure.

"They were wrong, which is why the US was looking for an offramp from the war soon after it started."

Why did Trump do this?

 

[WEATHER53]

Trump's ignorance, arrogance, and incompetence has produced an outcome everyone who studied Iranian military potential in the Persian Gulf knew would happen:

The Consequences of Incompetence

"It wasn’t that the politicians and military planners in the US and Israel doubted Iran’s ability to impact global energy markets or strike targets in Israel and the Gulf region.

"They knew Iran had the potential.

"They just believed that they would be able to achieve regime change in Tehran in relatively short order, thereby mooting any threat Iran might pose to energy supplies and infrastructure.

"They were wrong, which is why the US was looking for an offramp from the war soon after it started."

Why did Trump do this?

Prepackaged lib loon deflections are fake

 

[georgephillip]

Prepackaged lib loon deflections are fake

Reality is hard for you, isn't it?

The Consequences of Incompetence

"For nearly 40 days, Israel and the United States carried out an extensive aerial campaign against Iran designed to topple the government and suppress Iran’s ability to defend itself.

"This campaign failed to achieve any of its stated objectives.

"Instead, it devolved into a numbers game where inflated outcomes were sold to an unquestioning public by military professionals and politicians alike.

"The Iranian government not only withstood the efforts at decapitation-induced regime change, but actually strengthened its hold on power when the people of Iran, instead of turning on the Islamic Republic, rallied to its cause."

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

^^^^ Another low IQ leftard who of course sees everyone else the idiot all while saying the dumbest things.

At least you're consistent.

Yellow Yalies Yell, and Hollow Fools Follow

Dumbo Dubya was a Right-tard. For rhetorical convenience and confirmation bias, the squirrels on the other side of the aisle equate Trump with war-munching Bush.

 

[WEATHER53]

The are aggressively instigating a Smackdown. Let’s do it for them and save millions and millions of lives while losing 5-10,000 and save that nation And the planet from this 15th century scourge

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

It seems like a military coup is becoming more of a possibility.

À la El-Sisi

As in Egypt, where the military, which didn't want to get slaughtered in another war with Israel, overthrew the Moslem Brotherhood government.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Iran not Israel is the topic man boobs

"I See London
I See France
I See Tel Aviv's
Underpants"

Using the same tinted glasses, the Adolphins would have to blame THE JEWS!!! for dragging us into World War II for nothing but their own selfish reasons.

"And the Zionists were behind the Holocaust, sacrificing millions of their own people just to get sympathy for the establishment of Israel!!!"

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Our unnecessary war on Iran has unified the Iranian people. They don't like their mullahs, but they dislike us even more. The fat lady is a long way from singing.

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We all know that the many, MANY videos of the good Persian people dancing to "YMCA" and thanking President Trump are not where you have been getting the information that you use to form your opinions.






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[RedrickTheCoat]

Thanks for the questions Rod..

1. Iraq war - That’s really a two part question…Part one involves how we got into Iraq. That was 25 years ago. A full generation ago. We had just been attacked, and Saddam Hussein was brutalizing his own people. And Hussein was behind an attempt on a then former Presidents life. We didn’t have the technology, or the capability we have today. Plus, we were told that in that case there was a nuke component as well, and they were concurring a neighbor country. So, we went in, and at the time, I supported the mission. As the war dragged on, and we were mired in the mess of it all, , Hussein was ousted, and killed, and the country was left as a training ground for Iranian proxyed terror groups like ISIS, along with the failure of national building that the people didn’t want. It was a good thing for Trump first term to pull us out.

2. I think Iran is run by theocrats, that follow a sect of Islam that are suicidal in their quest to dominate the world through conquest, and vanquish in order to bring the rest of the world to Islam through war and terror. And that they clearly were developing nukes in that quest. Iran can never be allowed to obtain that capability.

3. We could. But, it’s a matter of the nukes. Trump is, and has been masterful in taking that threat out in many ways, without troops on the ground, and without starting any folly of national building. He’s softening up the regime so that the people of Iran have a chance to determine their own fate.

4. Sometimes in life we are forced into doing things that while distasteful, bring about the security for lasting peace. So, as long as this mission stays limited to that, and not a protracted conflict where we send our blood? I wish success, then he can get back to fixing the mess here.

I hope that answers some of your questions…

1. Right, but don't most people think now think it was a mistake to go to war based on the misconception of 'weapons of mass destruction'? DIdn't you Republicans all think that too until your god emperor led you into another war? You had just being attacked by who? Who had you just been attacked by?

Iraq moved its nuclear material out of the country to Syria, we found nothing is this what the average person in the US thinks? Is this what the average republican voter thinks?

But hey, I guess the US military not even taking the time to check on google maps if what they are bombing is a children's school is too much to ask for? Wipe your hands clean again because you don't have the techology to double check your targets on google maps?

2. Then what do you think about Trump pulling out of the JCPOA? Trump literally caused this situation. He pulled out of it for what reason? That they weren't following it? But then, if you don't believe we actually knew what capabilities they had back when the JCPOA was in place, and we had greater monitoring capablities, then why do you believe it now? Why do you believe now that the they can monitor enrichment levels, but then you don't believe that enrichment levels were much lower than that before Turmp pulled out of the JCPOA? Or do you acknowledge that Trump caused this situation in the first place by pulling out of the JCPOA? So republicans simultaneously believe that Iran was able to hide nuclear progress when we had the JCPOA in place, but that we are also now able to detect progress when we don't have the additional access that JCPOA granted?

Let me give you the timeline: pre 2010: Iran enriching at low levels (approx 3.5%), 2010-2014: Enriches up to 20%. 2014-2018: Under hte interim deal and then JCPOA, rolled back to 3.67%, verified by IAEA. 2019: After Turmp pulled out, Iran starts creeping bcak up, first to 4.5%. January 2021: Jumps to 20%. April 2021: Jumps to 60%. Trump caused this shit, and you guys are silent about it.

Also, bombing them doesn't remove their knowledge.....that's one of the reasons why neogitating is the much better choice here. But Trump's dumbass instead decided to pull out and then fukcing sanction them? WTF? This guy claims to be a master negotiator. What is the plan then? If they have the knowledge, and it's easier for them to reach that than it is to stop them from reaching it, then why do what Trump did?

If you're deciding to do this through force? How far are you willing to go? They already have the knowledge of how to reach those percentage levels of uranium enrichment. What, do you think they can bomb that knowledge? No, so what, you want to commit genocide to stop them from reaching it?

3. Masterful? Or is he just lying to you all the time? What do you think of this article back in June of 2025 - Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Have Been Obliterated — and Suggestions Otherwise are Fake News
Does that make you the fake news? Or does it even make you consider, in the slightest sense, that if they were able to get even close to Nuclear weapons again in less than a year, that maybe you can't do this through force alone? And don't you think we should be a little cautious at using Nukes as a reason to start a war that will result in the deaths of many of that countries civilian population after the whole thing about Iraq being based on false claims? Your description of Trump is masterful? The guy is an idiot that put us into this situation in the first place. This is the same person that destroyed the longstanding relationship with the whole of Europe within a single year of his 2nd term? This is the guy you think is masterful?

4. But then why run on 'no new wars'? There's nothing different about the situation from before? The only thing different is that Trump pulled out of the Nuclear deal that was in place, and then after he pulled out, Iran's enrichment level went up.

It's like you conservatives refuse to believe that you guys were constantly talking about no new wars before Turmp was elected. You know there is a search feature on this forum where you can search terms like 'no new wars' before a certain date?

Bonus question: Why stop the aid to Ukraine?

 

[j-mac]

1. Right, but don't most people think now think it was a mistake to go to war based on the misconception of 'weapons of mass destruction'? DIdn't you Republicans all think that too until your god emperor led you into another war? You had just being attacked by who? Who had you just been attacked by?

Iraq moved its nuclear material out of the country to Syria, we found nothing is this what the average person in the US thinks? Is this what the average republican voter thinks?

But hey, I guess the US military not even taking the time to check on google maps if what they are bombing is a children's school is too much to ask for? Wipe your hands clean again because you don't have the techology to double check your targets on google maps?

No, I believe that people think that the mistake of Iraq and Afghanistan was trying to nation build into a Jeffersonian democracy...That was a total farce and a waste of money, and time.

As for the nuclear material, I never said anyone but myself held these notions....

Oh, denegrate the military. Because they must be perfect right? Our military in Iran, as well as Venezuella has been nothing short of spectacular...As for the supposed school, where were the funerals? Where were the mourning crowds with caskets raised in the air? I don't believe that any children were killed.

2. Then what do you think about Trump pulling out of the JCPOA? Trump literally caused this situation. He pulled out of it for what reason? That they weren't following it? But then, if you don't believe we actually knew what capabilities they had back when the JCPOA was in place, and we had greater monitoring capablities, then why do you believe it now? Why do you believe now that the they can monitor enrichment levels, but then you don't believe that enrichment levels were much lower than that before Turmp pulled out of the JCPOA? Or do you acknowledge that Trump caused this situation in the first place by pulling out of the JCPOA? So republicans simultaneously believe that Iran was able to hide nuclear progress when we had the JCPOA in place, but that we are also now able to detect progress when we don't have the additional access that JCPOA granted?

Let me give you the timeline: pre 2010: Iran enriching at low levels (approx 3.5%), 2010-2014: Enriches up to 20%. 2014-2018: Under hte interim deal and then JCPOA, rolled back to 3.67%, verified by IAEA. 2019: After Turmp pulled out, Iran starts creeping bcak up, first to 4.5%. January 2021: Jumps to 20%. April 2021: Jumps to 60%. Trump caused this shit, and you guys are silent about it.

Also, bombing them doesn't remove their knowledge.....that's one of the reasons why neogitating is the much better choice here. But Trump's dumbass instead decided to pull out and then fukcing sanction them? WTF? This guy claims to be a master negotiator. What is the plan then? If they have the knowledge, and it's easier for them to reach that than it is to stop them from reaching it, then why do what Trump did?

If you're deciding to do this through force? How far are you willing to go? They already have the knowledge of how to reach those percentage levels of uranium enrichment. What, do you think they can bomb that knowledge? No, so what, you want to commit genocide to stop them from reaching it?

That's a lot of tap dancing....Look, the JCPOA was absolute crap...Iranians lie, we know that, and they played games from the jump on that agreement, took the pallets of cash and funded even more enrichment, while running international inspectors in circles...And you people damned well know it...Force is the ONLY think these 7th century radicals know. And how far am I willing to go? Until the job is done....The question is, why are you willing to see Iran with a nuke, or 10?

3. Masterful? Or is he just lying to you all the time? What do you think of this article back in June of 2025 - Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Have Been Obliterated — and Suggestions Otherwise are Fake News
Does that make you the fake news? Or does it even make you consider, in the slightest sense, that if they were able to get even close to Nuclear weapons again in less than a year, that maybe you can't do this through force alone? And don't you think we should be a little cautious at using Nukes as a reason to start a war that will result in the deaths of many of that countries civilian population after the whole thing about Iraq being based on false claims? Your description of Trump is masterful? The guy is an idiot that put us into this situation in the first place. This is the same person that destroyed the longstanding relationship with the whole of Europe within a single year of his 2nd term? This is the guy you think is masterful?

The centerfuges were largely destroyed, or buried under tons of rubble. That's just a fact. But, Iran immediately started digging out, which meant that they were going to try and continue...They didn't learn.

4. But then why run on 'no new wars'? There's nothing different about the situation from before? The only thing different is that Trump pulled out of the Nuclear deal that was in place, and then after he pulled out, Iran's enrichment level went up.

It's like you conservatives refuse to believe that you guys were constantly talking about no new wars before Turmp was elected. You know there is a search feature on this forum where you can search terms like 'no new wars' before a certain date?

Another twisting of fact....This "war" has been going on for 47 years. And we didn't start it.

Bonus question: Why stop the aid to Ukraine?

the NDAA includes $400 million in funding for the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) for new arms intended for Ukraine for 2026

What’s in the new US defense bill for Ukraine?

The NDAA includes the best legislative support from Congress that Ukraine has received all year. At the same time, it also underscores the dramatic reduction in overall US support for Ukraine during 2025, writes Doug Klain.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

So, the aid hasn't stopped...We just aren't going to give Billions anymore. Let Europe step it up....It's their war....