14 year old shoots 5 family members dead as US killing fields clam 10,000 victims this year

[2aguy]

Says the ignoramous who ignores actual facts. The simple reality is violent crazy people murder. The tools don't matter. You can't ban every tool no matter how hard you try. The truck attacks in France proved that to thinking people. How about you try thinking some time. You might learn something.

Actually, we're the only country that has these kinds of constant mass shootings. Care to explain why? I'l wait.

Because we have millions of illegal third world people who have brought their violent culture with them.

Want to know what Europe does not have? Latin Americans. Latin America has 8% of the world's population yet suffers 31% of the world's murders.

We have them here, they don't.

So why are our mass murderers almost all whites?

Let's see....93 killed in 12 mass public shootings in 2018... not all of the shooters were white.

10,982 gun murders by criminals against other criminals, the majority of those shooters were blacks killing other blacks...

Do you see where you have a problem?

So your puny mind can only imagine dealing with one thing at a time?

Nope...I have listed how you deal with mass shooters......you don't want to hear it because it doesn't ban guns....

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....

 

[Taz]

No, it would have to be a comprehensive nation wide set of new rules for all gun owners.

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is, getting shot up on a constant basis. Do you feel like a cowboy or something?

No, we don't like. Only an infant, such as yourself, would use such a stupid argument. However we want whatever laws are passed to WORK. This last asshole was a criminal who should have been in prison for attempting to buy a firearm as a prohibited person. How about we actually enforce the laws that are already on the books. Had they been this asshole wouldn't have been able to do this attack.

I agree, we need laws that work. New ones.

 

[Godboy]

Of countries that don't have constant mass shootings. What is it that you don't get?

He gets it. Nobody is that stupid. He is just deflecting.

Get what?

He says, "we need more gun control".

I say, "what gun control would have stopped this kid from shooting people?"

He says, "take your pick."


What kind of answer is that, and why are you patting him on the back for that useless response? Do you people even believe in the positions you take? Why cant you defend your ideas?

You look at what other countries are doing to get a grip on gun violence. There are plenty of them out there. Take your pick. Numpty.

Other countries ban guns. That isnt gun control, thats a ban. In the US we have the second amendment, so that obviously isnt an option here.

So, what gun control would have stopped this kid from shooting these people? Do you not have an answer? If not, then why did you take this position in the first place?

You hillbillies crack me up. You feels so helpless that nothing can be done. I pity you folks.

Ok, now is the moment YOU tell us the solution. There has been a lot of build up to this moment, so dont let us down.

 

[Taz]

Take my pick of what?

Of countries that don't have constant mass shootings. What is it that you don't get?

What does that have to do with the question? You are the one who said we need more gun control. What gun control policy would have stopped this kid from shooting these people?

If the father had locked up his guns. And not be such a dick.

From what I have seen the father didn't have the gun legally as he was a criminal....so if that is true, you fail.......

Yeah, how would a "lock up your guns" policy stop a criminal who doesnt care about the law? That policy would not have prevented this.

It's not any one policy that'll do it, it has to be a complete reform.

 

[Taz]

No, it would have to be a comprehensive nation wide set of new rules for all gun owners.

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is...

I didn't think you'd have a meaningful response to my post - thanks for meeting my expectations.
Why should we place unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding?

So you like this country just the way it is with all the mass shootings.

By all you mean 12. With 93 killed.....

How many were killed by bees and wasps?

Can you tell which kills more people every year? Dogs kill more people than mass shooters do each year...should we ban dog ownership? Should only the police and military have access to dogs?

Afraid of Snakes? Wasps and Dogs Are Deadlier

Of the 1,610 people killed in encounters with animals between 2008 and 2015,

478 were killed by hornets, wasps and bees,

and 272 by dogs, according to a study published in Wilderness & Environmental Medicine. Snakes, spiders and scorpions were responsible for 99 deaths over the eight years.

Strawman argument. Let's allow murders because we fall down way more. Idiotic as well.

 

[2aguy]

Anything that accounts for less than one percent of the total doesn't happen that often by definition

99% of all murders take place outside of mass shooting events

So which is the problem we should be concerned with the most?

Americans are lacking compassion for others, just like you exhibit here. You don't care who gets hurt, just as long as you can play a tough guy. Here's news for you:
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Where am I playing "tough guy" ? I am dispassionately looking at the numbers and not letting my emotions dictate my actions

And news flash most people don't really care about people they don't know. Oh you all say you do then you go about your life like it never happened because it has no direct impact on you.

No, I'm at least willing to try things so more people don't get shot. You want more people shot, that's the difference, otherwise you'd be willing to do something about it.

No.... you want things that will keep normal people from owning and carrying guns...that is not the same thing as stopping criminals and mass shooters...

My plan works.....yours does not.....but my plan does not give you universal background checks, gun registration, gun licensing........more fees or taxes....so you don't care that it will actually work...

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.
This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....

Your plan doesn't address the shootings, just cleans up afterwards. Though it could be one component for sure.

I have stated over and over that mass shooters need to be dealt with differently than other criminals since they don't care about dying......most of the time.....

1) End gun free zones, allow normal people to carry guns into public places

2) Get the media to stop covering mass shootings like they are the Oscars, and no longer state the name of the shooter, refer to them in derogatory terms.... Like the Loser.....or the dumb shit....

3) We are already seeing this one...get people who know the nuts to report the nuts......

4) When the police know they have a violent nut....Like they knew in the Parkland shooter with over 33 visits...arrest them for their felonies, and then they will pop on background checks..

that about covers it....the entire problem

 

[2aguy]

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is...

I didn't think you'd have a meaningful response to my post - thanks for meeting my expectations.
Why should we place unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding?

So you like this country just the way it is with all the mass shootings.

By all you mean 12. With 93 killed.....

How many were killed by bees and wasps?

Can you tell which kills more people every year? Dogs kill more people than mass shooters do each year...should we ban dog ownership? Should only the police and military have access to dogs?

Afraid of Snakes? Wasps and Dogs Are Deadlier

Of the 1,610 people killed in encounters with animals between 2008 and 2015,

478 were killed by hornets, wasps and bees,

and 272 by dogs, according to a study published in Wilderness & Environmental Medicine. Snakes, spiders and scorpions were responsible for 99 deaths over the eight years.

Strawman argument. Let's allow murders because we fall down way more. Idiotic as well.

Moron, I just gave you the two plans that will work, one for common criminals, the other for mass shooters...you plan does nothing, my plans actually work.

 

[Taz]

Of countries that don't have constant mass shootings. What is it that you don't get?

What does that have to do with the question? You are the one who said we need more gun control. What gun control policy would have stopped this kid from shooting these people?

If the father had locked up his guns. And not be such a dick.

From what I have seen the father didn't have the gun legally as he was a criminal....so if that is true, you fail.......

So we need to tighten up the system so that this guy can't get a gun.

we did tighten up the system and he went around it....... he should have been arrested when he was shooting his gun from his home...that is an arrest that would also have popped him in current background checks....

You want something that can't work.....with a country with our borders.......Britain can't keep illegal guns out of their country and they are an island...

Mass shooters are a rare problem....my plan stops 95% of gun murder....

You are against common sense gun control...you simply want to bother normal gun owners..

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.
This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....

We need to re-assess the whole system because it's broken in its entirety. You want the status quo.

 

[Taz]

No, it would have to be a comprehensive nation wide set of new rules for all gun owners.

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is...

I didn't think you'd have a meaningful response to my post - thanks for meeting my expectations.
Why should we place unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding?

So you like this country just the way it is with all the mass shootings.

I'm sorry - you didn't address the question:
Why should we place unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding?

Because laws have to be for everyone if you want them to work. I thought that would be obvious.

 

[M14 Shooter]

No, it would have to be a comprehensive nation wide set of new rules for all gun owners.

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is, getting shot up on a constant basis. Do you feel like a cowboy or something?

No, we don't like. Only an infant, such as yourself, would use such a stupid argument. However we want whatever laws are passed to WORK. This last asshole was a criminal who should have been in prison for attempting to buy a firearm as a prohibited person. How about we actually enforce the laws that are already on the books. Had they been this asshole wouldn't have been able to do this attack.

I agree, we need laws that work. New ones.

The laws you seek are unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding - why do we "need" them?

 

[2aguy]

No, it would have to be a comprehensive nation wide set of new rules for all gun owners.

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is, getting shot up on a constant basis. Do you feel like a cowboy or something?

No, we don't like. Only an infant, such as yourself, would use such a stupid argument. However we want whatever laws are passed to WORK. This last asshole was a criminal who should have been in prison for attempting to buy a firearm as a prohibited person. How about we actually enforce the laws that are already on the books. Had they been this asshole wouldn't have been able to do this attack.

I agree, we need laws that work. New ones.

The old laws work....the police, judges and prosecutors are refusing to use them....why would they use new laws if they aren't using the old ones....care to explain that riddle, Batman?

 

[Taz]

Actually, we're the only country that has these kinds of constant mass shootings. Care to explain why? I'l wait.

Because we have millions of illegal third world people who have brought their violent culture with them.

Want to know what Europe does not have? Latin Americans. Latin America has 8% of the world's population yet suffers 31% of the world's murders.

We have them here, they don't.

So why are our mass murderers almost all whites?

Let's see....93 killed in 12 mass public shootings in 2018... not all of the shooters were white.

10,982 gun murders by criminals against other criminals, the majority of those shooters were blacks killing other blacks...

Do you see where you have a problem?

So your puny mind can only imagine dealing with one thing at a time?

Nope...I have listed how you deal with mass shooters......you don't want to hear it because it doesn't ban guns....

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....

So basically no plan. Got it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is...

I didn't think you'd have a meaningful response to my post - thanks for meeting my expectations.
Why should we place unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding?

So you like this country just the way it is with all the mass shootings.

I'm sorry - you didn't address the question:
Why should we place unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding?

Because laws have to be for everyone if you want them to work. I thought that would be obvious.

As I thought - you have no compelling argument for placing unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding.
Thank you

 

[Godboy]

What does that have to do with the question? You are the one who said we need more gun control. What gun control policy would have stopped this kid from shooting these people?

If the father had locked up his guns. And not be such a dick.

From what I have seen the father didn't have the gun legally as he was a criminal....so if that is true, you fail.......

So we need to tighten up the system so that this guy can't get a gun.

we did tighten up the system and he went around it....... he should have been arrested when he was shooting his gun from his home...that is an arrest that would also have popped him in current background checks....

You want something that can't work.....with a country with our borders.......Britain can't keep illegal guns out of their country and they are an island...

Mass shooters are a rare problem....my plan stops 95% of gun murder....

You are against common sense gun control...you simply want to bother normal gun owners..

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.
This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....

We need to re-assess the whole system because it's broken in its entirety. You want the status quo.

You havent offered a single viable solution to the problem.

 

[2aguy]

What does that have to do with the question? You are the one who said we need more gun control. What gun control policy would have stopped this kid from shooting these people?

If the father had locked up his guns. And not be such a dick.

From what I have seen the father didn't have the gun legally as he was a criminal....so if that is true, you fail.......

So we need to tighten up the system so that this guy can't get a gun.

we did tighten up the system and he went around it....... he should have been arrested when he was shooting his gun from his home...that is an arrest that would also have popped him in current background checks....

You want something that can't work.....with a country with our borders.......Britain can't keep illegal guns out of their country and they are an island...

Mass shooters are a rare problem....my plan stops 95% of gun murder....

You are against common sense gun control...you simply want to bother normal gun owners..

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.
This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....

We need to re-assess the whole system because it's broken in its entirety. You want the status quo.

No, it isn't broken.....it isn't being implemented by democrat judges, prosecutors and politicians....you don't want to see that, but that is where the system fails...the laws will work...but you have to lock up the repeat gun offenders you catch...

But you don't care about stopping gun crime or mass shootings...you just want to keep normal people from owning guns...two very different desires....

 

[2aguy]

Because we have millions of illegal third world people who have brought their violent culture with them.

Want to know what Europe does not have? Latin Americans. Latin America has 8% of the world's population yet suffers 31% of the world's murders.

We have them here, they don't.

So why are our mass murderers almost all whites?

Let's see....93 killed in 12 mass public shootings in 2018... not all of the shooters were white.

10,982 gun murders by criminals against other criminals, the majority of those shooters were blacks killing other blacks...

Do you see where you have a problem?

So your puny mind can only imagine dealing with one thing at a time?

Nope...I have listed how you deal with mass shooters......you don't want to hear it because it doesn't ban guns....

1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....

So basically no plan. Got it.

You only care about banning guns.....my plan works.....at all levels...

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..

I have covered all the bases...you just want to ban and confiscate guns..

 

[Taz]

He gets it. Nobody is that stupid. He is just deflecting.

Get what?

He says, "we need more gun control".

I say, "what gun control would have stopped this kid from shooting people?"

He says, "take your pick."


What kind of answer is that, and why are you patting him on the back for that useless response? Do you people even believe in the positions you take? Why cant you defend your ideas?

You look at what other countries are doing to get a grip on gun violence. There are plenty of them out there. Take your pick. Numpty.

Other countries ban guns. That isnt gun control, thats a ban. In the US we have the second amendment, so that obviously isnt an option here.

So, what gun control would have stopped this kid from shooting these people? Do you not have an answer? If not, then why did you take this position in the first place?

You hillbillies crack me up. You feels so helpless that nothing can be done. I pity you folks.

Ok, now is the moment YOU tell us the solution. There has been a lot of build up to this moment, so dont let us down.

Like I said, look at what countries that have less gun violence do. But not being an expert on the subject, I would take all kinds of weapons off the market, limit the amount of bullets to a low amount that any one person can buy in a year, put fingerprint scanners on guns to unlock them so only the owner can use them (kids wouldn't be able to shoot themselves at home...), guns can only be sold through a registered dealer, make bullets be traceable back to the purchaser... lots of things.

 

[Taz]

No, it would have to be a comprehensive nation wide set of new rules for all gun owners.

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is, getting shot up on a constant basis. Do you feel like a cowboy or something?

No, we don't like. Only an infant, such as yourself, would use such a stupid argument. However we want whatever laws are passed to WORK. This last asshole was a criminal who should have been in prison for attempting to buy a firearm as a prohibited person. How about we actually enforce the laws that are already on the books. Had they been this asshole wouldn't have been able to do this attack.

I agree, we need laws that work. New ones.

The laws you seek are unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding - why do we "need" them?

You're dismissing laws that haven't yet been put forward.

 

[2aguy]

Get what?

He says, "we need more gun control".

I say, "what gun control would have stopped this kid from shooting people?"

He says, "take your pick."


What kind of answer is that, and why are you patting him on the back for that useless response? Do you people even believe in the positions you take? Why cant you defend your ideas?

You look at what other countries are doing to get a grip on gun violence. There are plenty of them out there. Take your pick. Numpty.

Other countries ban guns. That isnt gun control, thats a ban. In the US we have the second amendment, so that obviously isnt an option here.

So, what gun control would have stopped this kid from shooting these people? Do you not have an answer? If not, then why did you take this position in the first place?

You hillbillies crack me up. You feels so helpless that nothing can be done. I pity you folks.

Ok, now is the moment YOU tell us the solution. There has been a lot of build up to this moment, so dont let us down.

Like I said, look at what countries that have less gun violence do. But not being an expert on the subject, I would take all kinds of weapons off the market, limit the amount of bullets to a low amount that any one person can buy in a year, put fingerprint scanners on guns to unlock them so only the owner can use them (kids wouldn't be able to shoot themselves at home...), guns can only be sold through a registered dealer, make bullet be traceable back to the purchaser... lots of things.

Wrong...those countries, before, had low gun murders and rarely had mass shootings before they banned guns.......and their crime rates are now increasing, their young males are more violent, and they can't stop illegal guns.....

Everything you just listed is useless....... mass shooters plan their attacks 6 months to 2 years in advance and regular criminals don't care about your limits on guns or bullets....

Criminals who steal guns, you doofus, can already unlock the fingerprint guns on the market today....and bullets from a stolen gun will not go back to the shooter....they will go back to whoever had the gun stolen...

So, everything you just listed won't work.....everything I listed actually works but without all of your restrictions on normal people......so you don't want what works, you just want to ban guns.

 

[2aguy]

None of which are necessary , none of which are effective, and most, if not all of which will violate the Constitution.
Other than that, I'm sure they'll be great!

So you like your country just the way it is, getting shot up on a constant basis. Do you feel like a cowboy or something?

No, we don't like. Only an infant, such as yourself, would use such a stupid argument. However we want whatever laws are passed to WORK. This last asshole was a criminal who should have been in prison for attempting to buy a firearm as a prohibited person. How about we actually enforce the laws that are already on the books. Had they been this asshole wouldn't have been able to do this attack.

I agree, we need laws that work. New ones.

The laws you seek are unnecessary, ineffective, and unconstitutional restrictions on the law abiding - why do we "need" them?

You're dismissing laws that haven't yet been put forward.

They have already been tried in other countries and failed....Canada most recently....and the "Smart Guns" have already been tested and the mechanism can already be bypassed, easily.....