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[TNHarley]

That’s an act of war. That’s the purview of Congress

Not Dear Leader

Oh hush. You have already proven you have no real interest in the constitutional restraints of war. Just partisan BS from you.

 

[YoursTruly]

That’s an act of war. That’s the purview of Congress

Not Dear Leader

Trump is their "supreme leader."

 

[MisterBeale]

That makes him just fringe and useless - not evil.

TN's political philosophy is much closer to the founders than yours is, thus, I don't give a sh1t about your opinion on this.

 

[M14 Shooter]

LOL why wouldnt you skip the quote from a founder putting your retardedness to the dust bin of warmongers?

You are -still- avoiding my question:
Is an act of war inherently a declaration of an international national state of war?

 

[Stryder50]

That was the last time Congress wrote a declaration of war. NINETEEN FOURTY TWO.
How many wars have we been involved with since? You people only ***** about "mUh cOnGrEsS" when its the "other side" doing the crap.
You are all so disingenuous it is nauseating.

The Last Formal Declaration of War - JSTOR Daily

The last time Congress formally declared war was in World War II.

daily.jstor.org

Delegation of powers is not in the constitution. Anywhere. Jefferson spoke of it, but he was also referring to non legislative power. Guess what declarations of war is?
You guys don't really care about the constitution. At all.
Real liberalism is dead.
Real conservatism is dead.
Neoconservatism is alive and well.

MAD - Mutual Assured Destruction

When the Communist ICBMs with nuclear warheads are thirty minutes away from impacting and detonating in the USA, there isn't time to convene Congress to debate on and approve a counter attack; formal Declaration of War. Hence Emergency War Powers Authorization.

Technology and communications are much advanced over the times of the Founders 250 years ago. Back then quickest time to get a message from Maine to Florida was either weeks by horseback or several days by sailing ship with good winds.

Today, crap can happen before one finishes the morning shit~shower~shave.

Not just inside the USA, but around the world where we have military based, citizens doing business/vacation, investments and business interests, etc.

Reality is that the USA as a global trading nation and one with many alliances can not count on physical distance as a barrier or basis for isolationism.

The world for USA isolationism foreign policy pasted away about 125 years ago.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Tripoli already declared war on us.

Why? Because Jefferson refused to pay for safe passage of US commerce.

The fact remains Jefferson authorized military action without Congressional approval and it pretty much set the stage to where we are

 

[TNHarley]

You are -still- avoiding my question:
Is an act of war inherently a declaration of an international national state of war?

Its irrelevant.

 

[M14 Shooter]

That’s an act of war. That’s the purview of Congress

Stupid shit.
Congress can only declare war; it cannot commit an act of war.

 

[TNHarley]

Why? Because Jefferson refused to pay for safe passage of US commerce.

The fact remains Jefferson authorized military action without Congressional approval and it pretty much set the stage to where we are

The president doesnt need congress to respond to hostility.
That was even in the founders quote you first responded to.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Its irrelevant.

I accept your surrender.

 

[TNHarley]

I accept your surrender.

LOL like a little kid. Just make things up, and pat yourself on the back.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The president doesnt need congress to respond to hostility.

So... the President does NOT need a declaration of war from Congress to commit an act of war.
Hmm.

 

[TNHarley]

So... the President does NOT need a declaration of war from Congress to commit an act of war.
Hmm.

Is your dishonesty the reason you ignore my quote on the actual subject?

 

[M14 Shooter]

LOL like a little kid. Just make things up, and pat yourself on the back.

I'm sorry you don't like the fact you know you;re wrong, but there's nothing I can do about it.
When you can muster the honesty to address my question, let me know.

 

[TNHarley]

I'm sorry you don't like the fact you know you;re wrong, but there's nothing I can do about it.
When you can muster the honesty to address my question, let me know.

Goodbye child.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Is your dishonesty...

The only dishonesty here is you avoiding my question by claiming it is irrelevant...
.. and then refusing to understand you answered my question and proved me correct.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Goodbye child.

Your absence will not be noticed, punk.

 

[YoursTruly]

What we get for it.

Dead American soldiers
Higher gas prices.
And more debt.

 

[TNHarley]

That was him being sarcastic. Wonder what happened to him?
LOL JK I know what happened. The same thing that happened to most people. A letter by someones name.

And Clinton did not go to war with Iraq - he just just conducted missile and airstrikes.

You old dishonest cowards are too easy.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The president doesnt need congress to respond to hostility.
That was even in the founders quote you first responded to.

You're all over the map. But it can be argued Trump is using AUMF. Both Obama and Biden did