2025 Deficit comes in at 1.97 Trillion. This Is Way Out of Hand

[kyzr]

....there is just no fixing your sort of stupid.
It's all just one brain fart theory after another to service your primitive political bias.

You're just stupid.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You are right, up .61 since April and down from Biden’s last day at 3.0%.

And rising, because of Trump's hyperinflationary policies.

We are flirting with stagflation, which is no bueno.

And all of it is from unforced errors.

 

[Papageorgio]

And rising, because of Trump's hyperinflationary policies.

We are flirting with stagflation, which is no bueno.

And all of it is from unforced errors.

We’ll see, we were in two quarters of contraction a couple years ago and even though the definition of a recession was there, according to the spin, it wasn’t. So far we will see where the tariffs get us, and all tariffs are not bad. We are the worlds largest buy and we need to leverage that advantage.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

We’ll see, we were in two quarters of contraction a couple years ago and even though the definition of a recession was there, according to the spin, it wasn’t.

Because the definition is not that simple. Thats why we have a committee of hypereducated people who analyze whether or not a recession is occurring, instead of just a simple switch in a circuit triggered by an algorithm.

We are the worlds largest buy and we need to leverage that advantage.

Which we do every single day to get cheaper goods. Another reason the tariffs are so bloody stupid.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Well.....this is great news.

The 2025 deficit was 1.97 trillion. Total revenue was 4.69 trillion which means our deficit was 42% of total revenue and 29.5% of total spending.

I don't have an actual figure, but you can count on 1 trillion of spending on debt servicing alone. 1 FREAKING TRILLION.

In 2024 the deficit was 1.83 trillion.

AND NOBODY CARES (in government).

This is beyond reprehensible.

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Total debt is 37.3 trillion. We'll be over 40 before Trump leaves.

We are selling our kids down the river.

Why don't the Democrats allow a cull of government employees and various departments/programmes etc.. then?

Why do Democrats and Left wing judges fight everything then twine about the deficit??

 

[HikerGuy83]

Why don't the Democrats allow a cull of government employees and various departments/programmes etc.. then?

Why do Democrats and Left wing judges fight everything then twine about the deficit??

They only whine about deficits when they need ammo to go after the other guy.

Biden's deficits were huge. You know "Bidenomics was working" and all that.

If the GOP might get credit for it, they'll fight it.

They are in desperation mode.

 

[g5000]

Trump just gave them the biggest tax cut in history

This is a flat out lie, you poor parroting rube.

Ronald Reagan enacted the largest tax cut in history.

If Donald Trump told you his shit tastes like candy, you'd order a pound and pay a premium.


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[Hurricanelover]

Where in the living **** is it going?

It isn't going to infrastructure, science, education or the little guy! It is going to elites.

 

[Dragonlady]

Inflation isn’t going up, we have hovered around 2.4- 3% it was at 3% when Biden left office and the latest is 2.9%. Deporting people that are here illegally need to be deported. If you want to come here legally, the door is open if you want to be here illegally, and not respect our laws and our country, then good bye.

Biden’s trade deficit in his last month of office was $131.4 billion in July it was $78.3 billion.

So I am not sure where you pull numbers from but as usual they are way off and are the complete opposite of what you claim.

I pull my numbers from the federal government websites.

Inflation, job creation and trade data.

Trade deficits

International Trade

www.census.gov

Jobs

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

data.bls.gov

Inflation - notice it was going straight down until Trump took office

12-month percentage change, Consumer Price Index, selected categories

www.bls.gov

.61%, yeah you got me! Still under Biden leaving us at 3.0% and at that time you guys said that was nothing.

Nice set of right wing lies and bullshit you’ve got going on there.

Inflation was steadily coming down after Biden dealt with the poison pill of lowered oil production which lead to higher oil prices when the pandemic ended.

That reduction stalled when Trump took office and put tariffs on everything and started his purges. Even the price of gas is going up. It’s up over $1 a gallon since Trump took office.

U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)

But keep drinking that Kool-Aid and thinking Trump isn’t destroying your economy.

 

[IM2]

So you are taking Biden's 2025 CBO scoring and projections and adding the CBO's 2026 "new" scoring for the BBB and adding them together. That is just plain wrong. Biden's budget projections are separate from the new BBB budget projections.

Wrong.

 

[AntonToo]

.61%, yeah you got me! Still under Biden leaving us at 3.0% and at that time you guys said that was nothing.

Economics are not about personas, it’s about the policy.

Inflation has been consistently increasing since major tariff hikes, that’s a fact. You can’t just make things 200 billion more expensive to deliver to market without increasing prices.

 

[Papageorgio]

I pull my numbers from the federal government websites.

Inflation, job creation and trade data.

Trade deficits

International Trade

www.census.gov

Jobs

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

data.bls.gov

Inflation - notice it was going straight down until Trump took office

12-month percentage change, Consumer Price Index, selected categories

www.bls.gov

Nice set of right wing lies and bullshit you’ve got going on there.

Inflation was steadily coming down after Biden dealt with the poison pill of lowered oil production which lead to higher oil prices when the pandemic ended.

That reduction stalled when Trump took office and put tariffs on everything and started his purges. Even the price of gas is going up. It’s up over $1 a gallon since Trump took office.

U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon)

But keep drinking that Kool-Aid and thinking Trump isn’t destroying your economy.

My sources aren’t rightwing, January 2025, inflation 3.0%, August 2025 2.9%

Current U.S. Inflation Rates: 2000-2026

The annual inflation rate in the United States was 2.4% for the 12 months ending January, down from 2.7% previously, according to U.S. Labor Department data released February 13, 2026. The next update is scheduled for March 11 at 8:30 a.m. ET and will cover the 12 months ending February. Below...

www.usinflationcalculator.com

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/08/05/trade-deficit-shrinks-june-2025

Idiot!

 

[Papageorgio]

Economics are not about personas, it’s about the policy.

Inflation has been consistently increasing since major tariff hikes, that’s a fact. You can’t just make things 200 billion more expensive to deliver to market without increasing prices.

Right except Biden’s inflation was not policy it was Trumps fault. lol.

What’s amusing is left wingnuts used phrases such as transitional and then when that bluff was called they switched to but…but…Trump! Spare me, we knew inflation would happen with tariffs but we need to use our position to attack the unfair tariffs.

 

[AntonToo]

Right except Biden’s inflation was not policy it was Trumps fault. lol.

I don't know wtf you are talking about, or what post-Covid inflation it has to do with refuting what you've quoted.

Come on back when you can have a discussion with me, not some lefties living in your head.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why don't the Democrats allow a cull of government employees and various departments/programmes etc.. then?

They have and will again. They just don't think it should be done by ketamine addicted incel edgelords using their AI girlfriends or a criminal president whose only standard for it is harming Americans he sees as disloyal to himself.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Right except Biden’s inflation was not policy it was Trumps fault. lol.

" Biden's inflation" was a global phenomenon.

And the US was the top performing modern economy against the global inflation. Thanks, Joe!

"Trump's inflation" is the direct result of his idiotic, hyperinflationary policies.

Spot the difference.

 

[JoeB131]

When you say "cut entitlements" I assume you mean Welfare and Medicaid.
Because SS and Medicare were earned and paid for.
SS needs ages raised and the cap raised to "fix it"
Medicare needs to be fixed.

If you retire at 65 and live to be 72, you will get back everything you paid into Social Security. It's why half of SS taxes are paid for by employers, not employees.

 

[kyzr]

If you retire at 65 and live to be 72, you will get back everything you paid into Social Security. It's why half of SS taxes are paid for by employers, not employees.

Bullshit.
You need to look at the time value of money over your working life. The 1980 dollars we paid in were worth much more than the 2025 inflated dollars we're getting back. 7-years of SS benefits is not equivalent to the $722,000 paid in per the example below in uniform "adjusted" 2012 dollars.

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According to the institute’s data, a two-earner couple receiving an average wage — $44,600 per spouse in 2012 dollars — and turning 65 in 2010 would have paid $722,000 into Social Security and Medicare and can be expected to take out $966,000 in benefits. So, this couple will be paid about one-third more in benefits than they paid in taxes.

 

[JoeB131]

Bullshit.
You need to look at the time value of money over your working life. The 1980 dollars we paid in were worth much more than the 2025 inflated dollars we're getting back. 7-years of SS benefits is not equivalent to the $722,000 paid in per the example below in uniform "adjusted" 2012 dollars.

Okay, the money you made in 1980 might have appreciated in value.

Or it might have gotten wiped out in the 1987 crash.
Or the 2001 Crash
Or the 2008 Crash.

Social Security was never meant to be an investment plan, but a safety net in case your investments fell flat.

The reason why it isn't affordable as currently structured is that we are all living well into our 80s now, as opposed to when it was first introduced; most people didn't live past 65.

 

[kyzr]

Okay, the money you made in 1980 might have appreciated in value.

FACT

$1 in 1980 → 2026 | Inflation Calculator

The 3.03% inflation rate means $1 in 1980 is equivalent to $3.95 today. This inflation calculator uses the official US consumer price index published by the Department of Labor.

www.in2013dollars.com

"$1 in 1980 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $3.93 today, an increase of $2.93 over 45 years. The dollar had an average inflation rate of 3.09% per year between 1980 and today, producing a cumulative price increase of 293.17%."

Or it might have gotten wiped out in the 1987 crash. Or the 2001 Crash. Or the 2008 Crash.

Nope. The Federal government "borrowed" from the SS Trust Fund. Now it needs to pay it back. Google it.
"Since 1983, every U.S. President has borrowed from Social Security to fund government expenditures, with estimates suggesting that around $1.37 trillion of Social Security surplus revenue has been used, although the exact amount varies by administration."

Social Security was never meant to be an investment plan, but a safety net in case your investments fell flat.

True, stupid but true. SS should have been 60/40 in the stock market vs bonds instead of 100% low-interest bonds.

The reason why it isn't affordable as currently structured is that we are all living well into our 80s now, as opposed to when it was first introduced; most people didn't live past 65.

True. SS has been "fixed" several times already, and needs to be fixed again.
The scarier problem now is the declining birth rate, and family formation which looks bad for the long term.
It may mean individual IRAs from birth invested 60/40 in the stock market via the SSA.