A new group of gun owners? Native American women…no one is coming to save you. Learn it, live it.

[2aguy]

But still ridiculously higher than it is for the rest of the G-7 which has the good sense to limit who can own a gun.

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The governments of those countries murdered more innocent people in 6 yeats than criminals murdering criminals in the U.S. with guns over our entire 247 year history

 

[JoeB131]

/---/ I'm sure that would make your day.

Quite the contrary, I wish that the Gun Industry didn't use fear to market a dangerous product to people who aren't trained to use them or really have a need for them.

 

[JoeB131]

The governments of those countries murdered more innocent people in 6 yeats than criminals murdering criminals in the U.S. with guns over our entire 247 year history

The UK, France, and Canada participated in the Holocaust? Who knew?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Quite the contrary, I wish that the Gun Industry didn't use fear to market a dangerous product to people who aren't trained to use them or really have a need for them.

/----/ I've never seen a gun ad using fear as a motivator.

 

[miketx]

Yes, more guns in a community plagued by poverty and alcoholism is definitely going to have a positive effect.

We've been over this.

A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

You mean he CLARIFIED between suicides and murders... but the numbers still suck.

Okay, a gun in the household is 39 times more likely to be used in a suicide than kill a bad guy and 4 times more likely to be used in a domestic homicide than kill a bad guy.

Doesn't really make it sound better.

Oh, wow, always fun to watch you spooge your NRA propaganda, bud.




He didn't soften the number, he clarified.

Once he took out suicides and accidents, you get to the 2.7 number.

The suicides and accidents still happened, that was the point.

So it is 43 times more likely a gun in the home will be used in a suicide, a domestic homicide or an accident than the VERY RARE cases where they kill bad guys.

Look, man, I know that the worst thing the gun fetishists want is for people to realize how dangerous a gun in the house is.

Okay, let's look at the murder rate of the US vs. other G-7 Countries.

Gun homicide rate in G7 countries 2019 | Statista

From 2013 to 2019, the United States had a gun homicide rate of 4.38 per 100,000 residents, the most out of any other G7 country.

www.statista.com

As they say in Latin, The thing Speaks for itself.

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Meet satan soon you lying son of a bitch.

 

[miketx]

The governments of those countries murdered more innocent people in 6 yeats than criminals murdering criminals in the U.S. with guns over our entire 247 year history

I doubt that lying bastard is even an American.

 

[2aguy]

The UK, France, and Canada participated in the Holocaust? Who knew?

France did. The U.K. had to be saved from the Holocaust by American guns, and Canada is protected by American guns...the rest of Europe with France murdered 15-20 million innocent human beings, over 1 million children at the direction of the German socialists.....after the populations were disarmed.

 

[Failzero]

It's a long ways from Native women to illegals having guns.

Not for 2A/RTKBA purists ( and what if they are Mestizo ?)

 

[martybegan]

We've been over this.

A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a household member than a bad guy.

My lord you quote that same debunked study over and over again, holding on like a golden retriever not giving up a ball.

 

[JoeB131]

France did.

Um, no, they were defeated despite spending billions on guns...... that was the point.

he rest of Europe with France murdered 15-20 million innocent human beings, over 1 million children at the direction of the German socialists.....after the populations were disarmed.

Except their populations weren't disarmed, just out classed.

Stanislaw - "Look, I've got a gun and I'm riding around on a horse."
Fritz - I've got a tank. Tank Beats Horse."

Guns wouldn't have stopped the war. Professional soldiers always best unorganized idiots with guns.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Yes, more guns in a community plagued by poverty and alcoholism is definitely going to have a positive effect.

Why should they need guns the Government will keep them safe, right ?

 

[2aguy]

Um, no, they were defeated despite spending billions on guns...... that was the point.


Except their populations weren't disarmed, just out classed.

Stanislaw - "Look, I've got a gun and I'm riding around on a horse."
Fritz - I've got a tank. Tank Beats Horse."

Guns wouldn't have stopped the war. Professional soldiers always best unorganized idiots with guns.

No......they took guns away from their people, and that made sure the Germans would invade...

Switzerland didn't disarm their people so occupation of that country would have been impossible.....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS

That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"

The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.

The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.

Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.

While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.
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[2aguy]

Um, no, they were defeated despite spending billions on guns...... that was the point.


Except their populations weren't disarmed, just out classed.

Stanislaw - "Look, I've got a gun and I'm riding around on a horse."
Fritz - I've got a tank. Tank Beats Horse."

Guns wouldn't have stopped the war. Professional soldiers always best unorganized idiots with guns.

Tell that to the taliban and north vietnamese, you dumb ass.

 

[JoeB131]

Why should they need guns the Government will keep them safe, right ?

Well, it would be easier to keep all of us safe if we didn't have so many guns out there.

No......they took guns away from their people, and that made sure the Germans would invade...

Switzerland didn't disarm their people so occupation of that country would have been impossible.....

Switzerland didn't get invaded because they were making too much money processes the loot the Nazis were taking from their victims. Not that Hitler was afraid of a bunch of old swiss guys with bolt-action rifles.

 

[JoeB131]

Tell that to the taliban and north vietnamese, you dumb ass.

Um, okay. In both cases, we just left because we realized the whole thing was silly.

Not that we were ever driven out.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well, it would be easier to keep all of us safe if we didn't have so many guns out there.



Switzerland didn't get invaded because they were making too much money processes the loot the Nazis were taking from their victims. Not that Hitler was afraid of a bunch of old swiss guys with bolt-action rifles.

/——-/ “Well, it would be easier to keep all of us safe if we didn't have so many guns out there”
Well, it would be easier to keep all of us under their thumb if we didn't have so many guns out there. There, I fixed it for you.

 

[The Duke]

Not for 2A/RTKBA purists ( and what if they are Mestizo ?)

If they're Mestizo, why aren't they on their native land?

 

[JoeB131]

/——-/ “Well, it would be easier to keep all of us safe if we didn't have so many guns out there”
Well, it would be easier to keep all of us under their thumb if we didn't have so many guns out there. There, I fixed it for you.

Uh, guy, if the government wants you dead, they are pretty much just going to kill you. Just ask George Floyd. Or Tamir Rice. Or Laquan McDonald. Or Breonna Taylor.

Also, most of the 100 million people who supposedly "died" under communism died of starvation because of economic mismanagement. Not sure how a gun was going to fix that situation.

 

[2aguy]

Well, it would be easier to keep all of us safe if we didn't have so many guns out there.



Switzerland didn't get invaded because they were making too much money processes the loot the Nazis were taking from their victims. Not that Hitler was afraid of a bunch of old swiss guys with bolt-action rifles.

Hitler would have taken Sweden you dope........his military told him it wouldn't be possible to hold it....

 

[JoeB131]

Hitler would have taken Sweden you dope........his military told him it wouldn't be possible to hold it....

Are we talking about Sweden or Switzerland.

Hitler didn't take Sweden because the Swedes were happy to sell Germany Iron Ore and other materials to support their war effort.
The Swiss were spared because Swiss neutrality helped all sides.

The population of Switzerland was 4.2 million in 1940. Germany's population after the Anschluss was 70 million.
The reason why Switzerland wasn't invaded was because there was no tactical reason to after the fall of France. It was completely surrounded.