24 Hours? How about 1330 Hours have passed and no end to the Russian/Ukraine war! Trump Con?

And that's where the wheels fall off your tricycle. Putin wins "no matter what deal is done" reveals to all that you have no interest in stopping the killing because TRUMP! will get credit for brokering peace, and you'd rather have people keep dying than allow that to happen.
Hey FACTS ARE FACTS. You want to live in Trump's ego fantasy world? It won't work in reality.

Fact is that you can't have a good resolution by punishing the bullied and giving the bully what he wants. Fact is that Trump is doing this exactly.....................and YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR THIS?

My gawd, you truly have your head buried in Trump's ass
 
Hypocrite lefties defended Biden's incompetence for four years and they expect Trump to perform miracles in 50 days but they never apologize.
 
Why do we even need world leaders to agree to a plan when all we need are some random internet keyboard jockeys who have read enough headlines to know "He good" and "You bad"? To stop a war, you either kill enough of the enemy and break enough of his stuff that he gives up while you still have your stuff and more manpower, or you negotiate terms that gives both sides some of what they want and stops the killing. If the Zman doesn't like the terms he's free to propose his own, and I would expect him to.
This has nothing to do with me. This is human nature. This is what narcissistic sociopaths (both Trump and Putin) think and do.

You ignoring it will not change reality.
 
Hey FACTS ARE FACTS. You want to live in Trump's ego fantasy world? It won't work in reality.

Fact is that you can't have a good resolution by punishing the bullied and giving the bully what he wants. Fact is that Trump is doing this exactly.....................and YOU WANT TO GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR THIS?

My gawd, you truly have your head buried in Trump's ass
The soldiers that get to go home to their families and stop dying on the battlefield would disagree. And the facts on the ground are that Zman isn't in a very strong position to negotiate and shouldn't act like he is, unless he somehow thinks he has Russia on the ropes and is just hastening their inevitable retreat. Do you think he's in that position?
 
This has nothing to do with me. This is human nature. This is what narcissistic sociopaths (both Trump and Putin) think and do.

You ignoring it will not change reality.
What's the alternative, go back to Quid Pro Joe's plan, which was to feed one side of the conflict with enough money and munitions to keep the soldiers dying?
 
Hypocrite lefties defended Biden's incompetence for four years and they expect Trump to perform miracles in 50 days but they never apologize.
Biden Incompetence?

According to most estimates, every day of the war in Ukraine costs Russia $500 million to $1 billion. Russia faced a record shortage of factory workers in July 2023, with more than 43% of industrial enterprises facing a shortage, up from 35% in April.

Russian Costs of War​

Humanitarian impact: displacement, civilian deaths, veteran crime:

  • Civilian losses: at least 388 individuals killed inside Russia as of December 2024.
  • Internal displacement: At least 120,000 fled from Russia’s Kursk region alone (estimate in October 2024) with 3,000 staying to live in the Ukrainian-controlled parts of this region (estimate in February 2025). This internal population displacement and criticism of the authorities’ handling of these individuals’ plight creates additional social and political pressure on Putin’s regime.
  • External displacement: 800,000 emigrated for economic or political reasons, 0.6% of Russian population.
  • Violent crimes by veterans, including offenses committed by convicts who were released from jail on the condition that they would join combat on the Russian side for 6 months or more: at least 1,500 fell victims of these crimes at hands of veterans with 242 persons killed and 227 suffering grave bodily injures (estimate in September 2024).
Military personnel losses: Estimates of the number of Russian servicemen killed or wounded or missing vary, but most recent estimates show casualties of 700,000 or more, for a daily rate of 670 casualties, which is 50% less than the lower estimate of the casualties suffered by the PLA during the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979, a comparable conflict.
 

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The soldiers that get to go home to their families and stop dying on the battlefield would disagree. And the facts on the ground are that Zman isn't in a very strong position to negotiate and shouldn't act like he is, unless he somehow thinks he has Russia on the ropes and is just hastening their inevitable retreat. Do you think he's in that position?
Hold on a second. Zelenski and Ukraine have not been involved in any kind of peace agreement. Don't you think it is their decision that counts?
 
What's the alternative, go back to Quid Pro Joe's plan, which was to feed one side of the conflict with enough money and munitions to keep the soldiers dying?
It is not my decision to make. It is Zelenski and Ukraine's decisions to make. Have they even been involved in the decisions already made?
 
Here it is clear as a bell



Trump repeatedly said that he could end the Russian/Ukrainian war in 24 hours.

Now and after 1304 hours of failure, he says this:


Can anyone believe what Trump says and promises?




Trump Trump Trump

Russia Russia Russia

Putin Putin Putin


see? the Neverending story :biggrin:
 
Nordream II never went live, never transmitted anything and has cost Russia billions of dollars.

How does blowing billions of dollars on a project that got killed off as soon as they invaded "give Putin money"?

Where do you pick up such stupid nonsense?
It was operational till someone blew it up.
 
As usual Q-NUT, you're FOS.

Muskrat, like your dear leader is a trust fund baby.
Like your dear leader stole ideas, then called them his own.
Screwed people, then claimed to be a great "business" men.

They deserve each other, two scum bags, with welfare $$$ from the "Gubmint" they despise.
Lol, it was you loons buying up Tesla's till a couple months ago. Sorry your money gave him this power!
 
Really?
So what is going to be divided in Israel?
The US has given them 10 times as much and they aren't even the size of New Jersey.
Israel should move to Northern California....
Same climate plenty of room.
Gaza cannot be reformed it will always seek war.
 
No, Trump is bullying Zelenski and wants to gain points with Putin. Putin has the upper hand because of Trump. Putin wins and everyone loses, no matter what deal is done.


Ok. Got it.

That of course makes no sense, and it is not happening, and isn't going to happen, so, you are immediately wrong, as Putin is losing, right now and will continue to do so.

Putin can refuse to cut a deal and keep russia bleeding, or he can come to terms, and cut his losses.


Those are his only choices.

My prediction is that he will come to terms, within several weeks.
 
Ok. Got it.

That of course makes no sense, and it is not happening, and isn't going to happen, so, you are immediately wrong, as Putin is losing, right now and will continue to do so.

Putin can refuse to cut a deal and keep russia bleeding, or he can come to terms, and cut his losses.


Those are his only choices.

My prediction is that he will come to terms, within several weeks.
You are entitled to you OPINION
 
Here it is clear as a bell



Trump repeatedly said that he could end the Russian/Ukrainian war in 24 hours.

Now and after 1304 hours of failure, he says this:


Can anyone believe what Trump says and promises?

How many hours did the war rage on Biden’s watch, Luckyone ?
 
Biden Incompetence?

According to most estimates, every day of the war in Ukraine costs Russia $500 million to $1 billion. Russia faced a record shortage of factory workers in July 2023, with more than 43% of industrial enterprises facing a shortage, up from 35% in April.

Russian Costs of War

Humanitarian impact: displacement, civilian deaths, veteran crime:
  • Civilian losses: at least 388 individuals killed inside Russia as of December 2024.
  • Internal displacement: At least 120,000 fled from Russia’s Kursk region alone (estimate in October 2024) with 3,000 staying to live in the Ukrainian-controlled parts of this region (estimate in February 2025). This internal population displacement and criticism of the authorities’ handling of these individuals’ plight creates additional social and political pressure on Putin’s regime.
  • External displacement: 800,000 emigrated for economic or political reasons, 0.6% of Russian population.
  • Violent crimes by veterans, including offenses committed by convicts who were released from jail on the condition that they would join combat on the Russian side for 6 months or more: at least 1,500 fell victims of these crimes at hands of veterans with 242 persons killed and 227 suffering grave bodily injures (estimate in September 2024).
Military personnel losses: Estimates of the number of Russian servicemen killed or wounded or missing vary, but most recent estimates show casualties of 700,000 or more, for a daily rate of 670 casualties, which is 50% less than the lower estimate of the casualties suffered by the PLA during the Sino-Vietnamese War of 1979, a comparable conflict.
So you cheer hundreds of thousands of deaths cuz Putin has to spend money.

You are one sick puppy.
 
To be clear, you are suggesting that Trump will accept a deal where Putin gets to annex ALL of the ukraine?

That is your serious position, what you are predicting to be his FINAL position on the peace deal?

Let me make something very clear to you: Trump doesn't give two shits about who runs Ukraine.

All he cares about is making a deal to brag about and if he could make Ukraine to fully roll over for Russia he would declare it a "big win for peace"

You can listen what he not-thinks about security guarantees for Ukraine:



You hear that? He is seriously saying that if a deal is made Putin won't go back to fighting. Not because of any security guarantees that will deter him, but you know..because Trump imagines it.
 
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Let me make something very clear to you: Trump doesn't give two shits about who runs Ukraine.
All he cares about is making a deal to brag about.

You can listen what he not-thinks about security guarantees for Ukraine:




Yes, I got that that is your position.,

NOw, as we move forward and can see that it is not true, you will have to deal with that.
 
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