A message from a Mexican to The USA

[Deplorable Yankee]

Lol Freemarket libertarians for government social services cause all men are created equal pfft

Hez a leftard winding ya up gdjjr

 

[MaryL]

Well good for you. But the rest of us have had problems with illegal aliens, I kinda doubt that's an isolated occurrence. I live in Colorado, way far from the southern border and its a ginormous problem. People lose jobs and homes, the huge negative impact on our judicial system. Colorado is not a border state, it's hundred of miles from the any border. We didn't ask for this, we didn't allow it to happen, it was forced on us.

Yes, good for me, and quite sanctimonious for you. Congratulations- what you are living are the results of sanctimony believing in itself- people have always lost jobs and homes at which time they adapt and move on or they don't. Matter of fact, Manifest Destiny ensured many lost their homes and their way of life to your hypocritical, self serving sanctimony. Maybe you should run for office.
As for your speaking for "the rest of us", can you provide the credentials that grants you that authority?

There's a lot here to unpack here. I wont bother, accept with the main point. I'm seeing local politicians (Democrats) that give sanctuary to illegal aliens with out the consent of the local populace, and to detriment of the underclass working poor Americans. And you want to make me the bad guy for noticing. That's the typical game liberals play. It's hard to take you liberals democrats seriously anymore.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Not an ounce of honesty and wrapped up in the flag

And please post some of these non partisan studies I would like links to every one or the ones ya got

I lthought the one from the general accounting office from a few years back was pretty spot on

You aren't paying anyone to be your push button monkey. I know of no GAO study; however the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office did a study wherein they made the conclusion that undocumented foreigners pay as much in taxes as they receive in benefits. It's going to be a waste of time to prove this point to you.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/110th-congress-2007-2008/reports/12-6-immigration.pdf

Instead of playing politics with you, I'm giving you your BEST arguments. In other words the above is YOUR best case scenario you can find and I'd like to quote something directly out of that study (the most favorable study done in that era that favors your position) :

"Most of the estimates found that even though unauthorized immigrants pay taxes and other fees to state and local jurisdictions, the resulting revenues offset only a portion of the costs incurred by those jurisdictions for providing services related to education, health care, and law enforcement. Although it is difficult to obtain precise estimates of the net impact of the unauthorized population on state and local budgets (see Box 1), that impact is most likely modest. "

This study is limited to what the foreigners pay in taxes versus what they receive in benefits. In the real world - IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, that only gives part of the picture. The impact to you and I is that wealth is generated in our favor because the foreigner is more productive and produces wealth that adds to your bottom line. I'll explain simple economics to you:

Bubba pulls up to your door and gives you an estimate to do a home repair for $7500. A Mexican guy drives up and says he'll do the job for $5000. Bubba gets an extra $2500 for the job and proceeds to spend his money on junk made in China, Japan, Korea, etc. Now, this gets a bit tricky, but let me simplify it for you:

You saved $2500 on the home repair, leading to your home being worth more for a smaller price. The $2500 you save means that, at a minimum* is adding to your net worth AND the bank that holds your mortgage got much richer. Banks can loan out FOUR dollars to every ONE they hold in assets. So, your $2500 in savings just became $10,000 that the bank can loan out for business expansion, home building, etc. At the end of the day, THAT is why employers hire foreign labor.

* I said at a minimum in order to make the numbers work to your favor. The reality is, according to my research:

"For those who remodel, the average payback in a home’s resale value is 56 percent of the cost of the remodel, but for those who replaced things like garage doors or windows, the payback is a much higher 75 percent. "

Here's how much your home remodel will pay you back

Here is the latest look at how much homeowners can recoup in home value from their renovation projects.

www.cnbc.com

So, I'm working the numbers to YOUR favor and not only did the bank have more money to loan out, your net worth increased substantially so that you have more money to spend later down the road. All you accomplish by overpaying to Bubba was to allow him to buy more garbage made in foreign countries. Maybe it's time you realize that Americans have to become more competitive. You need to figure out why we consume over 80 percent of the world's opioid supply, have more people in prisons than any other country on this planet, are the drug capital of the world and have half our citizenry dependent upon government for at least some portion of their livelihood. They are not going to get the jobs when foreigners are more dependable workers and produce more per hour than their American counterparts.

You gotta be kidding me
What horseshit

You dont even realize you went from stating illegals dont really get benefits...well they don't really even make a dent , to I've read many studies ....I asked for more than one ,where are the rest of those non partisan studies? ...how many is the many that you've picked over ....give me more ...I want more now

And you need to go answer mexicano anon over at /pol and tell him you want all his neighbors back ...

Yes we all know they pay sales taxes and other fees and what not ...give me more studies that you claim to have read ...lets see those non partisan studies ...like you said thier were many

Or even just name them ...I would very much like to read them also along with the single one you posted


If you wanna lecture me about economics get back to me when you've actually made payroll for more than 10 guys and gals week after week after week after week...and dealt with crazy government regulation ...like being forced to put regular old license plates on forklifts ...really nypd harassed my guys loading a 40 footer on the street ...simply because my loading dock had other trucks on the docks and thier was no room ...they actually pulled over the forklift coming on and off the sidewalk onto the street ...wanna fuckin talk about the police I'll give yas an earful retards ...I even had an illegal from Ecuador at one time running a measure graph with a double and roll attachment ..I stole him from a competitor...14 an hour and this is the middle of the 90s ...he was they only one I ever hired who was illegal ...the white polock who was born here doing the same job on another machine got less ...no shit

You keep callin everyone who doesnt exactly want wide open borders "just like an authoritarian leftist would bigots and supporters of the police state ....you're dead in the water there son



I grew up around many a different foriegners from all over the planet .when I got older did business with many ....nyc and london are the only two cities on earth where more languages are spoken than anywhere else ....by far ..because of corona Elmhurst has been in the news a lot

Where are the most foreign languages spoken in the united states ?....Elmhurst..its more than 100 languages btw in fact it's more than 200 ...

Ive never been a fan of the police state or the heavy hand of government and government regulations but Why you keep calling everyone bigots ,"who might be scared of foreigners",simply because they wont subscribe to your well written illogical circle of gibberish is a simplistic leftist tactic

Another simplistic leftist talking point you also threw into it ...illegals are harder workers than spoiled drug addicted white natives ....****** please

And between the both of yas
The bill of rights does not apply to any of you outside the United States
Youre not equal

You bring it to the jungles of Colombia or the desert of saudi arabia then you have a valid point

Carry on fools

You sound like a spoiled child. I began asking questions first. AND I gave you the study you alluded to which was not all that earth quaking. You've provided no proof and answered no questions. As for the POLICE STATE. The people who supported the nutty wall idea and bitch about immigration were also Tea Party Republicans before they were Trump supporters. Let me see what they have done for the POLICE STATE:

1) Passed the Homeland (IN) Security bill that has cost nearly a TRILLION DOLLARS to date

2) The so - called "Patriot Act" is on you guys

3) The National ID / REAL ID Act was introduced by the same Tea Party Republican that introduced the so called "Patriot Act" BTW, the National ID / REAL ID Act relied on the Socialist Surveillance Number ...ooops "Social Security Number" as its unique identifier. Sooo... we got Orwellian Big Brother National ID AND you guys saved the 16th Amendment by giving the SSN a pretext to exist. The constitutionalists and patriots were winning the war against the unconstitutional 16th Amendment. My own U.S. Congressman introduced legislation to get rid of the 16th Amendment, the income tax and the IRS. AND IT HAD MAJOR TRACTION!!!! Thank you for setting us back 50 years and saving a plank out of the Communist Manifesto

4) E Verify - More surveillance and intrusions on the Fourth Amendment

5) The Constitution Free Zone

6) Warrant less search and seizures / profiling (the courts found these to be unconstitutional)

7) The end to the presumption of innocence / innocent until proven guilty

8) National gun registration through the National ID / REAL ID Act and E Verify

9) Militarized Police

10) Proposals that will eliminate sanctuary. FWIW Second Amendment sanctuary cities are popping up all over America in anticipation of unconstitutional gun laws requiring state and local LEOs to confiscate guns at the whim of a president or federal law.

In the 1970s through the early 2000s ALL of those programs were being opposed by the right wing, conservative, patriot, constitutionalists and Christian Patriot communities. You got conned and flipped by the left, taking up their agenda and being their bitch.

NOBODY IS CLAIMING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. YOU HAVEN'T TOLD ME WHAT IT IS. WHAT I'M CRITICIZING ARE YOUR SOLUTIONS. And yes, you ARE the representatives of the POLICE STATE. The people supporting Trump are supporting all the above whether wittingly or unwittingly. These talking points were liberal fodder when I was a kid learning the difference between being a Christian Patriot and a left wing NEW WORLD ORDER socialist. You sir, have taken up the banner of the socialists and it's one hand washing the other between the left and the right; conservative and liberal; Democrat and Republican.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

Amen!

Lol amen your idiot buddy there
How is defending illegals collecting benefits from state government burrecracies fit into the libertarian movement and belief systems

Many state social service programs at thier core are anti liberty..... rules and regulations apply to all who collect ...people are wards of the state in a way .even a set of guidelines on who gets what and what qualified a person to be eligible to collect

ya know the topic of the thread is mexicans went home because they lost thier jobs and couldnt collect corona cash ...a true libertarain would be calling for the abolishment of these institutions as easily as you're calling for non regualted wide open borders free from government .

Free market starve or eat on your own for all...come back n forth across the border on your own for all ...that would make much more logical sense then repeatedly calling everyone who doesnt agree a bigot

You guys are shot and living in dreamworld

One thing I despise is a LIAR. YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. We forfeited our Liberties and the Tea Party Republicans passed Orwellian laws (i.e. the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify) on the promise it was going to keep undocumented foreigners from getting welfare and freebies. And here YOUR LYING ASS is, misrepresenting my every post, wanting more and more POLICE STATE intervention. Now that you've moved the bar to "state" benefits, I live in Georgia and have no legal say so in at least 49 other states in this Union. I can tell you that undocumented foreigners here get very very limited benefits - usually those that could save you.

 

[MaryL]

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

Amen!

Lol amen your idiot buddy there
How is defending illegals collecting benefits from state government burrecracies fit into the libertarian movement and belief systems

Many state social service programs at thier core are anti liberty..... rules and regulations apply to all who collect ...people are wards of the state in a way .even a set of guidelines on who gets what and what qualified a person to be eligible to collect

ya know the topic of the thread is mexicans went home because they lost thier jobs and couldnt collect corona cash ...a true libertarain would be calling for the abolishment of these institutions as easily as you're calling for non regualted wide open borders free from government .

Free market starve or eat on your own for all...come back n forth across the border on your own for all ...that would make much more logical sense then repeatedly calling everyone who doesnt agree a bigot

You guys are shot and living in dreamworld

One thing I despise is a LIAR. YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. We forfeited our Liberties and the Tea Party Republicans passed Orwellian laws (i.e. the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify) on the promise it was going to keep undocumented foreigners from getting welfare and freebies. And here YOUR LYING ASS is, misrepresenting my every post, wanting more and more POLICE STATE intervention. Now that you've moved the bar to "state" benefits, I live in Georgia and have no legal say so in at least 49 other states in this Union. I can tell you that undocumented foreigners here get very very limited benefits - usually those that could save you.

I see undocumented aliens getting sanctuary without the consent of the local constituency. Now, I see 3 Mexicans in booth at the DMV clearly marked one person per booth (on cell phones which where also banned). And the newly passed Moter-Voter law...And the local politicians creating "sanctuary" for undocumented foreigners. Many of us are so disgusted with our so called state "governments". What can we do? Vote for Trump or something? What's the alternative?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Gdjjr

Tell me I'm not right over the target now

Believe it or not we're on the same page on a lot of things

The guys a well read idiot ,they're a dime a dozen amongst the left
And like I said the old ones are pros at wrapping themselves in the constitution and flag


A true free market libertarian and a founders purist would not be defending socials services for illegals or natives! or calling anyone a bigot for opposing any social services for illegals

No matter how many words they wrap it in the left wing talking points and tactics are always there ,,,

 

[Porter Rockwell]

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

Amen!

Lol amen your idiot buddy there
How is defending illegals collecting benefits from state government burrecracies fit into the libertarian movement and belief systems

Many state social service programs at thier core are anti liberty..... rules and regulations apply to all who collect ...people are wards of the state in a way .even a set of guidelines on who gets what and what qualified a person to be eligible to collect

ya know the topic of the thread is mexicans went home because they lost thier jobs and couldnt collect corona cash ...a true libertarain would be calling for the abolishment of these institutions as easily as you're calling for non regualted wide open borders free from government .

Free market starve or eat on your own for all...come back n forth across the border on your own for all ...that would make much more logical sense then repeatedly calling everyone who doesnt agree a bigot

You guys are shot and living in dreamworld

One thing I despise is a LIAR. YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. We forfeited our Liberties and the Tea Party Republicans passed Orwellian laws (i.e. the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify) on the promise it was going to keep undocumented foreigners from getting welfare and freebies. And here YOUR LYING ASS is, misrepresenting my every post, wanting more and more POLICE STATE intervention. Now that you've moved the bar to "state" benefits, I live in Georgia and have no legal say so in at least 49 other states in this Union. I can tell you that undocumented foreigners here get very very limited benefits - usually those that could save you.

I see undocumented aliens getting sanctuary without the consent of the local constituency. Now, I see 3 Mexicans in booth at the DMV clearly marked one person per booth (on cell phones which where also banned). And the newly passed Moter-Voter law...And the local politicians creating "sanctuary" for undocumented foreigners. Many of us are so disgusted with our so called state "governments". What can we do? Vote for Trump or something? What's the alternative?

Sanctuary was won by right wing conservatives. Sheriffs did not want to enforce unconstitutional gun laws. So, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the federal government cannot command state and local governments, forcing them to enforce federal laws. State and local governments that do not want to enforce federal immigration laws cannot be forced to do so. The short sighted thinking of the anti - liberty / POLICE STATE / MAGA supporters is to somehow overthrow sanctuary because of people they call "illegal aliens." IF those people prevail, gun owners would have NO recourse except to surrender to federal gun control laws even when their governor agrees that the feds actions may be unconstitutional. I could come up with a few more scenarios where having sanctuary is necessary. But, then this post would be TLDR.

Voting for Donald Trump does nothing to help you. Trump cannot over-rule the holding in the United States Supreme Court and if gun owners found out he made it possible for a legal federal gun confiscation scenario to take place, if Americans didn't rebel, then the ultimate POLICE STATE could not be refuted or dismissed. It would be official.

Unless and until those obsessed over the issue level with us, NOBODY can tell them what viable alternatives they may have. So, which bothers you? Are you upset because you think they violated some sacred law OR do you see immigration in general as being antithetical to our values?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

Amen!

Lol amen your idiot buddy there
How is defending illegals collecting benefits from state government burrecracies fit into the libertarian movement and belief systems

Many state social service programs at thier core are anti liberty..... rules and regulations apply to all who collect ...people are wards of the state in a way .even a set of guidelines on who gets what and what qualified a person to be eligible to collect

ya know the topic of the thread is mexicans went home because they lost thier jobs and couldnt collect corona cash ...a true libertarain would be calling for the abolishment of these institutions as easily as you're calling for non regualted wide open borders free from government .

Free market starve or eat on your own for all...come back n forth across the border on your own for all ...that would make much more logical sense then repeatedly calling everyone who doesnt agree a bigot

You guys are shot and living in dreamworld

One thing I despise is a LIAR. YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. We forfeited our Liberties and the Tea Party Republicans passed Orwellian laws (i.e. the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify) on the promise it was going to keep undocumented foreigners from getting welfare and freebies. And here YOUR LYING ASS is, misrepresenting my every post, wanting more and more POLICE STATE intervention. Now that you've moved the bar to "state" benefits, I live in Georgia and have no legal say so in at least 49 other states in this Union. I can tell you that undocumented foreigners here get very very limited benefits - usually those that could save you.

I see undocumented aliens getting sanctuary without the consent of the local constituency. Now, I see 3 Mexicans in booth at the DMV clearly marked one person per booth (on cell phones which where also banned). And the newly passed Moter-Voter law...And the local politicians creating "sanctuary" for undocumented foreigners. Many of us are so disgusted with our so called state "governments". What can we do? Vote for Trump or something? What's the alternative?

Sanctuary was won by right wing conservatives. Sheriffs did not want to enforce unconstitutional gun laws. So, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the federal government cannot command state and local governments, forcing them enforce federal laws. State and local governments that do not want to enforce federal immigration laws cannot be forced to do so. The short sighted thinking of the anti - liberty / POLICE STATE / MAGA supporters is to somehow overthrow sanctuary because of people they call "illegal aliens." IF those people prevail, gun owners would have NO recourse except to surrender to federal gun control laws even when their governor agrees that the feds actions may be unconstitutional. I could come up with a few more scenarios where having sanctuary is necessary. But, then this post would be TLDR.

Voting for Donald Trump does nothing to help you. Trump cannot over-rule the holding in the United States Supreme Court and if gun owners found out he made it possible for a legal federal gun confiscation scenario to take place, if Americans didn't rebel, then the ultimate POLICE STATE could not be refuted or dismissed. It would be official.

Unless and until those obsessed over the issue level with us, NOBODY can tell them what viable alternatives they may have. So, which bothers you? Are you upset because you think they violated some sacred law OR do you see immigration in general as being antithetical to our values?

Roflmao

Back on topic for you phony purist putz

Since youre so knowledgable at what time does she turn and become a net gain to the nation? When shes folding someone's laundry for 5 dollars an hour ?in Elmhurst lol at a laundromat? Or in your wife's purest founders vision of a laundry room Drop off service is big all over da 5 boroughs

You didnt even have to go into the laundromat ...theyll pick it up and drop it back off ...Ring..... you laundry ready you pick up we drop off lah lar....

You go into the laundromat guess who is folding your clothes? And collecting food stamps ,wic housing blah blah blah
I loved my underwear neatly folded and tied up in a ribbon

That's not an exaggeration....when does she become a net gain no matter how much I loved my clean underwear tied with a ribbon for 80 cents a lb ....thats a2016 price per lb
Dirt cheap

All men are created equal ......not when you're making under minimum wage and have to answer to a government burrecrats and dance thier dance for your supper

Tell me free marketeers when does she become a net gain? ...especially if she needs a ventilator ?
Flu like symptoms....oy

"
Woman gives birth standing with trousers on while detained at US-Mexico border


Justin Vallejo

,

The Independent•April 9, 2020


A woman suffering flu-like symptoms gave birth standing and fully clothed while detained near the Mexican-US border, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.

The Guatemalan woman, 27, was being processed at the Chula Vista Border Patrol Station near San Diego when her complaints of pain and pleas for help were allegedly ignored by agents, according to a complaint filed on Wednesday by the ACLU and Jewish Family Service of San Diego with the US Department of Homeland Security's Office of the Inspector General."

And below not for the purest of pure to answer ...your problem is when does she become a net gain ? Like you said they were...on topic ben phony franklin

No hello im having a baby like now....

oya poppy me in pain ....every idiot tries that whit law enforcement...law enforcement they all tell if I take ya to the hospital or infirmary ya have to come right back to where ever you where in the process

if youre waiting to be seen by a judge say it's a day or two wait ...you think youre slick me in pain ...me sick poppy...they hear it 600 times a day
You now spend 2 day in a hospital and now have to wait 2 more days in a cell waiting for a judge ..


Lol please

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Gdjjr

Tell me I'm not right over the target now

Believe it or not we're on the same page on a lot of things

The guys a well read idiot ,they're a dime a dozen amongst the left
And like I said the old ones are pros at wrapping themselves in the constitution and flag


A true free market libertarian and a founders purist would not be defending socials services for illegals or natives! or calling anyone a bigot for opposing any social services for illegals

No matter how many words they wrap it in the left wing talking points and tactics are always there ,,,

You're a freaking dirt bag liar. The fact is, I have voted in every election since I was 18. In the course of my years I was picked to be an elector in my district for Ronald Reagan, but declined. Reagan was anti - gun. In the years I've voted I cast ONE vote for a Democrat and it was for Public Service Commission, and then only because the incumbent had supported EVERY rate increase during his tenure in office. I don't even associate with Democrats nor leftists... not even in my own family.

Insofar as being a "well read idiot." I am a real life activist that has hands on experience. I don't have a damn clue as to what you think proves A or B, but every single thing I posted is the verifiable truth. I don't read this stuff you dumb ass, I LIVE IT. When others are pecking keyboards, I'm usually lobbying legislators, reading legislation, helping write it, or speaking to groups. I'm the only person on this board that ever faced the SPLC in a legal action and won. For that matter, I'm probably the only person here who was ever the subject of a lawsuit brought by the SPLC.

When challenged, you could not cite ANY source or even an example of the left doing or saying the things I say. That is because you think I'm well read and I realize that you are a moron that can't research the truth and find it with all the vast resources the Internet has to bear.

On many issues, the Christian Patriots, conservatives, right wing, patriots, constitutionalists, those professing Liberty have had to suffer total morons like you. You are a representative example why you could not name one, single, solitary, leader of the right in the 1970s - 2000 or any major accomplishments, but chose to make a personal attack against me. People like you are a danger to themselves and the cause of Liberty. On many fronts, the constitutionalists had the war won. Your side set us back 50 years. It's funny that you should project. The communists call you a useful idiot.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

"An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

Amen!

Lol amen your idiot buddy there
How is defending illegals collecting benefits from state government burrecracies fit into the libertarian movement and belief systems

Many state social service programs at thier core are anti liberty..... rules and regulations apply to all who collect ...people are wards of the state in a way .even a set of guidelines on who gets what and what qualified a person to be eligible to collect

ya know the topic of the thread is mexicans went home because they lost thier jobs and couldnt collect corona cash ...a true libertarain would be calling for the abolishment of these institutions as easily as you're calling for non regualted wide open borders free from government .

Free market starve or eat on your own for all...come back n forth across the border on your own for all ...that would make much more logical sense then repeatedly calling everyone who doesnt agree a bigot

You guys are shot and living in dreamworld

One thing I despise is a LIAR. YOU ARE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. We forfeited our Liberties and the Tea Party Republicans passed Orwellian laws (i.e. the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify) on the promise it was going to keep undocumented foreigners from getting welfare and freebies. And here YOUR LYING ASS is, misrepresenting my every post, wanting more and more POLICE STATE intervention. Now that you've moved the bar to "state" benefits, I live in Georgia and have no legal say so in at least 49 other states in this Union. I can tell you that undocumented foreigners here get very very limited benefits - usually those that could save you.

I see undocumented aliens getting sanctuary without the consent of the local constituency. Now, I see 3 Mexicans in booth at the DMV clearly marked one person per booth (on cell phones which where also banned). And the newly passed Moter-Voter law...And the local politicians creating "sanctuary" for undocumented foreigners. Many of us are so disgusted with our so called state "governments". What can we do? Vote for Trump or something? What's the alternative?

Sanctuary was won by right wing conservatives. Sheriffs did not want to enforce unconstitutional gun laws. So, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the federal government cannot command state and local governments, forcing them enforce federal laws. State and local governments that do not want to enforce federal immigration laws cannot be forced to do so. The short sighted thinking of the anti - liberty / POLICE STATE / MAGA supporters is to somehow overthrow sanctuary because of people they call "illegal aliens." IF those people prevail, gun owners would have NO recourse except to surrender to federal gun control laws even when their governor agrees that the feds actions may be unconstitutional. I could come up with a few more scenarios where having sanctuary is necessary. But, then this post would be TLDR.

Voting for Donald Trump does nothing to help you. Trump cannot over-rule the holding in the United States Supreme Court and if gun owners found out he made it possible for a legal federal gun confiscation scenario to take place, if Americans didn't rebel, then the ultimate POLICE STATE could not be refuted or dismissed. It would be official.

Unless and until those obsessed over the issue level with us, NOBODY can tell them what viable alternatives they may have. So, which bothers you? Are you upset because you think they violated some sacred law OR do you see immigration in general as being antithetical to our values?

Roflmao

Back on topic for you phony purist putz

Since youre so knowledgable at what time does she turn and become a net gain to the nation? When shes folding someone's laundry for 5 dollars an hour ?in Elmhurst lol at a laundromat? Or in your wife's purest founders vision of a laundry room
Drop off service is big all over da 5 boroughs

You didnt even have to go into the laundromat ...theyll pick it up and drop it back off ...Ring..... you laundry ready you pick up we drop off lah lar....

You go into the laundromat guess who is folding your clothes? And collecting food stamps ,wic housing blah blah blah
I loved my underwear neatly folded and tied up in a ribbon

That's not an exaggeration....when does she become a net gain no matter how much I loved my clean underwear tied with a ribbon for 80 cents a lb ....thats a2016 price per lb
Dirt cheap

All men are created equal ......not when you're making under minimum wage and have to answer to a government burrecrats and dance thier dance for your supper

Tell me free marketeers when does she become a net gain? ...especially if she needs a ventilator ?
Flu like symptoms....oy

"
Woman gives birth standing with trousers on while detained at US-Mexico border


Justin Vallejo

,

The Independent•April 9, 2020


A woman suffering flu-like symptoms gave birth standing and fully clothed while detained near the Mexican-US border, according to the American Civil Liberties Union.

The Guatemalan woman, 27, was being processed at the Chula Vista Border Patrol Station near San Diego when her complaints of pain and pleas for help were allegedly ignored by agents, according to a complaint filed on Wednesday by the ACLU and Jewish Family Service of San Diego with the US Department of Homeland Security's Office of the Inspector General."

And below not for the purest of pure to answer ...your problem is when does she become a net gain ? Like you said they were...on topic ben phony franklin

No hello im having a baby like now....

oya poppy me in pain ....every idiot tries that whit law enforcement...they all tell if I take ya to the hospital or infirmary ya have to come right back to where ever you where in the process

Like if youre waiting to be seen by a judge say it's a day or two wait ...you think your slick me in pain ...me sick poppy...they hear it 600 times a day
You now spend 2 day in a hospital and now have to wait 2 more days in a cell waiting for a judge ..


Lol please

That post was so incomprehensible that one would have to be on crack to understand it.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

You were waiting for me
Pathetic

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Gdjjr

Tell me I'm not right over the target now

Believe it or not we're on the same page on a lot of things

The guys a well read idiot ,they're a dime a dozen amongst the left
And like I said the old ones are pros at wrapping themselves in the constitution and flag


A true free market libertarian and a founders purist would not be defending socials services for illegals or natives! or calling anyone a bigot for opposing any social services for illegals

No matter how many words they wrap it in the left wing talking points and tactics are always there ,,,

You're a freaking dirt bag liar. The fact is, I have voted in every election since I was 18. In the course of my years I was picked to be an elector in my district for Ronald Reagan, but declined. Reagan was anti - gun. In the years I've voted I cast ONE vote for a Democrat and it was for Public Service Commission, and then only because the incumbent had supported EVERY rate increase during his tenure in office. I don't even associate with Democrats nor leftists... not even in my own family.

Insofar as being a "well read idiot." I am a real life activist that has hands on experience. I don't have a damn clue as to what you think proves A or B, but every single thing I posted is the verifiable truth. I don't read this stuff you dumb ass, I LIVE IT. When others are pecking keyboards, I'm usually lobbying legislators, reading legislation, helping write it, or speaking to groups. I'm the only person on this board that ever faced the SPLC in a legal action and won. For that matter, I'm probably the only person here who was ever the subject of a lawsuit brought by the SPLC.

When challenged, you could not cite ANY source or even an example of the left doing or saying the things I say. That is because you think I'm well read and I realize that you are a moron that can't research the truth and find it with all the vast resources the Internet has to bear.

On many issues, the Christian Patriots, conservatives, right wing, patriots, constitutionalists, those professing Liberty have had to suffer total morons like you. You are a representative example why you could not name one, single, solitary, leader of the right in the 1970s - 2000 or any major accomplishments, but chose to make a personal attack against me. People like you are a danger to themselves and the cause of Liberty. On many fronts, the constitutionalists had the war won. Your side set us back 50 years. It's funny that you should project. The communists call you a useful idiot.

You're an american hero and will be awarded the founders social services free market medal of honor

Jefferson and jesus smile down upon you

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You were waiting for me
Pathetic

Don't flatter yourself. Tv show went off. I check my e mail and go to bed.

 

[MaryL]

I go to an illegal alien Mexican areas and shops. They are NOT protecting themselves with masks. They think this is a joke.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I go to an illegal alien Mexican areas and shops. They are NOT protecting themselves with masks. They think this is a joke.

At last. Some good news.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

You were waiting for me
Pathetic

Don't flatter yourself. Tv show went off. I check my e mail and go to bed.

Goodnight Miguel Washington

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Gdjjr

Tell me I'm not right over the target now

Believe it or not we're on the same page on a lot of things

The guys a well read idiot ,they're a dime a dozen amongst the left
And like I said the old ones are pros at wrapping themselves in the constitution and flag


A true free market libertarian and a founders purist would not be defending socials services for illegals or natives! or calling anyone a bigot for opposing any social services for illegals

No matter how many words they wrap it in the left wing talking points and tactics are always there ,,,

You're a freaking dirt bag liar. The fact is, I have voted in every election since I was 18. In the course of my years I was picked to be an elector in my district for Ronald Reagan, but declined. Reagan was anti - gun. In the years I've voted I cast ONE vote for a Democrat and it was for Public Service Commission, and then only because the incumbent had supported EVERY rate increase during his tenure in office. I don't even associate with Democrats nor leftists... not even in my own family.

Insofar as being a "well read idiot." I am a real life activist that has hands on experience. I don't have a damn clue as to what you think proves A or B, but every single thing I posted is the verifiable truth. I don't read this stuff you dumb ass, I LIVE IT. When others are pecking keyboards, I'm usually lobbying legislators, reading legislation, helping write it, or speaking to groups. I'm the only person on this board that ever faced the SPLC in a legal action and won. For that matter, I'm probably the only person here who was ever the subject of a lawsuit brought by the SPLC.

When challenged, you could not cite ANY source or even an example of the left doing or saying the things I say. That is because you think I'm well read and I realize that you are a moron that can't research the truth and find it with all the vast resources the Internet has to bear.

On many issues, the Christian Patriots, conservatives, right wing, patriots, constitutionalists, those professing Liberty have had to suffer total morons like you. You are a representative example why you could not name one, single, solitary, leader of the right in the 1970s - 2000 or any major accomplishments, but chose to make a personal attack against me. People like you are a danger to themselves and the cause of Liberty. On many fronts, the constitutionalists had the war won. Your side set us back 50 years. It's funny that you should project. The communists call you a useful idiot.

You're an american hero and will be awarded the founders social services free market medal of honor

Jefferson and jesus smile down upon you

You're a smart ass that hasn't done anything with your life. You still could not show how anything I've posted is a left wing tactic... not one citing source. You are a LIAR

When challenged to prove the anti-liberty / POLICE STATE / MAGA supporters were behind the POLICE STATE, I provided TEN irrefutable examples. You are a LIAR

There is not one line, in any sentence I've posted that would lead a sensible and honest person to conclude that I'm on the left in any way, shape, fashion, or form. You have failed to show any such connection. And you're the one that appears to have the same mental problems as Joe Biden. So sling your insults. It's cowardly and something a real man would NEVER do over the Internet. You keyboard commandos are a dime a dozen and lying, chickenshit, cowards have never impressed me. FWIW, you probably rule the roost among them.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

You were waiting for me
Pathetic

Don't flatter yourself. Tv show went off. I check my e mail and go to bed.

Goodnight Miguel Washington

Screw you Pee Wee Herman.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I go to an illegal alien Mexican areas and shops. They are NOT protecting themselves with masks. They think this is a joke.

You should not be in a Mexican neighborhood shopping. The thread troll should be calling you out any minute on that one.

Don't shop there; don't go there; wear a mask and at the very least nitrile gloves when going out. Protect yourself. Don't give Uncle Scam any pretext to invoke Martial Law - which they are definitely looking for an opportunity for.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Yikes


I hit mute and I'm singing the Great american hero theme song in Spanish


To honor all the hard working free market libertarian social service paper pushers handing out net gain food stamps to illegal aliens .