48%: The Democratic Party needs to face an ugly reality

[JustAGuy1]

Biden is center left which means he is closer to the middle than Trump is. Trump is the far right wing extremist.

For starters you are wrong. He is only center left if compared to the AOC's of the world, which, incidentally, he seems to support. Secondly, Biden won't be president for long if elected. Harris will take over and she is nowhere near the center.

Most voters disagree with you. Trump says that Harris is near the center.

Harris is just another FAR Left kook.

 

[kaz]

She didn't actually admit anything. She made a vague, meaningless statement that didn't say anything and didn't explain what happened.

One question. Who is "us." She said Obama didn't tell "us."

And no bull shit, show how you know who "us" is

Us would be the publisher...

Sorry, man, publishers make mistakes all the time. It's why books are often revised.

Rejected. How do you know it's "the publisher?" You don't know that, you want it to mean that

 

[JakeStarkey]

Just your own worthless hate filled opinion. That and $5 will buy you a cup of coffee

That is just your own TDS hate, my friend. Trump is simply a bad, bad man, Biden is a decent fellow, and the only ugly reality the Dems must face is that they may have a harder time taking the Senate than the Presidency, the latter which they will do in fifty days or so.

Um ... what? You say I have TDS then you go on a TDS rant? What is wrong with you?

You are obviously TDS afflicted. Trump is a bad man. Biden is a decent fellow. Biden and the debate moderators are going to let him show the world how much the Dem Party has nothing to fear from him or the GOP. The debates will be some bad days at Orange Rocks for Trump.

Fake Jake: "That is just your own TDS hate, my friend. Trump is simply a bad, bad man."

You are one weird little dude. This word you are using, TDS, I do not think it means what you think it means ...

As usual, the ad homs start as you lose the argument. Your TDS in support an obviously man is very clear. The weirdness is all on the side of the Trumpers trying to support the orange man. To get a minority victory, he is going to need that 48 to spill over into six battle ground states, and nothing shows that is going to happen.

 

[kaz]

Fake Jake: "That is just your own TDS hate, my friend. Trump is simply a bad, bad man."

You are one weird little dude. This word you are using, TDS, I do not think it means what you think it means ...

As usual, the ad homs start as you lose the argument. Your TDS in support an obviously man is very clear. The weirdness is all on the side of the Trumpers trying to support the orange man. To get a minority victory, he is going to need that 48 to spill over into six battle ground states, and nothing shows that is going to happen.

You off your meds again, Fake? You obviously don't know what TDS means. Remember last time you stopped taking your meds and the cops picked you up in that rich family's yard naked as the day you were born and you spent several months in the State psycho ward? Are we headed that way again?

 

[JakeStarkey]

ou know it's true, stop being a schmuck. Obama's publisher didn't make it up, Joe.

Actually, Obama's publisher admitted she made a mistake when doing background research for promotional materials...

'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991

A possible source of the so-called "birther" issue--or at least a potential cause of the rumors that have dogged President Barack Obama--has been identified.

abcnews.go.com

Again, if you are going to keep lying, there's no point talking to you.

She didn't actually admit anything. She made a vague, meaningless statement that didn't say anything and didn't explain what happened.

One question. Who is "us." She said Obama didn't tell "us."

And no bull shit, show how you know who "us" is

Actualy, she did what JoeB said she did, and she did not say what you said she said. Stay on topic and start giving facts not your assertions,

Obviously you didn't read the article. She said "us." Who is "us" Fake. And don't make up an answer, show how you know that

The "us" does not mean what you think it means. For ten years, when you get outed, you go to ad hom. The Dems have no worry about the 48 of the OP at all. The worry is if the Senate can be taken. The President's supporters are just frothing in TDS at their better informed and more eloquent opponents.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I'm not running anywhere.....Fascists are leftists,

Lying and running is a fascist trait, one that you consistently display. Affer all, your cult gives you brownie points for doing it.

Let's get back to what all the Trump cult liars are running from, so they can run from it again.

The Nazis possessed all of these very right wing qualities:
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A fervent embrace of crony capitalism.

Preservation of private property.

A political base among businessmen, not workers.

A murderous hatred of communism

No social safety net, no wealth redistribution.

Subjugation of women to solely a motherhood role.

A desire to safeguard the dominant social and racial heirarchy.
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I could name some more bad things about Nazis, like fervent nationalism and xenophobia, glorification of the state, censorship, human slavery, death camps, but those bad things are common to all authoritarian regimes, so they don't make the Nazis right-wing.

So, Trump cultists, what are the leftist traits of the Nazis? The fact that none of you can name any would indicate that you're lying, and that you know you're lying, but you lie anyways because it's what the cult demands of you.

Nazis was

Against abortion

Banned smoking

Eliminated crosses

Took guns away

All left wing traits


.

 

[kaz]

Just your own worthless hate filled opinion. That and $5 will buy you a cup of coffee

That is just your own TDS hate, my friend. Trump is simply a bad, bad man, Biden is a decent fellow, and the only ugly reality the Dems must face is that they may have a harder time taking the Senate than the Presidency, the latter which they will do in fifty days or so.

Um ... what? You say I have TDS then you go on a TDS rant? What is wrong with you?

You are obviously TDS afflicted. Trump is a bad man. Biden is a decent fellow. Biden and the debate moderators are going to let him show the world how much the Dem Party has nothing to fear from him or the GOP. The debates will be some bad days at Orange Rocks for Trump.

Fake Jake: "That is just your own TDS hate, my friend. Trump is simply a bad, bad man."

You are one weird little dude. This word you are using, TDS, I do not think it means what you think it means ...

As usual, the ad homs start as you lose the argument. Your TDS in support an obviously man is very clear. The weirdness is all on the side of the Trumpers trying to support the orange man. To get a minority victory, he is going to need that 48 to spill over into six battle ground states, and nothing shows that is going to happen.

Fake: You have TDS, kaz! You are filled with hate! You're TDS inflicted!

Fake: Why the ad homs, kaz? What's up with that?

Moron

 

[kaz]

ou know it's true, stop being a schmuck. Obama's publisher didn't make it up, Joe.

Actually, Obama's publisher admitted she made a mistake when doing background research for promotional materials...

'Born in Kenya': Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991

A possible source of the so-called "birther" issue--or at least a potential cause of the rumors that have dogged President Barack Obama--has been identified.

abcnews.go.com

Again, if you are going to keep lying, there's no point talking to you.

She didn't actually admit anything. She made a vague, meaningless statement that didn't say anything and didn't explain what happened.

One question. Who is "us." She said Obama didn't tell "us."

And no bull shit, show how you know who "us" is

Actualy, she did what JoeB said she did, and she did not say what you said she said. Stay on topic and start giving facts not your assertions,

Obviously you didn't read the article. She said "us." Who is "us" Fake. And don't make up an answer, show how you know that

The "us" does not mean what you think it means. For ten years, when you get outed, you go to ad hom. The Dems have no worry about the 48 of the OP at all. The worry is if the Senate can be taken. The President's supporters are just frothing in TDS at their better informed and more eloquent opponents.

This word, Republican. I do not think it means what you think it means ...

Your saying Republicans don't root for States to go blue is a True Scotsman fallacy was priceless though, Fake Jake

 

[JoeB131]

Rejected. How do you know it's "the publisher?" You don't know that, you want it to mean that

Who else could it mean, in the context of what she said.

"This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me--an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote in an emailed statement to Yahoo News. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."


That seems pretty clear. She worked for the agency. Nothing Obama provided to the AGENCY indicated that he was born in Kenya.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Agreed. We have a lack of leadership on both sides. This is clearly exemplified by the two bimbos, Joe and Don.

One solution is separation. Give black Americans 13% of the nation geographically and agree to peacefully separate, but remain friendly.

Or we could actually do the DECENT thing and make up for our past misconduct. We could try that. I mean, I know that's a crazy idea.

Frankly, what are black people asking for that is so unreasonable? To be treated the same way by law enforcement white people are?

Our money for something that never happened to them. They need to grow up and accept that THEY are responsible for themselves.

 

[JoeB131]

Nazis was

Against abortion

Banned smoking

Eliminated crosses

Took guns away

All left wing traits

I think you are a little confused. The Nazis didn't eliminate crosses. They didn't take guns away. (Ironically, the Allies did after the war.)

As for their position on Abortion, their position was the right wing one. The Nazis were actually the only country to actually execute people for performing abortions.

 

[JoeB131]

Our money for something that never happened to them. They need to grow up and accept that THEY are responsible for themselves.

Again, you can't pretend that 400 years of institutionalized racism hasn't had an effect. I mean, I know you want to, but you really can't.

 

[JustAGuy1]

If Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, Nevada and New Hampshire are in play, Biden's in trouble. And they are

Actually, NH and MN aren't in play. Neither are Michigan or Wisconsin.

Trump has gone dark in PA and MI, he's out of money.

So you are conceding that Trump won't win the popular vote this time, either, and your only hope is people won't pay attention to what is going on with the EC.

You don't become Prez by "winning" the popular vote. Nobody ever has.

 

[DukeU]

Not for something THAT stupid.

LOL

Really? Then why do we have so many statues of people who owned slaves, with people fighting to make sure we never, ever take those statues down.

Hey, you can go far and wide over Europe, and you won't find one public statue of Hitler.

If you want to abolish something as a sign of ending slave culture, start with the democratic party and everything associated with democrats. Then you will be addressing the issue, until then you're just blowing smoke. Thick smoke.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Our money for something that never happened to them. They need to grow up and accept that THEY are responsible for themselves.

Again, you can't pretend that 400 years of institutionalized racism hasn't had an effect. I mean, I know you want to, but you really can't.

Sorry, no. They are stuck in adolescence, neither the United States or the World owe them anything.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't become Prez by "winning" the popular vote. Nobody ever has.

Sigh... I'm not sure why you think Trump winning on a technicality is a good thing, exactly. The majority thought he was unfit for office. He has proven them right.

If you want to abolish something as a sign of ending slave culture, start with the democratic party and everything associated with democrats. Then you will be addressing the issue, until then you're just blowing smoke. Thick smoke.

The Democrats threw out the racists in 1968, and the REpublicans welcomed them with open arms.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Funny how you demand that those of us who have read extensive history bow to your bachelors degree from a no name college, you give zero respect to my advanced degrees in business, management and economics from pedigree schools and insist the Communist Manifesto is right.

When have I ever insisted the Communist Manifesto was "right"?

I went to UIC. Hardly a no-name college.

Frankly, I give no credence to your economic expertise because your side has brought us the last five recessions.

(And, yes, I know you aren't a "republican", you're a "libertarian", but the GOP only really started fucking things up badly when the Koch brothers hijacked the plane.)

And I give your history degree no credence because your arguments about history were full of shit.

So your stupid ass bull shit that you win because history is rejected. Back to the discussion ...

JoeB is the poster boi for "White Guilt".

 

[JustAGuy1]

You don't become Prez by "winning" the popular vote. Nobody ever has.

Sigh... I'm not sure why you think Trump winning on a technicality is a good thing, exactly. The majority thought he was unfit for office. He has proven them right.

If you want to abolish something as a sign of ending slave culture, start with the democratic party and everything associated with democrats. Then you will be addressing the issue, until then you're just blowing smoke. Thick smoke.

The Democrats threw out the racists in 1968, and the REpublicans welcomed them with open arms.

A Constitutional Mandate is inly a "technicality" to those who ALWAYS want to change the rules when they don't get their way.

 

[JoeB131]

Sorry, no. They are stuck in adolescence, neither the United States or the World owe them anything.

You keep telling yourself that...

Me, I don't want to live like an Israeli with my foot on the neck of a minority out of fear they will turn on me at any moment.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Economy: Joe's idea of creating jobs is to increase taxes on those evil wealthy people--you know, the people that create our jobs. Trump wants to continue having lower taxes and keep his policy of business regulation control, whereas every new business regulation written by the government has to have two regulations removed in it's place. Go.

Yeah, except Trump's policies have brought us double digit unemployment and a 33% drop in GDP. So really, nothing he says has credibility.

You can lie to yourself, but you can't lie to us. We live here. We (rational people) know what happened to our country and economy, and we know it had nothing to do with Trump or his policies. It was your (and the Biden's) friends in Communist China.