5 Common Myths about "The Settlements".

[rylah]

Land ownership facts not propaganda:

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How did the Jews pay more taxes than Arabs while having less land?

 

[montelatici]

Taxes were paid on the transaction value, and the Jews had more current (higher) sales transactions and, urban land paid more tax than extra-urban land.

 

[rylah]

Land ownership facts, not propaganda:

So Jews have to be cleansed form Palestine because they were a minority that was expelled from Jerusalem, Hebron, Sefad, Tiberias, Gaza etc by the Arabs?

 

[rylah]

Taxes were paid on the transaction value, and the Jews had more current (higher) sales transactions and, urban land paid more tax than extra-urban land.

The whole table is dealing with Land ownership, how did import value appeared here? Did the lands go through customs?

 

[montelatici]

Land ownership facts, not propaganda:

So Jews have to be cleansed form Palestine because they were a minority that was expelled from Jerusalem, Hebron, Sefad, Tiberias, Gaza etc by the Arabs?

If you read the documented history from the Jewish source I provided, you will see that Jews from outside Palestine re-entered Palestine after the Muslim conquest of Christian Palestine in 638 AD. Non-Christians living in the area, which included Jews had converted to Christianity after 380 AD, centuries before, when Christianity became the state religion of Rome and only Christians could be residents.

The Arabian Muslim conquest allowed Jews that accompanied the Muslim invaders, to re-enter Palestine, but Palestine remained overwhelmingly Christian for centuries after the Muslim conquest. In fact, the population remained overwhelmingly Christian when the Crusaders conquered Palestine and remained so until after Saladin defeated the Latin (Christian) Kingdom of Jerusalem in 1087, at that point the Christians began to convert to Islam. Eventually Muslim Palestinians became the majority. But their ancestors did not change.

The Jews need to accept the historical facts and negotiate a fair solution with the native people of Palestine they stole the land from. A solution that does not imply the ethnic cleansing of anyone.

 

[montelatici]

Taxes were paid on the transaction value, and the Jews had more current (higher) sales transactions and, urban land paid more tax than extra-urban land.

The whole table is dealing with Land ownership, how did import value appeared here? Did the lands go through customs?

You can read the Survey of Palestine vol. 2, which is linked. Like anywhere in the world, the sale of real estate is recorded and the amount paid for the land is registered. The amount paid for the land is then taxed at a rate according to the classification of the land.

 

[rylah]

Land ownership facts, not propaganda:

So Jews have to be cleansed form Palestine because they were a minority that was expelled from Jerusalem, Hebron, Sefad, Tiberias, Gaza etc by the Arabs?

If you read the documented history from the Jewish source I provided, you will see that Jews from outside Palestine re-entered Palestine after the Muslim conquest of Christian Palestine in 638 AD. Non-Christians living in the area, which included Jews had converted to Christianity after 380 AD, centuries before, when Christianity became the state religion of Rome and only Christians could be residents.

The Arabian Muslim conquest allowed Jews that accompanied the Muslim invaders, to re-enter Palestine, but Palestine remained overwhelmingly Christian for centuries after the Muslim conquest. In fact, the population remained overwhelmingly Christian when the Crusaders conquered Palestine and remained so until after Saladin defeated the Latin (Christian) Kingdom of Jerusalem in 1087, at that point the Christians began to convert to Islam. Eventually Muslim Palestinians became the majority. But their ancestors did not change.

The Jews need to accept the historical facts and negotiate a fair solution with the native people of Palestine they stole the land from. A solution that does not imply the ethnic cleansing of anyone.

Where exactly does it say there were no Jews in Palestine?

So if You're against ethnic cleansing why do You support a side that want a whole area Juderein (like You showed they've been trying for centuries)?

 

[montelatici]

"Their war against the Byzantines started in 602 CE. By 614, they took Judea and were about to take Jerusalem, with the help of the local Jews who were eager to free their old city from which they had been banned since the revolt of Bar-Kochba."



SEDER OLAM REVISITED - Chronology of the Jewish History

 

[rylah]

Taxes were paid on the transaction value, and the Jews had more current (higher) sales transactions and, urban land paid more tax than extra-urban land.

The whole table is dealing with Land ownership, how did import value appeared here? Did the lands go through customs?

You can read the Survey of Palestine vol. 2, which is linked. Like anywhere in the world, the sale of real estate is recorded and the amount paid for the land is registered. The amount paid for the land is then taxed at a rate according to the classification of the land.

So Jews had only a small percentage of the land in each area where Arabs had the majority, but Jews still paid more than 50% of taxes overall??

Just another reason for a Jewish rule in those places. At least in Israel Arabs are getting their special discounts.

 

[rylah]

"Their war against the Byzantines started in 602 CE. By 614, they took Judea and were about to take Jerusalem, with the help of the local Jews who were eager to free their old city from which they had been banned since the revolt of Bar-Kochba."



SEDER OLAM REVISITED - Chronology of the Jewish History

Earth to MONTE-

It still doesn't say "now Jews in Palestine" like You claimed. Anyway You twist it to match Your version of history, next time be more careful with the words, while DELETING whole people from the history of a region that's been named after them.

Especially while in the middle of advocating for their current expulsion and ethnic cleansing from Judea Samaria today.

 

[elektra]

It really don't matter how many arabs or how many jews were in Palestine. What matters is who built a Nation. That would be the Jews.

 

[montelatici]

The British built Israel, not the Jews. It was a British colony that the British transferred European Jews to and through British force of arms that prevented the overwhelming majority of Christians and Muslims from establishing a country as the native people of Palestine.

 

[rylah]

The British built Israel, not the Jews. It was a British colony that the British transferred European Jews to and through British force of arms that prevented the overwhelming majority of Christians and Muslims from establishing a country as the native people of Palestine.

Monte You really don't miss an opportunity to erase Jews. Something is going on here...

Who dried the swamps?
Who bought the lands?
Who built the Petah Tikva?
Who fought for the existence of Israel?

These were simple Jewish workers who endured much and prospered:

 

[montelatici]

That is Zionist propaganda, which obviously is the only thing you know. Understandable. But, if you want to know the truth, watch this. The director is a Jew.

 

[rylah]

That is Zionist propaganda, which obviously is the only thing you know. Understandable. But, if you want to know the truth, watch this. The director is a Jew.

Oh so "the director is a Jew" it must be true right?
Sounds like the famous:
"I have many Jewish friends".

Do You have a an exact factual point somewhere there in the video,
what minute proves Your claims or contradicts mine?

 

[Shusha]

If you read the documented history from the Jewish source I provided, you will see that Jews from outside Palestine re-entered Palestine after the Muslim conquest of Christian Palestine in 638 AD. ...

The Arabian Muslim conquest allowed Jews that accompanied the Muslim invaders, to re-enter Palestine, ...

Wait, what?! Did monte just admit that the Jews are RETURNING TO THEIR HOMELAND?

 

[montelatici]

If you read the documented history from the Jewish source I provided, you will see that Jews from outside Palestine re-entered Palestine after the Muslim conquest of Christian Palestine in 638 AD. ...

The Arabian Muslim conquest allowed Jews that accompanied the Muslim invaders, to re-enter Palestine, ...

Wait, what?! Did monte just admit that the Jews are RETURNING TO THEIR HOMELAND?

It was not their homeland. The foreign Jews had been allowed to enter Christian Palestine when the Persians conquered Christian Palestine, were evicted when the Roman Christians recovered their homeland and were allowed to re-enter when they helped the Muslims conquer Palestine. Try to keep up.

 

[montelatici]

That is Zionist propaganda, which obviously is the only thing you know. Understandable. But, if you want to know the truth, watch this. The director is a Jew.

Oh so "the director is a Jew" it must be true right?
Sounds like the famous:
"I have many Jewish friends".

Do You have a an exact factual point somewhere there in the video,
what minute proves Your claims or contradicts mine?

The video is fact.

 

[Shusha]

Ah well, I knew it was too good to be true. Of course the native history of "Palestine" began with the Christians. Sigh.

 

[rylah]

That is Zionist propaganda, which obviously is the only thing you know. Understandable. But, if you want to know the truth, watch this. The director is a Jew.

Oh so "the director is a Jew" it must be true right?
Sounds like the famous:
"I have many Jewish friends".

Do You have a an exact factual point somewhere there in the video,
what minute proves Your claims or contradicts mine?

The video is fact.

And again it contradicts Your claim that "Jews didn't build Israel".
Your video actually talks about Jews RETURNING to their homeland after 20 centuries of exile, and shows how the Jews cultivated the lands they bought- by themselves.

Don't You read Your own propaganda before posting, or You just automatically say the opposite?