500,000 unemployed vets

[sealybobo]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

 

[sealybobo]

If you won't give him credit for the good why do you blame him for the bad?

Do you want the government to regulate that companies hire vets or are you a libertarian who says let the free market decide?

And I asked you. You don't have any real answers? Go back to sports.

I don't want government to dictate who anyone hires or fires. I hear from you liberals that this is Obama's recovery and then you blame republicans. Pretty low from a drug dealer, who works under the table and doesn't pay taxes on the earnings. Maybe you could donate to veterans instead of blaming others.

You're changing the subject and making this personal. Please don't talk to me again if you can't stop doing that. Sports too. Just fuck off you little bitch.

You obviously haven't answered any of my question you stupid fuck. My point is not that government should force corporations to hire anyone. If that's what you got out of what I wrote maybe you should go back to talking sports son.

You are the one that brought up that I should stick with sports, if you can't stick to the subject maybe you have drugs to deal and taxes to avoid...son. If you can't take it little boy don't dish it. Got it stupid fuck?

You should stick to sports. You suck at talking about that too but at least you stay in the lane you can handle.

And you should stick to your drug dealing and tax evasion because you suck on politics and every other subject. You started the insults and if you expect me to take it from you and not fight back you are wrong.

Have a good day.

Glad you at least admit the government is responsible for the poor and unemployed.

Now you admit it's Obama's fault so maybe you also would agree Bush's policies really fucked over the poor and middle class.

Or if you are like most conservatives its Obama's fault when its convenient for you but its the unemployed persons fault when Republicans are in charge.

I agree with you the government plays a role in poverty and unemployment. A pro people government encourages good American jobs a pro corporation government puts the tax burden more on the people and allows companies to manufacture abroad and import goods duty free.

Just ask trump. We have horrible trade deals that hurt American workers. Glad you're starting to understand the importance of government. Glad I could help and I didn't need to use a sports metaphor to do it

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

Really?...explain this...

1) The top 7% wage earners under Obama have lavished in a historic 33% earnings INCREASE. While the remaining 93% of WORKING Americans have suffered on average a 5% decline. Does that sound like a "fixed economy"?
2) FACT - hundreds of $millions of Obama's TARP money went directly to companies who used the money to build factories overseas.
3) There has been a record sharp increase in corporate mergers building "super corporations" since 2012. What happens when companies merge? People lose jobs. Period. Record numbers.
4) Wall Street investment companies and the central banks profits have absolutely EXPLODED under Obama. Yet...they are still given free access to our tax money to use to build their profits...like $40 Billion...a MONTH. Yet, again, 93% of working Americans have not received one red cent of all of these record profits.

Yeah....the economy is fixed alright.

 

[sealybobo]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

Really?...explain this...

1) The top 7% wage earners under Obama have lavished in a historic 33% earnings INCREASE. While the remaining 93% of WORKING Americans have suffered on average a 5% decline. Does that sound like a "fixed economy"?
2) FACT - hundreds of $millions of Obama's TARP money went directly to companies who used the money to build factories overseas.
3) There has been a record sharp increase in corporate mergers building "super corporations" since 2012. What happens when companies merge? People lose jobs. Period. Record numbers.
4) Wall Street investment companies and the central banks profits have absolutely EXPLODED under Obama. Yet...they are still given free access to our tax money to use to build their profits...like $40 Billion...a MONTH. Yet, again, 93% of working Americans have not received one red cent of all of these record profits.

Yeah....the economy is fixed alright.

It sounds like bushanomics worked perfectly.

 

[sealybobo]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

Really?...explain this...

1) The top 7% wage earners under Obama have lavished in a historic 33% earnings INCREASE. While the remaining 93% of WORKING Americans have suffered on average a 5% decline. Does that sound like a "fixed economy"?
2) FACT - hundreds of $millions of Obama's TARP money went directly to companies who used the money to build factories overseas.
3) There has been a record sharp increase in corporate mergers building "super corporations" since 2012. What happens when companies merge? People lose jobs. Period. Record numbers.
4) Wall Street investment companies and the central banks profits have absolutely EXPLODED under Obama. Yet...they are still given free access to our tax money to use to build their profits...like $40 Billion...a MONTH. Yet, again, 93% of working Americans have not received one red cent of all of these record profits.

Yeah....the economy is fixed alright.

You sound like a liberal! I agree. What should we do?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

Really?...explain this...

1) The top 7% wage earners under Obama have lavished in a historic 33% earnings INCREASE. While the remaining 93% of WORKING Americans have suffered on average a 5% decline. Does that sound like a "fixed economy"?
2) FACT - hundreds of $millions of Obama's TARP money went directly to companies who used the money to build factories overseas.
3) There has been a record sharp increase in corporate mergers building "super corporations" since 2012. What happens when companies merge? People lose jobs. Period. Record numbers.
4) Wall Street investment companies and the central banks profits have absolutely EXPLODED under Obama. Yet...they are still given free access to our tax money to use to build their profits...like $40 Billion...a MONTH. Yet, again, 93% of working Americans have not received one red cent of all of these record profits.

Yeah....the economy is fixed alright.

It sounds like bushanomics worked perfectly.

I thought you said Obama fixed Bush's policies? You mean he didn't?

See..here is where you show your complete ignorance.
Bush and Obama have basically identical economic policies. That is, both have been AWOL. They both let the FEDs and the Central Banks do whatever they please.
Bush went and chopped down trees and cleared brush...Obama plays golf.
Either way neither of these Presidents have involved themselves in economic policys. And that is an indisputable fact.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You sound like a liberal! I agree. What should we do?

Not elect corporatist/elitist. Hillary Clinton is an elitist/corporatist to the max. Even more than Trump. Another indisputable fact. She is one of the most connected people on the planet. And many of those connections are to some of the most nefarious people on the planet also. And once again, indisputable.

 

[leftwinger]

After how Republicans fucked up the country from 2001 to 2008, if I could, I would blame it on Obama too. It only takes a minute to close a factory, but it takes years to build one up.

it is not clear that greedy evil "Republicans" own ALL the closed factories? How do you know all factories owned by Republicans? It is world wide free market forces? They do many things faster better cheaper overseas, so off they go to please the stockholders. This is business, nothing different under Clinton, Carter or GWB as far as I know.

Why don't you go after Apple? They make all their crap over "there". We still lucky many design centers are still based in USA. Even that is being slowly outsourced world wide.

 

[leftwinger]

Yeah....the economy is fixed alright.

I do not quite understand how the FED dumping $4T free money into US GOVT helped out? Would the market have provided that estimated $4T if not the FED? That amount is a lot of the $8T debt ran up recently. Congress allowed unlimited spending last 8 going on 9 years now?

Would they have been able to spend that much if the FED was not willing to print and give money? The FED balance sheet was not high prior to 2009?

 

[sealybobo]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

Really?...explain this...

1) The top 7% wage earners under Obama have lavished in a historic 33% earnings INCREASE. While the remaining 93% of WORKING Americans have suffered on average a 5% decline. Does that sound like a "fixed economy"?
2) FACT - hundreds of $millions of Obama's TARP money went directly to companies who used the money to build factories overseas.
3) There has been a record sharp increase in corporate mergers building "super corporations" since 2012. What happens when companies merge? People lose jobs. Period. Record numbers.
4) Wall Street investment companies and the central banks profits have absolutely EXPLODED under Obama. Yet...they are still given free access to our tax money to use to build their profits...like $40 Billion...a MONTH. Yet, again, 93% of working Americans have not received one red cent of all of these record profits.

Yeah....the economy is fixed alright.

It sounds like bushanomics worked perfectly.

I thought you said Obama fixed Bush's policies? You mean he didn't?

See..here is where you show your complete ignorance.
Bush and Obama have basically identical economic policies. That is, both have been AWOL. They both let the FEDs and the Central Banks do whatever they please.
Bush went and chopped down trees and cleared brush...Obama plays golf.
Either way neither of these Presidents have involved themselves in economic policys. And that is an indisputable fact.

If you ask GOP governor Rick Snyder he will explain how Michigan is back.

The only people still hurting are the uneducated. Your only advice to them is move, go back to school or start a business.

The GOP has no help for the uneducated unemployed.

 

[Papageorgio]

I don't want government to dictate who anyone hires or fires. I hear from you liberals that this is Obama's recovery and then you blame republicans. Pretty low from a drug dealer, who works under the table and doesn't pay taxes on the earnings. Maybe you could donate to veterans instead of blaming others.

You're changing the subject and making this personal. Please don't talk to me again if you can't stop doing that. Sports too. Just fuck off you little bitch.

You obviously haven't answered any of my question you stupid fuck. My point is not that government should force corporations to hire anyone. If that's what you got out of what I wrote maybe you should go back to talking sports son.

You are the one that brought up that I should stick with sports, if you can't stick to the subject maybe you have drugs to deal and taxes to avoid...son. If you can't take it little boy don't dish it. Got it stupid fuck?

You should stick to sports. You suck at talking about that too but at least you stay in the lane you can handle.

And you should stick to your drug dealing and tax evasion because you suck on politics and every other subject. You started the insults and if you expect me to take it from you and not fight back you are wrong.

Have a good day.

Fuck off. I did not. I backed you into an intellectual corner and you had to resort to falling back on this personal conversation you keep trying to fall back on. As if me selling weed discredits anything I say. I only find you not a douchebag on sports talk issues. Go back in your lane you mental midget. I don't want to go off on a little bitch fight with you.

Your first response to me had an attack, not my issue that you are a nut job.

You asked in your poll if it was Obama's fault, the liberals say it is his recovery and is going well. If it is Obama's recovery does he only take credit for the good and not the bad?

This is an issue that BOTH parties have ignored, anyone with a brain knows that. Democrats and Republicans for decades have had the chance to fix the veterans issues and have ignored it.

Business should not be required to hire a vet, however since they defended our country maybe a company that hires them should get a tax incentive for hiring them. Our company will hire vets, we have several that we have hired. I think people have to learn to appreciate what these men and women have done for our country. Government doesn't show them respect, that is where it starts. I don't care about political party on this issue but you want to make it a party issue.

 

[Papageorgio]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

Really?...explain this...

1) The top 7% wage earners under Obama have lavished in a historic 33% earnings INCREASE. While the remaining 93% of WORKING Americans have suffered on average a 5% decline. Does that sound like a "fixed economy"?
2) FACT - hundreds of $millions of Obama's TARP money went directly to companies who used the money to build factories overseas.
3) There has been a record sharp increase in corporate mergers building "super corporations" since 2012. What happens when companies merge? People lose jobs. Period. Record numbers.
4) Wall Street investment companies and the central banks profits have absolutely EXPLODED under Obama. Yet...they are still given free access to our tax money to use to build their profits...like $40 Billion...a MONTH. Yet, again, 93% of working Americans have not received one red cent of all of these record profits.

Yeah....the economy is fixed alright.

It sounds like bushanomics worked perfectly.

I thought you said Obama fixed Bush's policies? You mean he didn't?

See..here is where you show your complete ignorance.
Bush and Obama have basically identical economic policies. That is, both have been AWOL. They both let the FEDs and the Central Banks do whatever they please.
Bush went and chopped down trees and cleared brush...Obama plays golf.
Either way neither of these Presidents have involved themselves in economic policys. And that is an indisputable fact.

If you ask GOP governor Rick Snyder he will explain how Michigan is back.

The only people still hurting are the uneducated. Your only advice to them is move, go back to school or start a business.

The GOP has no help for the uneducated unemployed.

Again with the party BS. It is not the party it is the government, we have had this issue for decades, whether Congress was a d or R majority or whether the President was a D of R. Time to take the party out of it and work on solutions.

Education is one of the points that the Armed Services uses to attract recruits, where is the breakdown there?

 

[sealybobo]

You're changing the subject and making this personal. Please don't talk to me again if you can't stop doing that. Sports too. Just fuck off you little bitch.

You obviously haven't answered any of my question you stupid fuck. My point is not that government should force corporations to hire anyone. If that's what you got out of what I wrote maybe you should go back to talking sports son.

You are the one that brought up that I should stick with sports, if you can't stick to the subject maybe you have drugs to deal and taxes to avoid...son. If you can't take it little boy don't dish it. Got it stupid fuck?

You should stick to sports. You suck at talking about that too but at least you stay in the lane you can handle.

And you should stick to your drug dealing and tax evasion because you suck on politics and every other subject. You started the insults and if you expect me to take it from you and not fight back you are wrong.

Have a good day.

Fuck off. I did not. I backed you into an intellectual corner and you had to resort to falling back on this personal conversation you keep trying to fall back on. As if me selling weed discredits anything I say. I only find you not a douchebag on sports talk issues. Go back in your lane you mental midget. I don't want to go off on a little bitch fight with you.

Your first response to me had an attack, not my issue that you are a nut job.

You asked in your poll if it was Obama's fault, the liberals say it is his recovery and is going well. If it is Obama's recovery does he only take credit for the good and not the bad?

This is an issue that BOTH parties have ignored, anyone with a brain knows that. Democrats and Republicans for decades have had the chance to fix the veterans issues and have ignored it.

Business should not be required to hire a vet, however since they defended our country maybe a company that hires them should get a tax incentive for hiring them. Our company will hire vets, we have several that we have hired. I think people have to learn to appreciate what these men and women have done for our country. Government doesn't show them respect, that is where it starts. I don't care about political party on this issue but you want to make it a party issue.

I don't think corporations show them enough respect either.

The next 100,000 Ford gm Toyota and Honda hires should be vets. Why not?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The next 100,000 Ford gm Toyota and Honda hires should be vets. Why not?

1) That would take 100 years...they have less employees working in the U.S. not more. (Except Toyota of course)
2) It would be discriminatory. How would you feel to be a qualified/experienced applicant and someone else less qualified got the job for any reason. Discrimination is discrimination regardless of the reason.

 

[Papageorgio]

Impossible. Just impossible.
No way can this be true. Obama says the economy is doing great.

Obama certainly fixed the economy bush broke.

Bush sent millions of good paying manufacturing jobs overseas. The people who had those good paying factory jobs were uneducated Americans. Those are the Americans still hurting. What do Republicans want to say to these people? Many of them are vets. This is my point.

I notice Republicans won't give the same advice to uneducated unemployed vets that they give to non vets.

NAFTA, businesses looking for higher profits and lower taxes were the reason businesses went overseas. When you signed up for the military I thought a college scholarships were part of the deal when you got out. Am I mistaken?

 

[Papageorgio]

You are the one that brought up that I should stick with sports, if you can't stick to the subject maybe you have drugs to deal and taxes to avoid...son. If you can't take it little boy don't dish it. Got it stupid fuck?

You should stick to sports. You suck at talking about that too but at least you stay in the lane you can handle.

And you should stick to your drug dealing and tax evasion because you suck on politics and every other subject. You started the insults and if you expect me to take it from you and not fight back you are wrong.

Have a good day.

Fuck off. I did not. I backed you into an intellectual corner and you had to resort to falling back on this personal conversation you keep trying to fall back on. As if me selling weed discredits anything I say. I only find you not a douchebag on sports talk issues. Go back in your lane you mental midget. I don't want to go off on a little bitch fight with you.

Your first response to me had an attack, not my issue that you are a nut job.

You asked in your poll if it was Obama's fault, the liberals say it is his recovery and is going well. If it is Obama's recovery does he only take credit for the good and not the bad?

This is an issue that BOTH parties have ignored, anyone with a brain knows that. Democrats and Republicans for decades have had the chance to fix the veterans issues and have ignored it.

Business should not be required to hire a vet, however since they defended our country maybe a company that hires them should get a tax incentive for hiring them. Our company will hire vets, we have several that we have hired. I think people have to learn to appreciate what these men and women have done for our country. Government doesn't show them respect, that is where it starts. I don't care about political party on this issue but you want to make it a party issue.

I don't think corporations show them enough respect either.

The next 100,000 Ford gm Toyota and Honda hires should be vets. Why not?

It starts with the government, if they don't show them respect, why should anyone else? I am against forcing a business to hire anyone. You are taking the right of the business to act like a business. Again why can't the government hold out an incentive for a business to hire a vet? Then let the business make the decision. It starts with the government who created the vets.

 

[pinqy]

Why are so many vets unemployed? Republicans like to say anyone who doesn't have a job is a slacker. Do they say that about the half million vets who can't find a job?

Why aren't corporations hiring these people?

Maybe it's not as easy as Republicans suggest. Do they tell the vets they're just being whiners? Do Republicans tell the vets to go back to school or just start their own business?

I want to hear Republicans give these vets the same advice you give Democrats who say they can't find a good job or any job at all.

Let's see if Republicans can keep from disrespecting the 500,000 vets who can't find a job.

And corporations need to hire vets first. That should be a policy.

I'm not sure where you're getting the 509,000 number from. As of November, it was 391,000 unemployed veterans. The unemployment rate for veterans is 3.6% even Gulf War II era veterans, who long had had a higher than national unemployment rate, are down to to 4.2%

 

[rdean]

Obama’s Veterans Day message focuses on jobs

At Arlington Cemetery, Obama asks American employers to 'hire a vet'

Obama: Want the job done? 'Hire a veteran'

Obama Pushing Jobs For Unemployed Military Veterans

Obama promises veterans he’s ‘still not satisfied’ with VA health & jobs programs

Obama Asks for More Spending on Veterans

What has the REPUBLICAN-controlled congress done?

It's Obama's economy, it's his recovery, so what has he done? He has created job growth, he wants credit, he has got it.

If it's Obama economy, how come Republicans keep fucking it up? We could get more help from al Qaeda and Isis than the GOP.

 

[Papageorgio]

Obama’s Veterans Day message focuses on jobs

At Arlington Cemetery, Obama asks American employers to 'hire a vet'

Obama: Want the job done? 'Hire a veteran'

Obama Pushing Jobs For Unemployed Military Veterans

Obama promises veterans he’s ‘still not satisfied’ with VA health & jobs programs

Obama Asks for More Spending on Veterans

What has the REPUBLICAN-controlled congress done?

It's Obama's economy, it's his recovery, so what has he done? He has created job growth, he wants credit, he has got it.

If it's Obama economy, how come Republicans keep fucking it up? We could get more help from al Qaeda and Isis than the GOP.

According to liberals the economy is booming, all because of Obama. Are you saying it isn't as good as you liberals have claimed? Have you been lying to America?

 

[sealybobo]

The next 100,000 Ford gm Toyota and Honda hires should be vets. Why not?

1) That would take 100 years...they have less employees working in the U.S. not more. (Except Toyota of course)
2) It would be discriminatory. How would you feel to be a qualified/experienced applicant and someone else less qualified got the job for any reason. Discrimination is discrimination regardless of the reason.

They don't hire "the best qualified". You have to know someone working at Ford to be considered. They don't test them by seeing how fast they can put a tire on a car.

You could be the best line worker in the world you won't even get an interview unless you have a friend/family member working there