24 Hours? How about 1330 Hours have passed and no end to the Russian/Ukraine war! Trump Con?

Your claim that Trump is on PUtin's side.

Trump is bleeding russia to death.


That makes your claim, and the fact that you are still standing by it, clearly retarded.
From Reuters:

Exclusive: US suspends some efforts to counter Russian sabotage as Trump moves closer to Putin

  • Biden administration had established working groups to monitor escalating Russian hybrid war efforts
  • Under Trump, NSC has stopped holding regular meetings with European officials on Russian sabotage, sources say
  • Trump's embrace of Moscow stirs fears of Ukraine truce favorable to Russia among current, former officials
NEW YORK/BERLIN, March 19 (Reuters) - Several U.S. national security agencies have halted work on a coordinated effort to counter Russian sabotage, disinformation and cyberattacks, easing pressure on Moscow as the Trump Administration pushes Russia to end its war in Ukraine.

However, since Trump took office on Jan. 20 much of the work has come to a standstill, according to eleven current and former officials, all of whom requested anonymity to discuss classified matters. Reuters is the first to report on the full extent of the Biden administration effort and how multiple different U.S. agencies have since paused their work on the issue.

Bleeding Russia, right?
 
It's dumb beyond imagining, for a lib, well, anyone at this point, to pretend to not be aware of Trump's use of hyperbole.

You mean use of lies. Lies are what they are by any standard definition, and he's told over 10,000 of them in just his first term alone.

By NOT including that as a precondition for negotiations. Really, I see no connection between my saying that that is a bad precondition and your question.

Then he's simply beginning from the point of weakness. Drumpf always becomes weak in the knees whenever he has to deal with despots and dictators. It's only his closest allies that he begins to find courage and start puffing up his chest. This is the classic profile of your every day bully.

I'm not sure how you can say, " he just wants t make a deal for minerals".

THat makes no sense. You just made that up.

Drumpf even said that the minerals was just a repayment and he won't be adding any further military assistance after. Of course he just wanted a deal for minerals.

Nope. I don't really think that is true. I think that if Putin wraps things up soon, and presents it as a win, with holding on to say, the territory they have already taken, that he will survive fine enough.

He's decimated his army, his economy and lost part of Kursk, all for just 20% of Ukraine? That's complete failure. Not to mention, sanctions will likely continue to be in place even after the war. But this is a moot point because Ukraine will never disarm as part of any "peace deal" and Russia will continue fighting as long as that is the case.

How are you not?



That is just partisan shit talk from a lefty. Your inability to engage seriously, is kind of sad.

What part of Trump's history, his personality and demeanor suggests he's not the slimy underhanded backstabbing individual I just described? We just beared witness to him freezing military aid and intelligence to Ukraine, our ally, which directly helped our enemies bomb the shit out of them because their defenses were down. It doesn't get worse than that and you're saying that me calling that out for what it is, is partisan shit talk? Your inability to acknowledge this is truly what is sad, because it shows a complete and utter lack of awareness of what's going on. Trump has even done this in the past with the Afghan pullout. There's actually an interesting story of betrayal behind that as well.

IN the real world, PUtin is stuck in a meatgrinder, and Trump has tremendous leverage over him.

Your inabily to be honest about this, is pathetic of you.

Trump only goes after allies, not his enemies. Look at how he used to betray all his friends. It's simply in his blood. He'll do what Putin wants.
 
From Reuters:

Exclusive: US suspends some efforts to counter Russian sabotage as Trump moves closer to Putin

  • Biden administration had established working groups to monitor escalating Russian hybrid war efforts
  • Under Trump, NSC has stopped holding regular meetings with European officials on Russian sabotage, sources say
  • Trump's embrace of Moscow stirs fears of Ukraine truce favorable to Russia among current, former officials
NEW YORK/BERLIN, March 19 (Reuters) - Several U.S. national security agencies have halted work on a coordinated effort to counter Russian sabotage, disinformation and cyberattacks, easing pressure on Moscow as the Trump Administration pushes Russia to end its war in Ukraine.

However, since Trump took office on Jan. 20 much of the work has come to a standstill, according to eleven current and former officials, all of whom requested anonymity to discuss classified matters. Reuters is the first to report on the full extent of the Biden administration effort and how multiple different U.S. agencies have since paused their work on the issue.

Bleeding Russia, right?


Yep. Bleeding russia to death.

You can whine about... shit. But as long as the fighting continues Russia is being bleed to death.

The rest is just shit talk from leftards.


This proves that the leftard position that Trump is on putin's side, is incredibly stupid. The type of stupid that wears a helmut and eats paste.

To be clear, your ideas are retarded. Completely retarded.
 
You mean use of lies. Lies are what they are by any standard definition, and he's told over 10,000 of them in just his first term alone.
I used the word I meant to use. And I explained it.

Your refusal to address my actual point, is you running it, because you know you lost the debate already.


Then he's simply beginning from the point of weakness. Drumpf always becomes weak in the knees whenever he has to deal with despots and dictators. It's only his closest allies that he begins to find courage and start puffing up his chest. This is the classic profile of your every day bully.

PUtin has lost 200k men. That is him being in a position of weakness. He is the one that has ruined his nation's army and greatly harmed a generation of his nation's young men.

You are a fool.


Drumpf even said that the minerals was just a repayment and he won't be adding any further military assistance after. Of course he just wanted a deal for minerals.

Nothing you said there, really connected the way you pretended it did. Characterizing the deal as a repayment, in no way supports your claim that it is "all he cares about".

DId you forget the point you were trying to make? Or did you just completely fail to make any sense?


He's decimated his army, his economy and lost part of Kursk, all for just 20% of Ukraine? That's complete failure.

Correct.

Not to mention, sanctions will likely continue to be in place even after the war. But this is a moot point because Ukraine will never disarm as part of any "peace deal" and Russia will continue fighting as long as that is the case.

If you are correct, then you get what you wanted, ie endless war. So, why are you acting like someone took your favorite doll?

Your arguments don't make any sense.


What part of Trump's history, his personality and demeanor suggests he's not the slimy underhanded backstabbing individual I just described? We just beared witness to him freezing military aid and intelligence to Ukraine, our ally, which directly helped our enemies bomb the shit out of them because their defenses were down. It doesn't get worse than that and you're saying that me calling that out for what it is, is partisan shit talk? Your inability to acknowledge this is truly what is sad, because it shows a complete and utter lack of awareness of what's going on. Trump has even done this in the past with the Afghan pullout. There's actually an interesting story of betrayal behind that as well.

The fact that his stated motivation is to save lives, while you lefties are happy to spend them for political reasons.

That makes him an infinitely better person than ALL of you.


Trump only goes after allies, not his enemies. Look at how he used to betray all his friends. It's simply in his blood. He'll do what Putin wants.

Except, that until he agrees to a ceasefire, the weapons flow and russia is bleeding to death.

YOur claims are clearly false. Like retarded false.
 
QUOTE ME.

What I said was Trump doesn't give a shit who runs Ukraine.

He is always on Trump's side first and foremost. If he has any princples at all, it's that. Being explicitly on Putin's side would be politically very bad for him and it doesn't even matter.

What matters is WHAT HE DOES and so far it has added up to only downsides for Urkaine, only upsides for Putin.


You demand that I quote you, about your position being that "Trump is on putin's side".

And then you immediately assert that Trump is on putins side and make a very strong, though insanely stupid argument, to support your assertion.

This is, so far, the most retarded post I have ever seen a leftard make. ANd let me tell you, you have some serious, and strong competition for that prize.
 
Yep. Bleeding russia to death.

You can whine about... shit. But as long as the fighting continues Russia is being bleed to death. DUE TO BIDEN, Trump has not added any new sanctions or obstacles.

The rest is just shit talk from leftards.


This proves that the leftard position that Trump is on putin's side, is incredibly stupid. The type of stupid that wears a helmut and eats paste.

To be clear, your ideas are retarded. Completely retarded.
 
Yep. Bleeding russia to death.

You can whine about... shit. But as long as the fighting continues Russia is being bleed to death. DUE TO BIDEN, Trump has not added any new sanctions or obstacles.

The rest is just shit talk from leftards.


This proves that the leftard position that Trump is on putin's side, is incredibly stupid. The type of stupid that wears a helmut and eats paste.

To be clear, your ideas are retarded. Completely retarded.

So?
 
The offer of a ceasefire is on the table. He bullied zelenski into agreeing. The weapons are flowing to put pressure on Putin.

Trump has done his part. Now, Putin has to come to terms with his losing and cut a face saving deal.
But, but the war goes on! In conclusion, you & your fellow MAGA travellers have been had by the biggest conman in history. The guy lies as much as other people breathe.

How's that feel? :cul2:
 
Maybe Russia will use a tactical nuke and you lefty TDS cult fucks can jerk off all over yourselves.
Here's Trump's plan for Ukraine & our NATO allies;
 

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But, but the war goes on! In conclusion, you & your fellow MAGA travellers have been had by the biggest conman in history. The guy lies as much as other people breathe.

How's that feel? :cul2:

Um, what you just said there, made no sense.

Trump has done what he can to make a peace deal. he has played his hand, and now the ball is in putin's court.


I am fine with this so far. Indeed, I am shocked how quicky zelenski caved.

And I expect Putin to come to terms soon enough.

YOU are the one that is acting strangely. YOu WANT the war to continue, and it is, right now, yet you are acting like this is a failure or a reason for you to be outraged.


you are not making much sense.
 
Um, what you just said there, made no sense.

Trump has done what he can to make a peace deal. he has played his hand, and now the ball is in putin's court.


I am fine with this so far. Indeed, I am shocked how quicky zelenski caved.

And I expect Putin to come to terms soon enough.

YOU are the one that is acting strangely. YOu WANT the war to continue, and it is, right now, yet you are acting like this is a failure or a reason for you to be outraged.


you are not making much sense.
I do not want the war to continue, nor do I want Trump to sell our ally Ukraine down the river to his pal, Putin. Which is what he's going to do.
 
I do not want the war to continue,

Sure you do. Trump was the peace candidate who was and is going to make a peace deal, and Harris was the endless war candidate.

You supported endless war.


So, the war is still going on. So why are you acting like someone kicked you in the girls parts?



nor do I want Trump to sell our ally Ukraine down the river to his pal, Putin. Which is what he's going to do.

Except that the reality is clear, that he is continuing at this point, to continue the bleeding of russia. So, your claim is false. And retarded. The moment you make it.

Your denial of reality is dumb. ANd makes you look like a fool.

So, what's the point of spewing complete nonsense?
 
You demand that I quote you, about your position being that "Trump is on putin's side".

And then you immediately assert that Trump is on putins side and make a very strong, though insanely stupid argument, to support your assertion.

This is, so far, the most retarded post I have ever seen a leftard make. ANd let me tell you, you have some serious, and strong competition for that prize.

….?

I think I’ve confused you for someone with at least half a brain.

My mistake.
 
….?

I think I confused you for someone with at least half a brain.

My mistake.


The idiocy of your post, is clear. You can play silly games, but, it's right there.
 
The idiocy of your post, is clear. You can play silly games, but, it's right there.

The idiocy is in you not being able to understand what you read.

I can’t fix or reason with that.
 
Sure you do. Trump was the peace candidate who was and is going to make a peace deal, and Harris was the endless war candidate.

You supported endless war.


So, the war is still going on. So why are you acting like someone kicked you in the girls parts?





Except that the reality is clear, that he is continuing at this point, to continue the bleeding of russia. So, your claim is false. And retarded. The moment you make it.

Your denial of reality is dumb. ANd makes you look like a fool.

So, what's the point of spewing complete nonsense?
You're the one spewing nonsense. But nice try gaslighting Trump's claim that he'd end the war in 24 hours.

Just can't admit that you've played for a fool, can you? You must be used to it by now.
 
The idiocy is in you not being able to understand what you read.

I can’t fix or reason with that.

I understood fine. YOu demanded I prove that you said something.

Then you immediately said it again.



That's the most retarded post I have ever seen.
 
You're the one spewing nonsense. But nice try gaslighting Trump's claim that he'd end the war in 24 hours.

And again, you're acting as though you are upset that he failed to make peace in 24 hours, when your policy goal was endless war.

That makes no sense. You should be angry that he is making peace. Indeed, I think that that is why you are angry.

You are upset because he is making peace, when you want endless war.





Just can't admit that you've played for a fool, can you? You must be used to it by now.


I see him making a good faith effort at peace. That is good enough for me.


I want a good deal, more than I want a quick one.


It is bullshit of you to try to pretend to care about how fast he makes peace, when you oppose peace.

You are a shit talker.
 
I understood fine. YOu demanded I prove that you said something.

Then you immediately said it again.



That's the most retarded post I have ever seen.

What I said was that Trump doesn’t give a shit who runs Ukraine.

That in itself makes him “on Putin’s side” no more than on Zelenskyy side.

You just don’t understand what you read.
 
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