3/5 Of A Human Being

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For historical perspective.....

There is no society in which slavery didn't exist.

North African Muslims enslaved millions of white folks.....hence the Barbary War.

The only question that is pertinent is, which societies have banned slavery.


Slavery ended first....FIRST...in America.

"July 2, 1777. In response to abolitionists' calls across the colonies to end slavery, Vermont became the first colony to ban it outright. Not only did Vermont's legislature agree to abolish slavery entirely, it also moved to provide full voting rights for African American males."
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Vermont 1777: Early Steps Against Slavery
Long before Vermont became our 14th state, its people were known for their independence. They were not excited about joining the new United States; nor did they want to remain a part of the British crown. They liked being independent and made that clear to the other colonies on more than one...
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That's thirty years before England abolished slavery.
How many societies had our Declaration of Independence and our federal Constitution. Bearing false witness to both is a sin (unto God).
yes maybe you should consider your lies Ms 1808 liar
Says Ms Constitutional ignorance.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no, they weren't unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional
Yes, they were unConstitutional. Right wingers are simply hypocrites when they complain others don't, obey the laws.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them
Jim Crow laws were never Constitutional.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them

I was simply pointing out that, like every totalitarian religion, the Nazis paid homage to the Democrat Party.
Right wingers were democrats back then. Lincoln was a republican.
 

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Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
  • The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character. It thus excluded American Indians, indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, and Asians.


  • the civil rights act of 1866 gave slaves and blacks citizenship rights now move along dumbass
 

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Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
  • The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character. It thus excluded American Indians, indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, and Asians.


  • the civil rights act of 1866 gave slaves and blacks citizenship rights now move along dumbass
Thanks for the info, but it means nothing after the ratification of our federal Constitution. Any natural born person in the US was a citizen by birth even if not recognized by extra-Constitutional laws at the time. States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization after 1808.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them
Jim Crow laws were never Constitutional.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
Yes Jim Crow laws were constitutional at the time they were written
 

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Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
  • The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character. It thus excluded American Indians, indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, and Asians.


  • the civil rights act of 1866 gave slaves and blacks citizenship rights now move along dumbass
Thanks for the info, but it means nothing after the ratification of our federal Constitution. Any natural born person in the US was a citizen by birth even if not recognized by extra-Constitutional laws at the time. States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization after 1808.
Civil rights act of 1866 gave slaves and blacks rights
or are you saying slaves had rights?
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them

I was simply pointing out that, like every totalitarian religion, the Nazis paid homage to the Democrat Party.
Right wingers were democrats back then. Lincoln was a republican.
I'm not a right winger I'm a Republican you're a lying sack of shit
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them
Jim Crow laws were never Constitutional.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
Yes Jim Crow laws were constitutional at the time they were written
Not for any natural born citizen of the United States after 1808.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no, they weren't unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional
Yes, they were unConstitutional. Right wingers are simply hypocrites when they complain others don't, obey the laws.
  • Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court held that the US Constitution was not meant to include American citizenship for black people, regardless of whether they were enslaved or free, and so the rights and privileges that the Constitution confers upon American citizens could not apply to them.
 

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Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
Here is actual history not just right wing fantasy. Proof right wingers are true witness bearing challenged and are willing to project onto others what they themselves are doing.
it's the history of your democrat party lol
lol. Still appealing to ignorance not from ignorance? The South were democrats back then and is why they rebelled Against a Republican and his republican administration.
And your point after all they are rebelling now
The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States.

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
the unorganized exist to make sure we have a free state
lol. No, they don't. We have a First Amendment for that. Gun lovers only allege to care about the Second Amendment to love their guns better not because they actually Care about the security of our free States.
WOW SMH no we have the first amendment because of the second amendment
Not at all. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States; something the unorganized militia is worthless for.
wow how do you keep your first amendment right when it's the government with it's militia that has taken it away? You are fucking clueless
By not appealing to as much ignorance as right wingers. The Organized militia has literal recourse to our Second Amendment. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free States and prove it by all the gun control laws we have for Individuals of the People who comprise the unorganized militia. It is merely your right wing bigotry that causes you to be clueless and Causeless and hypocritical enough to project your fantastical line of reasoning on to others.
Damn you're ignorant
the organized militia which is the national guard is under the control of the government
The unorganized militia is not
lol. Our Second Amendment is about the security of our free States, it says so in the first clause. Individuals of the People are subject to the Police Power of a State. The unorganized militia is worthless to the security of our free State. The riots are Proof of why we need gun control laws for Individuals.
the organized milita state guard dictates you no longer have a free state and are under their rule
The riots are proof of why we need gun control??????? how do you stop rioters from harming you when the police are told to stand down?
Tell you what you do go live in one of those leftists controlled blue cities
FYI gun control violates second amendment rights to a free state
Our Second Amendment declares otherwise. There is no reason to believe anyone on the right wing claiming the opposite. We have a Second Amendment and should have no security problems. It is a simple ratio of organized militia to unorganized militia. If our State legislators were doing their job, we should have no riots only peaceful protests and petitions for redress of grievances because our First Amendment is First not Second.

A free State is not about Individual Liberty to bear Arms but about what is necessary to achieve the goal and objective to good Order, security. Our First Amendment and State equivalents are what a free State is about. Order not Chaos.

That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.
you're ignornt
You are simply clueless and Causeless.
says the idiot that doesn't know what a nanny state is and didn't know slaves and blacks before 1866 had no citizenship rights.
You are simply too dumb to understand; I have to work hard to try to dumb it down for the Right Wing.

Anyone born in the US after 1808 was supposed to be a Citizen. Why do you believe the North was gradually emancipating their slave population?
Dumbass show me the 1808 law that gave anyone born in the united states citizenship
it wasn't until the civil rights act of 1866 that gave slaves and free blacks citizenship rights.
BUT AGAIN SHOW THAT 1808 LAW THAT GAVE BLACKS AND SLAVES CITIZENSHIP RIGHTS.
Our federal Constitution is our supreme law of the land. Only the right wing, never gets it. Anyone born in the US after 1808 should have automatically been a US citizen by natural born birth. Any (white) male born in the US was a citizen of both their State and the Union.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
I asked you what law created in 1808 that gave slaves and freed blacks citizenship rights? Still waiting
What law gave anyone US citizenship after 1808? Simply being born in the US confers citizenship. Any exclusion was unConstitutional after 1808. Is that simple enough for you?
  • The original United States Naturalization Law of March 26, 1790 (1 Stat. 103) provided the first rules to be followed by the United States in the granting of national citizenship. This law limited naturalization to immigrants who were free white persons of good character. It thus excluded American Indians, indentured servants, slaves, free blacks, and Asians.


  • the civil rights act of 1866 gave slaves and blacks citizenship rights now move along dumbass
Thanks for the info, but it means nothing after the ratification of our federal Constitution. Any natural born person in the US was a citizen by birth even if not recognized by extra-Constitutional laws at the time. States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization after 1808.
Civil rights act of 1866 gave slaves and blacks rights
or are you saying slaves had rights?
Unrecognized rights at law. Our Constitution is clear and is our supreme law of the land. It is also, both gender and race neutral from inception. We did not need a Civil War to enable them, only morals to faithfully execute our supreme law of the land.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them

I was simply pointing out that, like every totalitarian religion, the Nazis paid homage to the Democrat Party.
Right wingers were democrats back then. Lincoln was a republican.
I'm not a right winger I'm a Republican you're a lying sack of shit
You have nothing but right wing propaganda and rhetoric.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no, they weren't unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional
Yes, they were unConstitutional. Right wingers are simply hypocrites when they complain others don't, obey the laws.
  • Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court held that the US Constitution was not meant to include American citizenship for black people, regardless of whether they were enslaved or free, and so the rights and privileges that the Constitution confers upon American citizens could not apply to them.
A political five to four decision? Blacks were also created equal. And our federal Constitution was both gender and race neutral from Inception. They were born in the US and must have been citizens after 1808 since the States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization. The worst that should have happened was that blacks were naturalized if they were free or after emancipation.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no, they weren't unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional
Yes, they were unConstitutional. Right wingers are simply hypocrites when they complain others don't, obey the laws.
  • Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court held that the US Constitution was not meant to include American citizenship for black people, regardless of whether they were enslaved or free, and so the rights and privileges that the Constitution confers upon American citizens could not apply to them.
A political five to four decision? Blacks were also created equal. And our federal Constitution was both gender and race neutral from Inception. They were born in the US and must have been citizens after 1808 since the States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization. The worst that should have happened was that blacks were naturalized if they were free or after emancipation.
irrelevant blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them

I was simply pointing out that, like every totalitarian religion, the Nazis paid homage to the Democrat Party.
Right wingers were democrats back then. Lincoln was a republican.
I'm not a right winger I'm a Republican you're a lying sack of shit
You have nothing but right wing propaganda and rhetoric.
I have historical relevance to support what I have said you have nothing
Blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no, they weren't unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional
Yes, they were unConstitutional. Right wingers are simply hypocrites when they complain others don't, obey the laws.
  • Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court held that the US Constitution was not meant to include American citizenship for black people, regardless of whether they were enslaved or free, and so the rights and privileges that the Constitution confers upon American citizens could not apply to them.
A political five to four decision? Blacks were also created equal. And our federal Constitution was both gender and race neutral from Inception. They were born in the US and must have been citizens after 1808 since the States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization. The worst that should have happened was that blacks were naturalized if they were free or after emancipation.
irrelevant blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
Our Civil War should have never happened over slavery.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them

I was simply pointing out that, like every totalitarian religion, the Nazis paid homage to the Democrat Party.
Right wingers were democrats back then. Lincoln was a republican.
I'm not a right winger I'm a Republican you're a lying sack of shit
You have nothing but right wing propaganda and rhetoric.
I have historical relevance to support what I have said you have nothing
Blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
Only because it takes morals to faithfully execute our supreme Law of the land.
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them

I was simply pointing out that, like every totalitarian religion, the Nazis paid homage to the Democrat Party.
Right wingers were democrats back then. Lincoln was a republican.
I'm not a right winger I'm a Republican you're a lying sack of shit
You have nothing but right wing propaganda and rhetoric.
I have historical relevance to support what I have said you have nothing
Blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
Only because it takes morals to faithfully execute our supreme Law of the land.
You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no, they weren't unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional
Yes, they were unConstitutional. Right wingers are simply hypocrites when they complain others don't, obey the laws.
  • Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court held that the US Constitution was not meant to include American citizenship for black people, regardless of whether they were enslaved or free, and so the rights and privileges that the Constitution confers upon American citizens could not apply to them.
A political five to four decision? Blacks were also created equal. And our federal Constitution was both gender and race neutral from Inception. They were born in the US and must have been citizens after 1808 since the States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization. The worst that should have happened was that blacks were naturalized if they were free or after emancipation.
irrelevant blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
Our Civil War should have never happened over slavery.
all irrelevant wishful thinking blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no they were unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional

Perhaps this would be an appropriate time to point out that Hitler's Nazis proudly proclaimed that they based their laws on the Democrat Jim Crow laws.


  • 1.“…history of laws against miscegenation—interracial marriage or procreation—in the United States.

    Under the influence of Darwinism, racial science and an associated eugenics movement emerged in the late nineteenth century, grew with the Progressive movement, peaked in the 1920s, and disappeared during World War II. (Its enthusiastic embrace by Hitler did not help it…” The Race Against Race

    “The Germanic inhabitant of the American continent, who has remained racially pure and unmixed, rose to be master of the continent; he will remain the master as long as he does not fall a victim to defilement of the blood.”
    Adolph Hitler
    Untitled Document

  • 2. “At Nuremberg, the Nazis sought to preserve Nordic racial purity by outlawing racial intermarriage with Jews in much the same manner that Democratic anti-miscegenation laws outlawed racial intermarriage with blacks.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats



    3. Guess were Adolph got the idea for sterilization of ‘undesireables’???
  • “…Hitler learned from progressive sterilization laws that had been enacted in America through the influence of activists like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. “I have studied with great interest the laws of several American states concerning prevention of reproduction by people whose progeny would in all probability be of no value or be injurious to the racial stock.”
Hitler’s views—which closely parallel Sanger’s—provided the basis for the Nazi sterilization laws of 1933 which began by targeting “imbeciles” and the mentally retarded, and later expanded to cover Jews, gypsies, and other social undesirables.” Dinesh D’Souza: What Hitler Learned from the Democrats

  • Hitler wrote to the president of the American Eugenics Society to ask for a copy of his “The Case for Sterilization.”
    (Margaret Sanger and Sterilization)


  • 4. German race science stood on American progressive’s shoulders.
  • The Nazi Nuremberg Laws were taken nearly wholly from the Jim Crow Laws of the Democrat controlled South.

    In “Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law ,” by James Whitman, he shows how the Nazis took the Democrats’ Jim Crow Laws, simply changed the word ‘black’ and inserted the word ‘Jew.’
“Let’s remember that every segregation law in the South was passed by a Democratic legislature, signed by a Democratic governor, and enforced by Democratic officials. The Nuremberg team carefully studied these laws that were mainly aimed at blacks and used them to formulate their own racist legislation mainly aimed at Jews.”


  • 5. From the LATimes:
  • “At a crucial 1934 planning meeting for the Nuremberg system, the Minister of Justice presented a memorandum on American law. According to a transcript, he led a detailed discussion of miscegenation statutes from all over the United States. Moreover it is clear that the most radical Nazis were the most eager advocates of American practices. Roland Freisler, who would become president of the Nazi People's Court, declared that American jurisprudence "would suit us perfectly."
    When the Nazis wrote the Nuremberg laws, they looked to racist American statutes
Just correcting his wrong answer at the time Jim crow laws were constitutional not defending them

I was simply pointing out that, like every totalitarian religion, the Nazis paid homage to the Democrat Party.
Right wingers were democrats back then. Lincoln was a republican.
I'm not a right winger I'm a Republican you're a lying sack of shit
You have nothing but right wing propaganda and rhetoric.
I have historical relevance to support what I have said you have nothing
Blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
Only because it takes morals to faithfully execute our supreme Law of the land.
You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."


Just came upon this quote from David Baldacci's novel, 'The Guilty,' indicating what would have been the result without the 3/5 compromise:


"Blacks had constituted the majority of the population [of Mississippi] until the commencement of two mass migrations, first north and then west over the course of sixty years starting in 1910. The exodus was largely to get away from the oppressive effects of Jim Crow laws....."
page 33.
Jim Crow laws were unConstitutional. Right wingers simply don't care about natural rights or the Law, unlike what they allege in abortion or socialism threads.
no, they weren't unconstitutional when they were written you right wingers are delusional
Yes, they were unConstitutional. Right wingers are simply hypocrites when they complain others don't, obey the laws.
  • Sandford, 60 U.S. (19 How.) 393 (1857), was a landmark decision of the US Supreme Court in which the Court held that the US Constitution was not meant to include American citizenship for black people, regardless of whether they were enslaved or free, and so the rights and privileges that the Constitution confers upon American citizens could not apply to them.
A political five to four decision? Blacks were also created equal. And our federal Constitution was both gender and race neutral from Inception. They were born in the US and must have been citizens after 1808 since the States no longer had any authority over immigration or naturalization. The worst that should have happened was that blacks were naturalized if they were free or after emancipation.
irrelevant blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
Our Civil War should have never happened over slavery.
all irrelevant wishful thinking blacks and slaves did not have citizenship rights until the civil rights act of 1866
Civil war is worse than riots; thanks for letting us know you have no problem with that.
 

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