74 school shootings in 77 weeks...Worth it's own thread.

[JoeB131]

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yet the number of attempted crimes prevented by an armed citizen is in the hundreds of thousands. that just proves your claim that a citizen with a gun will shoot up anything. see how "your" facts always come back to bite you in the ass?

Guy, if it was happening, I'd know of cases of it from personal experience or second hand story telling

I know of two suicides by gun.

I know of ZERO cases where someone chased off a bad guy with a gun. Zip. Zero. It just doesn't happen that often.

 

[JoeB131]

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of course no mention of how many times they stopped a crime. Once again Joe be with only one side of the story. his.

Because it almost never happens.

People are being killed here. But as long as you gun nuts feel a little better about your tiny peckers, you are just fine with that.

according to the study obama commisioned you would be wrong. see you are an uninformed low information voter

You can bring out all the bullshit studies you want and take things out of context.

Reality check- guns are rarely used to prevent crimes, and more often are the cause of them.

 

[JoeB131]

dude, you are the one who is so paranoid you feel you need to know the name and address of everyone who owns a gun

That's already a matter of public record.

All the paper did was make the record known.

so we can start publishing the names and addresses of every woman who has an abortion or is on the pill.

Um, no, those are covered by HIPPA.

Which actually IS a law.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Because it almost never happens.

People are being killed here. But as long as you gun nuts feel a little better about your tiny peckers, you are just fine with that.

according to the study obama commisioned you would be wrong. see you are an uninformed low information voter

You can bring out all the bullshit studies you want and take things out of context.

Reality check- guns are rarely used to prevent crimes, and more often are the cause of them.

Based on your bullshit studies.

 

[Meister]

according to the study obama commisioned you would be wrong. see you are an uninformed low information voter

You can bring out all the bullshit studies you want and take things out of context.

Reality check- guns are rarely used to prevent crimes, and more often are the cause of them.

Based on your bullshit studies.

Studies? No, not studies. It's because Joe says so.

He is just throwing his outlier agenda out there.

 

[Ernie S.]

Guy, the point is, the man could LEGALLY walk about with concealed guns. This is what you gun nuts always claim is the good, that the more guns we have out there, the more bad guys you can stop.

Well, no, it just makes it easier for the bad guys.

I can legally walk about with a pistol on my hip and in plain view. I choose not to most of the time because of the shrill screams of people like you.

If you are half as creepy in person as you are on line, there'd be screams if you had a gun or not.

Creepy is pretty subjective, Joe. I'm betting more people find you creepy.

 

[Contumacious]

Because it almost never happens.

People are being killed here. But as long as you gun nuts feel a little better about your tiny peckers, you are just fine with that.

according to the study obama commisioned you would be wrong. see you are an uninformed low information voter

You can bring out all the bullshit studies you want and take things out of context.

Reality check- guns are rarely used to prevent crimes, and more often are the cause of them.

Reality check: You NEVER use your brain when posting. So you are a good candidate for a lobotomy.

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[Ernie S.]

Wrong again Nut-Job. Armed Police Misjudge Situations. Armed citizens shoot 250% more criminals than police. Police kill 550% more innocent people than Armed Citizens.

Facts are not paranoia. I may or may-not be held at gunpoint again, but facts & my experience prove I am safer with legalized CCW.

BTW: Zimmerman was a Police Wannabe.

Where the fuck are you even getting these whacky numbers.

Okay - Number of homicides in the US. That would be innocent people being shot by gun owners- 11,000 a year.

Number of people killed by Police- most of them found to be justified - 607.

Number of criminals killed by armed citizens ruled to be justifiable- 201 according to the FBI.

yet the number of attempted crimes prevented by an armed citizen is in the hundreds of thousands. that just proves your claim that a citizen with a gun will shoot up anything. see how "your" facts always come back to bite you in the ass?

Wrong again, Joe. What it proves is that CCP holders use restraint as a rule, and don't shoot when they've shown themselves to be in a superior tactical position and the assailant withdraws. Probably in 90 to 95% of the instances where a person legally carrying a weapon is confronted by a would be criminal, he does not need to fire. The VAST majority of those cases are not reported to authorities.

 

[Ernie S.]

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yet the number of attempted crimes prevented by an armed citizen is in the hundreds of thousands. that just proves your claim that a citizen with a gun will shoot up anything. see how "your" facts always come back to bite you in the ass?

Guy, if it was happening, I'd know of cases of it from personal experience or second hand story telling

I know of two suicides by gun.

I know of ZERO cases where someone chased off a bad guy with a gun. Zip. Zero. It just doesn't happen that often.

Twice to me. It happens upwards of a million times/year, depending on who's date you choose to use.

 

[Ernie S.]

Because it almost never happens.

People are being killed here. But as long as you gun nuts feel a little better about your tiny peckers, you are just fine with that.

according to the study obama commisioned you would be wrong. see you are an uninformed low information voter

You can bring out all the bullshit studies you want and take things out of context.

Reality check- guns are rarely used to prevent crimes, and more often are the cause of them.

When are you going to trot out your oft destroyed study again, Joe?

 

[Ernie S.]

according to the study obama commisioned you would be wrong. see you are an uninformed low information voter

You can bring out all the bullshit studies you want and take things out of context.

Reality check- guns are rarely used to prevent crimes, and more often are the cause of them.

Reality check: You NEVER use your brain when posting. So you are a good candidate for a lobotomy.

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He WAS a good candidate for a lobotomy. What you see here is the result.

 

[JoeB131]

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Wrong again, Joe. What it proves is that CCP holders use restraint as a rule, and don't shoot when they've shown themselves to be in a superior tactical position and the assailant withdraws. Probably in 90 to 95% of the instances where a person legally carrying a weapon is confronted by a would be criminal, he does not need to fire. The VAST majority of those cases are not reported to authorities.

90-95% of those cases, some one used his penis compensator to threaten someone, and probably would have been charged with menacing if the authorities found out about it.

Here's the reality. According to the FBI a gun was only used in legitimate acts of self-defense homicide 201 times in 2010.

VPC - The Violence Policy Center - Concealed Carry Killers

14 Police officers have been killed by Concealed Carry killer.

662 private citizens have as well.

 

[KissMy]

90-95% of those cases, some one used his penis compensator to threaten someone, and probably would have been charged with menacing if the authorities found out about it.

Here's the reality. According to the FBI a gun was only used in legitimate acts of self-defense homicide 201 times in 2010.

VPC - The Violence Policy Center - Concealed Carry Killers

14 Police officers have been killed by Concealed Carry killer.

662 private citizens have as well.

You pulled your penis envy bullshit out of your ass.

Your CCW numbers are bullshit. Of the 662 citizens killed, there is only a 40% conviction rate.

There were only about 100 CCW shootings for 2010.

 

[JoeB131]

There's only a 40% conviction rate because 50% of the CCW murderers shoot themselves when they realize they are going to the big house without their penis compensator.

 

[freedombecki]

Now you are just kind of babbling.

It's not the "criminals" I'm worried about. The reality- most burglars break in when you are not home or on the few occasions they do, it was because they thought no one was home.

Which is why so many criminal guns start their lives as guns owned by "law abiding" citizens.

Giving free cell phones causes a lot of crimes, too. Giving criminals across the border free guns from the US Government results in the deaths of several Americans, two of whom were border crossing officers.

You mean as opposed to the millions of guns that cross the border every year that someone pays for? You guys are kind of flailing.

Project much?

We're tired of politicians who want to convert America to (1) Europe, (2) Sharia Law, (3) A Bill of Wrongs instead of Rights, (4) Spendthrifts, (5) Unarmed Big Government supporters to enslave a free and independent people, (6) Atheism through state religiosity.

What do millions of guns crossing the border have to do with 74 school shootings in the USA? Do the foreigners come back and shoot schoolchildren with them?

 

[freedombecki]

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I am against the abridgment of the Second Amendment, Joe, and I don't even own a gun because I'm too sensitive to noise. Even so, that Second Amendment was put there to prevent any kind of bad government from getting worse. Although sometimes I don't see how government could get any worse than it is at this moment with letting bad guys go free and killing off American vets through inferior health care for which the top cats running the VA all got big fat bonus checks last Christmas.

Even so, those messing with Amendment 2 should just let it be.

So let me get this straight, because Wingnut logic is kind of hard to follow.

The VA is overwealmed, and maybe 47 vets die* because they couldn't get in to see a doctor. OH MY GOD THIS IS THE WORST CRISIS EVER!!!!!

32,000 Americans die EVERY YEAR because someone sold a gun to someone who had no business having one. *. Ah, this isn't a problem at all.

While I think the person who wants to shoot a bad guy is a little sily, the Wingnut who wants guns because they lost an election is even sillier.

The government is not an amorphous mob of zombies. The government is a cop who stopped by for a slice of pizza and leaves behind six kids when the crazy person shoots him.

Funny, you never hear Left Wingers talking about needing guns when Bush STEALS an election, gets us into a war based on lies, tortures prisoners, and spies on Americans without a warrant. Nope. They actually talk about how to fix that at the next election and using the process.

But wingnuts. You all lose an election, and you start waving your guns around** talking smack about tyranny.

Okay, memo. IF the government ever got "so bad", the problem is, they have tanks, they have bombers. they have drones.

You've got your squirrel gun.**

The Founding Slave Rapists*** didn't think a mob was going to overthrow the government. They called for MILITIAS that would act under the color of law.

* Latest estimates are that over a thousand vets (and counting) died due to VA mismanagement.
** I reiterate that I don't own a gun.
*** DNA tests proved negative on Founders who allegedly had affairs with their slaves. DNA was run and proved the calumny a lie.
*According to the CDC, 11,078 deaths were related to firearms. Link

 

[JoeB131]

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I am against the abridgment of the Second Amendment, Joe, and I don't even own a gun because I'm too sensitive to noise. Even so, that Second Amendment was put there to prevent any kind of bad government from getting worse. Although sometimes I don't see how government could get any worse than it is at this moment with letting bad guys go free and killing off American vets through inferior health care for which the top cats running the VA all got big fat bonus checks last Christmas.

Even so, those messing with Amendment 2 should just let it be.

So let me get this straight, because Wingnut logic is kind of hard to follow.

The VA is overwealmed, and maybe 47 vets die* because they couldn't get in to see a doctor. OH MY GOD THIS IS THE WORST CRISIS EVER!!!!!

32,000 Americans die EVERY YEAR because someone sold a gun to someone who had no business having one. *. Ah, this isn't a problem at all.

While I think the person who wants to shoot a bad guy is a little sily, the Wingnut who wants guns because they lost an election is even sillier.

The government is not an amorphous mob of zombies. The government is a cop who stopped by for a slice of pizza and leaves behind six kids when the crazy person shoots him.

Funny, you never hear Left Wingers talking about needing guns when Bush STEALS an election, gets us into a war based on lies, tortures prisoners, and spies on Americans without a warrant. Nope. They actually talk about how to fix that at the next election and using the process.

But wingnuts. You all lose an election, and you start waving your guns around** talking smack about tyranny.

Okay, memo. IF the government ever got "so bad", the problem is, they have tanks, they have bombers. they have drones.

You've got your squirrel gun.**

The Founding Slave Rapists*** didn't think a mob was going to overthrow the government. They called for MILITIAS that would act under the color of law.

* Latest estimates are that over a thousand vets (and counting) died due to VA mismanagement.
** I reiterate that I don't own a gun.
*** DNA tests proved negative on Founders who allegedly had affairs with their slaves. DNA was run and proved the calumny a lie.
*According to the CDC, 11,078 deaths were related to firearms. Link

Wow, trying to argue numbers when you can't argue the point, eh.

1) Actually, case reviews don't even support the 47 died due to lack of care. It should also be pointed out that 96,000 patients die every year due to medical error in private hosptials.

Report tied previous VA cancer deaths to delayed care

Of course, what happened was still horrible. BUt it's hilarious to watch the same Repbulican pukes in Congress who voted to slash the VA budget during a war complain now that vets aren't getting proper care.

2) Doesn't matter if you personally own a gun. You go around talking smack about Sharia Law and the government trying to impose it.

3) In 2012, there were 19,766 gun suicides, 11,101 gun homicides and 851 gun accidents. Which is just fine with you clowns, apparently. Because we need our guns in case the gummit comes along and imposes Socialist Sharia law on us... or something.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states



4) DNA tests proved that Thomas Jefferson raped the shit out of Sally Hemmings.

Even the Monticello Museum admits as much.

Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: A Brief Account « Thomas Jefferson?s Monticello

Based on documentary, scientific, statistical, and oral history evidence, the Thomas Jefferson Foundation (TJF) Research Committee Report on Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings (January 2000) remains the most comprehensive analysis of this historical topic. Ten years later, TJF and most historians believe that, years after his wife’s death, Thomas Jefferson was the father of the six children of Sally Hemings mentioned in Jefferson's records, including Beverly, Harriet, Madison, and Eston Hemings.

 

[JoeB131]

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Project much?

We're tired of politicians who want to convert America to (1) Europe, (2) Sharia Law, (3) A Bill of Wrongs instead of Rights, (4) Spendthrifts, (5) Unarmed Big Government supporters to enslave a free and independent people, (6) Atheism through state religiosity.

What do millions of guns crossing the border have to do with 74 school shootings in the USA? Do the foreigners come back and shoot schoolchildren with them?

Yawn. and this is where you went into nut land.

Again, I'm not sure why you guys live in terror that we might become "Europe".

And apparently, we want to make you both Atheist AND Muslim. Wow. Who knew?

Now, for Spendthrifts.... Your boy Bush took 200 billion dollar surpluses and turned them into trillion dollar deficits. Mostly by giving an obscene tax cut to the rich and putting a major war on a credit card. I'm always amused (and depressed) when Republicans claim to be the party of fiscal responsibility. Oh, right. Laffer Curve.

Here's the thing. Europe is just as free as we are. Maybe freer in some respects, and their governments don't spy on them and they aren't as sexually repressed as we are in their media. They don't have guns and they get along just fine. They have a fraction of our murder rate, and don't feel the need to lock up 2% of their population.

 

[Spoonman]

Because it almost never happens.

People are being killed here. But as long as you gun nuts feel a little better about your tiny peckers, you are just fine with that.

according to the study obama commisioned you would be wrong. see you are an uninformed low information voter

You can bring out all the bullshit studies you want and take things out of context.

Reality check- guns are rarely used to prevent crimes, and more often are the cause of them.

your right joe, people are using their super ninja skills to fight off armed attackers.

Reality Check. Guns are used more to prevent crime than they are used to commit them.

 

[Contumacious]

Again, I'm not sure why you guys live in terror that we might become "Europe".

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Your posts scare the fuck out of us. When people are that stupid the bureaucrats tend to take advantage.

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