3/5 Of A Human Being

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."
 

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You know how the lying propagandists love to claim that the Founders didn't acknowledge the humanity of the slaves, and counted them as only 3/5 of a person for the census?

Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.



"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."






Well......the Democrats are using the same plan, but now that they own the judiciary, they get their way:

"Judges halt plan to exclude unauthorized immigrants from count used to award seats in Congress"




Why was it necessary......Obama just told them to go and vote: "When you vote, you're a citizen yourself."
One day i will understand you, then promptly jump
 

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Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.

"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."
Great post PoliticalChic!! ... :thup:
I never knew the "real" reason for the 3/5th's compromise.
 
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Of course, the truth is that the anti-slavers knew that the slave owners wanted to use the numbers to increase their political power in the Congress, and the abolitionists knew that if they did, slavery would never be abolished. So....the 3/5 compromise to get the union formed.

"Just three years after ratification, in the census of 1790, the numbers were determined according to the Constitution proscription of “adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years…three-fifths of all other Persons.”

Rather than this representing racial animus, this compromise prevented the South from having the representation to always outvote the North on the issue of slavery.

In 1790, the slave population of South Carolina was 77% of the white population. By 1820, slaves outnumbered whites, 265,000 to 237,000, and by 1860, 412,000 to 291,000. Georgia and Virginia, similarly."
Full text of "Heads of families at the first census of the United States taken in the year 1790 .."
Great post PoliticalChic!! ... :thup:
I never knew the "real" reason for the 3/5th's compromise.

A big 'Thank You,' Sunni.


Had the Founders not gotten that compromise, this sort of thing would be pro forma:


"The lynchings were Southern whites' extrajudicial efforts to maintain social control, white supremacy, and Democratic Party rule, ..... From 1882 to 1968, "...nearly 200 anti-lynching bills were introduced in Congress, and three passed the House. Seven presidents between 1890 and 1952 petitioned Congress to pass a federal law."[10] Not one bill was approved by the Senate because of the powerful opposition of the Southern Democratic voting block."
en.wikipedia.org

Dyer Anti-Lynching Bill - Wikipedia

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The people who wanted to count the slaves were their masters who wanted to keep them enslaved.

The people who want to count the illegals are the white people who want to keep them in the gray market of illegal work.


Don't be afraid to call 'em out.......it's always the Democrats.
 
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Illegals should not be counted at all for representation.

Yep, because the term "resident" means Citizen or legal resident alien.

Who the hell calls illegals aliens by the term illegal residents? Other than dumbasses in dirty black robes that is.
"Who the hell calls illegals aliens by the term illegal residents? Other than dumbasses in dirty black robes that is."

Hussein Obama and the Democrat Party.



And as proof that he is more Democrat, than interested in the advancement of black folks.....

Obama's US Civil Rights Commission, 2010 Report:
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights (Commission) is pleased to transmit this report, The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers. A panel of experts briefed members of the Commission on April 4, 2008 regarding the evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration. The panelists also described non-economic factors contributing to the depression of black wages and employment rates.

Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men."
USCCR: Page Not Found

https://www.usccr.gov/pubs/docs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf
 

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" No Representation For Non Jurisdiction Sojourners "

* Imagine Seeding A Foreign Country With Loyalist Agents *

The people who wanted to count the slaves were their masters who wanted to keep them enslaved.
The people who want to count the illegals are the white people who want to keep them in the gray market of illegal work.
The non jurisdiction sojourner is not enslaved and have objectives and social structures that do not include population control as a consideration , especially when having citizen children includes a stipend and a seeding of cause by familial citizens to rally numerical and political representation .

Irrespective of public policy for aggressive deportation of non jurisdiction sojourners to their country of origin , a non jurisdiction sojourner is not entitled from any numerical incidence to representation by a vote in any legislative body .

A census would only be useful to indicate where to target resources for the deportation of non jurisdiction sojourners .

* Stuck In The Middle Of Saying Know To Not Knot Make It Our Problem *

There are certainly enough economic libertarians willing to import non jurisdiction labor to lower wages and operating costs while offloading responsibilities of over population and its low socioeconomic conditions to the public .

There are also the secular humanists seeking to sacrifice taxpayer finances for saving the world by on boarding anyone from anywhere regardless of merit , intentionally lowering barriers to implement its authoritarian socialist controls for pilfering free enterprise and for implementing political correctness that it promotes by fomenting race based and class based conflicts .

* Jus Sanguinin For Children Of Non Jurisdiction Sojourners *

The " non jurisdiction " sojourner remains subject to jurisdiction by the country of its citizenship ; and , by not being a subject of a title in us legal immigration system an offspring of a non jurisdiction sojourner is to be provided birth to the country of maternal citizenship , by jus sanguinin .

While non violence principles for individualism is an ethical standard among hue mammon and a basis for liberty in social civil agreements for which one exchanges natural freedoms to become a citizen of a greater individual of state , to an extent , national sovereignty is individual sovereignty , and non jurisdiction sojourners can be deported .
 
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" No Representation For Non Jurisdiction Sojourners "

* Imagine Seeding A Foreign Country With Loyalist Agents *

The people who wanted to count the slaves were their masters who wanted to keep them enslaved.
The people who want to count the illegals are the white people who want to keep them in the gray market of illegal work.
The non jurisdiction sojourner is not enslaved and have objectives and social structures that do not include population control as a consideration , especially when having citizen children includes a stipend and a seeding of cause by familial citizens to rally numerical and political representation .

Irrespective of public policy for aggressive deportation of non jurisdiction sojourners to their country of origin , a non jurisdiction sojourner is not entitled from any numerical incidence to representation by a vote in any legislative body .

A census would only be useful to indicate where to target resources for the deportation of non jurisdiction sojourners .

* Stuck In The Middle Of Saying Know To Not Knot Make It Our Problem *

There are certainly enough economic libertarians willing to import non jurisdiction labor to lower wages and operating costs while offloading responsibilities of over population and its low socioeconomic conditions to the public .

There are also the secular humanists seeking to sacrifice taxpayer finances for saving the world by on boarding anyone from anywhere regardless of merit , intentionally lowering barriers to implement its authoritarian socialist controls for pilfering free enterprise and for implementing political correctness that it promotes by fomenting race based and class based conflicts .

* Jus Sanguinin For Children Of Non Jurisdiction Sojourners *

The " non jurisdiction " sojourner remains subject to jurisdiction by the country of its citizenship ; and , by not being a subject of a title in us legal immigration system an offspring of a non jurisdiction sojourner is to be provided birth to the country of maternal citizenship , by jus sanguinin .

While non violence principles for individualism is an ethical standard among hue mammon and a basis for liberty in social civil agreements for which one exchanges natural freedoms to become a citizen of a greater individual of state , to an extent , national sovereignty is individual sovereignty , and non jurisdiction sojourners can be deported .


I wish that were the case.

Here, we have Democrat Presidents who tell illegal aliens to go and vote in our elections.
 

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" Enforce Jus Sanguinin And Remit Social Subsistence Costs To Countries Of Citizenship Origin "

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That o ba ma promoted us citizens to vote for the interests of non jurisdiction migrants must necessarily imply that non jurisdiction migrants expect political persuasion for social entitlements of which they are not entitled to receive .

 

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" Enforce Jus Sanguinin And Remit Social Subsistence Costs To Countries Of Citizenship Origin "

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That o ba ma promoted us citizens to vote for the interests of non jurisdiction migrants must necessarily imply that non jurisdiction migrants expect political persuasion for social entitlements of which they are not entitled to receive .

Nothing but right wing bigotry. Who was he talking to? Y'all make it seem like he was only talking to illegals instead of the electorate.
 
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" Enforce Jus Sanguinin And Remit Social Subsistence Costs To Countries Of Citizenship Origin "

* No Subscription For Open Source Seekers *

That o ba ma promoted us citizens to vote for the interests of non jurisdiction migrants must necessarily imply that non jurisdiction migrants expect political persuasion for social entitlements of which they are not entitled to receive .

American taxpayer would pay for illegal alien's healthcare

 

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There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution and we should have no illegal problem or illegal underclass; and, we should be making money off of foreign nationals in the US not losing money.

Too bad right wingers only have bigotry not any solutions that promote the general welfare.

Vote blue not red!
 

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