20 young girls missing in a flood from a Texas Summer camp.

[d0gbreath]

Damn, it rose 26' in 45 minutes!

I had to listen to it twice to make sure that's what I heard.

Four months of rain in four hours caught my attention.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Thoughts and prayers
Climate change is real

Aaaaand, you go to ignore land.

Buh-buy.

 

[Twisted Gypsy Child]

Aaaaand, you go to ignore land.

Buh-buy.

truth hurts

 

[Foxfyre]

If others have posted this fairly recent story of the NY Post I apologize. But it does have a lot of information. Too many lives lost for sure. If they rebuild the camp, I certainly hope they put some safeguards and a warning system in place.

Hearts and prayers go out to all those who have lost loved ones or who may have lost loved ones and are still dealing with both hope and despair.

Death toll in catastrophic Texas flooding rises to 51, including 15 children and 28 adults, officials say

15 children and 28 adults are among the dead.

nypost.com

 

[odanny]

It happened at night, with no warning, and the river rose over 20 feet in one hour?

People are going to die when that happens, unless it happens during the day and a warning for intense rain and flash flooding goes out. I'm not sure anyone could have prepared for this weather event. I really don't know.

 

[Picaro]

Looked at a terrain map of the camp area; they probably felt safe and on 'high ground relative to the river and creek there,maybe 10-12 feet above that level, never expecting a 20 foot rise. Some areas along there peaked early today at 37 feet down river.

 

[elektra]

Yes. You would think they would move to high ground, but herding so many kids around can make it hard to concentrate and they probably just wore out and forgot by the end of the day. It did rise pretty fast, and in the dark, though. Scouts are taught not to make camp in gullies or right beside rivers and creeks here in Texas, but there are lot s of newcomers who aren't yet tuned into the weather extremes here and how fast it changes, or just not experienced outdoors types.

Sad story, hope they're all safe.

Maybe the adults are democrats from California that invaded Austin. California's democrats got little understanding of rain

 

[whitehall]

It's freaking horrifying but what's worse is trying to turn the tragedy into a political issue.

 

[Picaro]

That camp had 750 girls along with staff at it. Along with just people camping on the river I would think there was 2000 people at the river when the flood happen.
Green-roofed cabins housing hundreds of campers and staff dotted the area, which is lush with cypress and live oak trees. This summer, Camp Mystic hosted 750 girls between 7 and 17 years old

Looking at a terrain map, most of the camp's main buildings are up on a hill in the bend at 1,800' or so; there are flood plains down by the river and creeks there, though, which is probably where some of the camp sites were. Google Maps has layers you can check out to get a feel for the area.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

It happened at night, with no warning, and the river rose over 20 feet in one hour?

People are going to die when that happens, unless it happens during the day and a warning for intense rain and flash flooding goes out. I'm not sure anyone could have prepared for this weather event. I really don't know.

Amen to this and not just floods can happen. Two days after my 20th birthday in 2002, I was hit by lightning during a nighttime storm. July 2nd was the unforgettable day. Five years ago, a tree in my back yard was struck during another nighttime storm. About three or four trees all together in my back yard have come down in the last five years. Thankfully, none of them ever landed on my house. One of them did however cover my whole backyard just about.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

 

[odanny]

Imagine you're asleep in your RV and it feels like it's floating. Then you wake up and find out it is.

 

[Paddlefoot]

Looking at a terrain map, most of the camp's main buildings are up on a hill in the bend at 1,800' or so; there are flood plains down by the river and creeks there, though, which is probably where some of the camp sites were. Google Maps has layers you can check out to get a feel for the area.

That camp with 750 girls and at least 100 staff of instructors,cooks,laundry people. I think by Monday the stories of the evacuation and other things will come out.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Four months of rain in four hours caught my attention.

At what time did this rain happen? And if it happened over the course of 4 hours, how was this not enough time to get the kids out of danger?

 

[JOSweetHeart]

That camp with 750 girls and at least 100 staff of instructors,cooks,laundry people. I think by Monday the stories of the evacuation and other things will come out.
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You would think that with cell phones being all over the place now, each girl would be calling their families to let them know that they are okay, unless the storm did a number on the signal to where a cell phone wouldn't work out there.

God bless you and each impacted family always!!!

Holly

 

[Picaro]

At what time did this rain happen? And if it happened over the course of 4 hours, how was this not enough time to get the kids out of danger?

I believe one of the links said around 4 a.m. All would have been sleeping.

 

[odanny]

Imagine you are standing near the river and see this headed your way, pay attention to weather conditions, extreme changes like this are rare but know when they might occur. This is one of those cases where climbing a tree probably would not save you.

 

[Paddlefoot]

Imagine you are standing near the river and see this headed your way, pay attention to weather conditions, extreme changes like this are rare but know when they might occur. This is one of those cases where climbing a tree probably would not save you.

The population getting larger so they move closer to the water. All that cement and roads causes the water to run off to the river even faster than it can drain into the gulf.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The population getting larger so they move closer to the water. All that cement and roads causes the water to run off to the river even faster than it can drain into the gulf.

Fifty dead so far. It wiped out camos, RV PARKS, and camp grounds. Water rose so fast it took out a boat launch park and left trucks hanging on trees. They are finding bodies in the tops if trees. One body was found 100 miles downstream.

 

[Picaro]

Fifty dead so far. It wiped out camos, RV PARKS, and camp grounds. Water rose so fast it took out a boat launch park and left trucks hanging on trees. They are finding bodies in the tops if trees. One body was found 100 miles downstream.

All on flood plains, because the land is cheaper. Probably no insurer would touch them, as well. In any case, nobody should camp on flood plains, ever, it's just common sense. Every Scout camp we ever camped at we were on a cliff or halfway up the side of a canyon, dry or not.

 

[d0gbreath]

At what time did this rain happen? And if it happened over the course of 4 hours, how was this not enough time to get the kids out of danger?

I think it started around 4:00a.