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[Rocko]

Not every military conflict is a war.

 

[TNHarley]

You're all over the map. But it can be argued Trump is using AUMF. Both Obama and Biden did

Im not all over anything.
And they used it incorrectly, just like he did when he hit iran last year.
And AUMFs are unconstitutional. Delegation of powers doesnt exist.

 

[Doc7505]

That was the last time Congress wrote a declaration of war. NINETEEN FOURTY TWO.
How many wars have we been involved with since? You people only ***** about "mUh cOnGrEsS" when its the "other side" doing the crap.
You are all so disingenuous it is nauseating.

The Last Formal Declaration of War - JSTOR Daily

The last time Congress formally declared war was in World War II.

daily.jstor.org

Delegation of powers is not in the constitution. Anywhere. Jefferson spoke of it, but he was also referring to non legislative power. Guess what declarations of war is?
You guys don't really care about the constitution. At all.
Real liberalism is dead.
Real conservatism is dead.
Neoconservatism is alive and well.

<~~~~~~~~~~>
Indeed, Truman didn't wait for Congress to respond to the invasion of South Korea by the North, nor did Eisenhower, Kennedy and LBJ confer with Congress to increase troops in Vietnam to full war by LBJ.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Im not all over anything.
And they used it incorrectly, just like he did when he hit iran last year.
And AUMFs are unconstitutional. Delegation of powers doesnt exist.

If they're unconstitutional why hasn't Scotus ruled as such

 

[MisterBeale]

I’ve never voted for a leftist and you know this.

No doubt you really bleev this, but the fact remains, you have habitually voted for crypto-leftists.

https://conspiracytech.com/news/Meet%20The%20Father%20Of%20Neoconservatism%3A%20Leon%20Trotsky%20-%20Reverb%20Press.pdf

America's 'World Revolution': Neo-Trotskyist Foundations of U.S. Foreign Policy

The ideological foundations of U.S. foreign policy have neo-Trotskyite foundations. Hatred of the USSR since the time of Stalin was the primary motivation for Trotskyists to the point where a significant faction considered the USSR and Stalinism rather than America and capitalism as the major...

www.foreignpolicyjournal.com

". . The CIA consciously worked at transforming and reconstituting these marginal leftists into neocons over the next several decades. Other former Trotskyists James Burnham and Wilmoore Kendall (both former OSS and CIA consultants) joined and closely worked with former CIA agent William F. Buckley Jr. in launching National Review magazine in 1955 to subvert, disrupt and transform America’s “right wing” from the populist Old Right composed of persons opposed to the foreign and domestic policies of FDR’s New Deal and Harry Truman’s Fair Deal into a New Right “fusionist” movement for an aggressive interventionist program for projection of American power in the name of “anti-communism.”Neoconservatism, as a political movement began in the United States during the late 1960s among liberal/social democratic hawks who became disenchanted with the increasingly “pacifist” foreign policy of the Democratic Party and with the growing New Left and counterculture of the 1960s, particularly the Vietnam protests. Some also began to question their previous beliefs regarding domestic policies such as the Great Society. Neoconservatives typically advocate the unilateral promotion of “democracy” and interventionism in international affairs, grounded in a militaristic philosophy of “American Exceptionalism” and”peace through strength.” Neocons began becoming influential in the Nixon, Ford, and Reagan administrations. Later upon Buckley’s retirement and death NR has been solely captured as a neocon entity. Neoconservatism, particularly in relation to foreign policy, has become the ubiquitous and dominant mainstream stance of both political parties.. . "

Who Are The Neocons? How Did They Develop? - LRC Blog

The development of what was originally called by the CIA as the Non-Communist Left (NCL) and what has emerged gradually as neoconservatism has been a work-in-progress since the origins of the CIA in 1947. Agency created front organizations and publications networks such as the Congress for...

www.lewrockwell.com

 

[TNHarley]

Not every military conflict is a war.

If we initiate an attack on another country, its not an act of war?
So if Nigeria assassinated trump, it wouldnt be an act of war?
If they bombed one of our schools, it wouldnt be an act of war?
Of course it would. Because attacking another country is an act of war.

 

[TNHarley]

If they're unconstitutional why hasn't Scotus ruled as such

Who do you think made that crap up?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

That was the last time Congress wrote a declaration of war. NINETEEN FOURTY TWO.
How many wars have we been involved with since? You people only ***** about "mUh cOnGrEsS" when its the "other side" doing the crap.
You are all so disingenuous it is nauseating.

The Last Formal Declaration of War - JSTOR Daily

The last time Congress formally declared war was in World War II.

daily.jstor.org

Delegation of powers is not in the constitution. Anywhere. Jefferson spoke of it, but he was also referring to non legislative power. Guess what declarations of war is?
You guys don't really care about the constitution. At all.
Real liberalism is dead.
Real conservatism is dead.
Neoconservatism is alive and well.

Of course it is dead. We're in the twilight of the nation.
There has been no issue since WW2.

 

[YoursTruly]

You're all over the map. But it can be argued Trump is using AUMF. Both Obama and Biden did

Another similarity of Trump and the democrats. Trump is a democrat, at heart.

The list of similarities is getting pretty lengthy.

 

[YoursTruly]

Not every military conflict is a war.

That's like saying not telling the whole truth isn't a lie.

Bombing is an act of war. If the other countries doesn't retaliate, makes no difference. It's still war.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Not every military conflict is a war.

It is if you believe an act of war is a declaration of war.
If that is the case, you believe the US is currently at a state of war with any number of countries.
It also means the President does not need to consult Congress when prosecuting those wars.

 

[BS Filter]

That’s an act of war. That’s the purview of Congress

Not Dear Leader

Impeach the bastard. I'm sure that'll teach him a lesson.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Bombing is an act of war. If the other countries doesn't retaliate, makes no difference. It's still war.

If that's the case, the US has been at war with Iran since 1979, and Trump doesn't need to consult with Congress when conducting military operations there.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Who do you think made that crap up?

Been going on for a couple of hundred years. Who do you think?

 

[YoursTruly]

It is if you believe an act of war is a declaration of war.
If that is the case, you believe the US is currently at a state of war with any number of countries.
It also means the President does not need to consult Congress when prosecuting those wars.

The constitution says the president does.

But Trump supporters don't care about the constitution, as long as Trump's the one taking a dump on it.

 

[berg80]

IDK but im sure some will.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that Trump “has all the latitude in the world” in determining how long the war will last.

Iran live updates: Six U.S. service members killed in action, Centcom says

Follow the latest news after the U.S. and Israel launched a massive attack on Iran that killed Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

www.cnbc.com

Pistol Pete is making the case for the supreme leader of the US to unilaterally decide how long the war will last. Pardon me for pointing out trump is a dope getting bad advice from dopes.

 

[MisterBeale]

Lol. You got your ass kicked. Accept it.

 

[Robert W]

That was the last time Congress wrote a declaration of war. NINETEEN FOURTY TWO.
How many wars have we been involved with since? You people only ***** about "mUh cOnGrEsS" when its the "other side" doing the crap.
You are all so disingenuous it is nauseating.

The Last Formal Declaration of War - JSTOR Daily

The last time Congress formally declared war was in World War II.

daily.jstor.org

Delegation of powers is not in the constitution. Anywhere. Jefferson spoke of it, but he was also referring to non legislative power. Guess what declarations of war is?
You guys don't really care about the constitution. At all.
Real liberalism is dead.
Real conservatism is dead.
Neoconservatism is alive and well.

Since Democrats keep shutting the Government down, do you think Democrats would declare war. Fact is, the wars we have been have mostly been started by Democrats.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The constitution says the president does.

The constitution says this exactly nowhere.
Whatever restraints there may be on the Article II powers of the President, they go away once war is declared.

 

[Robert W]

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that Trump “has all the latitude in the world” in determining how long the war will last.

Iran live updates: Six U.S. service members killed in action, Centcom says

Follow the latest news after the U.S. and Israel launched a massive attack on Iran that killed Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

www.cnbc.com

Pistol Pete is making the case for the supreme leader of the US to unilaterally decide how long the war will last. Pardon me for pointing out trump is a dope getting bad advice from dopes.

The dopes are Democrats.