1 Million Man Deportation Force

[pknopp]

Stalin in the 20th century deported the most people & built the most walls.
Basically what Republicans are calling for in the 21st century.

You don't understand history.

Communists / Marxists etc etc etc....build walls to KEEP PEOPLE IN.......

Trumps wall is to keep people OUT

You should try to educate yourself on the concept of the difference between desires and objections, choice and slavery.

Walls are walls. People still got out, people will still get in. In the meantime communities are cut off, trade is disrupted, natural migrations cut off.

There are areas where a fence or wall is affective. There are areas where it is not. Meanwhile private property is being seized.

If you have a garden and the deer are getting in your garden putting a wall just along the rear of your property is not going to keep the deer out.

It will if that's the way they are entering your garden.

I had a tenant here a few years back that loved his garden. He planted one every year. But the first year, the deer got to his goods and he put up a fence around and over his vegetables. Problem solved. Never had an animal invasion again.

Your example doesn't support your first remark. I think you know that though.

 

[The Original Tree]

Asylum seekers should have to apply at an Embassy for Asylum because THE US does not have Jurisdiction over Foreign Citizens, per the 14th Amendment.

Just suspend Asylum.

Deport all illegals. 1 million deportation force could do it.

Illegals voted in 2016, they will do it again. 13 states GIVE illegals driver licenses, just line up and get one. Think these 13 states don't know they will all cheat and vote dem? Baby jesus told them to in 2016, "voting makes you a citizen"

The problem is you can't just deport people. Once they make it in, they are entitled to a court hearing, especially when they claim asylum. The problem is not finding them, the problem is our court system is so backed up in spite of Trump putting more judges to do the job. 20 million is a hell of a lot of people for courts to handle.

Trump got pretty close. He created a policy where they had to apply for asylum at their embassy. That and pressuring Mexico to stop the flow to our borders, Trump reduced crossings by more than 70% since May of this year.

He's doing all he can.

Of course the real solution would be Congress to change the laws. Anybody caught here illegally is a felon, and is subject to the minimum of 5 years in federal prison for the first offense. I stress the minimum part.

We wouldn't have to worry about deportations, because they would deport themselves. We wouldn't have to worry about a wall, because few would want to come here. It would solve most of our Visa problems, because everybody would get the hell out on their expiration date.

Problem solved, but who is willing to do it?

 

[The Original Tree]

There is a big difference between keeping out Foreign Invaders, who are importing death and drugs in to the US, raping and kidnapping and engaging in human trafficking, and weaponizing The Government Against We The People like Obama Bin Spying Did.

If they are not raping, pillaging, and plundering, then they are operating as sappers, draining Billions and Billions of dollars from our treasury each year.

The cost of just caring for the illegal aliens we have now, that we know of alone is $150 Billion a year. This does not include the cost to combat, drugs, human trafficking, and crime that is a result of illegal immigration, and does not take in to account the cost to our Health Care system and Education System, nor the cost to Sanctuary Cities for their homeless crisis, and law enforcement issues for dealing with tent cities and sanitation, and safety.

The Primary Function of Government is to protect We The People from hostile forces. Illegal Immigrants are Hostile Forces. They represent threats to our fiscal stability, and threats to our elections and our Republic.

 

[Mac-7]

The left does not want to deport illegals and will not do so even without work for them to do

Business does not want illegals deported. That is why they are not. "The left" does not control the justice department and it's their call. I would say that you are being lied to but you know what is what. It's not about deporting illegals.

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Thats simply not true

employers do not deserve to be punished for the failure of congress to stop the illegal alien invasion

 

[Mac-7]

Walls to keep people out can also be used down the road to keep people in.

I promise we won't keep your stupid ass in. Please, by all means, get the fuck out moron

LOL, The plans to deport 20 million illegals & build a wall, could be turned around 180, and be used to terrorize American culture.

Of course, the Capitalist pigs don't want you to know, we could actually jail a small percentage of them for hiring illegals, setting an example,

Without income illegals will simply self deport.

The left does not want to deport illegals and will not do so even without work for them to do

Untrue.

That is 100% true. Dim politicians have said so many times.

Libs are in denial

 

[Mac-7]

Business does not want illegals deported. That is why they are not. "The left" does not control the justice department and it's their call. I would say that you are being lied to but you know what is what. It's not about deporting illegals.

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Dims are obstructing everything Trump tries to do.

I'm going to quit replying to those who intentionally reply in a dishonest manner.

Dems can't stop Trump from having the justice Dept go after the businesses hiring illegals .......and you know that.

Every time he does that call him Adolph Hitler.

Speaking of dishonesty, when are you going to quit pretending that you actually want to control illegal immigration?

It boggles the mind that liberals want to attack the people make the economy go

 

[Mac-7]

It’s also illegal to give an illegal alien a driver’s license. These kind of policies like Sanctuary Cities need challenges in court.

the left is supporting illegal aliens who are here and those who want to come here

Federal Law actually addresses people who encourage others to come here illegally and give them safe harbor. Those are crimes too. Every Democrat could rightfully be in jail right now

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
This is for that group that helped organize that giant migration recently:
(d)Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.

8 U.S. Code § 1327 - Aiding or assisting certain aliens to enter
This is for Democrats
Any person who knowingly aids or assists any alien inadmissible under section 1182(a)(2) (insofar as an alien inadmissible under such section has been convicted of an aggravated felony) or 1182(a)(3) (other than subparagraph (E) thereof) of this title to enter the United States, or who connives or conspires with any person or persons to allow, procure, or permit any such alien to enter the United States, shall be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.


8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
This is for the illegals themselves:

8 U.S. Code § 1325.Improper entry by alien

Cities can not determine who is here legally and who is not. Only the Federal government can. But you know that but won't let that stop you.

And when the feds identify an illegal alien sitting in a city jail liberals refuse to turn him over for deportation

 

[The Original Tree]

Business does not want illegals deported. That is why they are not. "The left" does not control the justice department and it's their call. I would say that you are being lied to but you know what is what. It's not about deporting illegals.

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Thats simply not true

employers do not deserve to be punished for the failure of congress to stop the illegal alien invasion

They should be punished if they knowingly hire an illegal alien.

 

[Mac-7]

Business does not want illegals deported. That is why they are not. "The left" does not control the justice department and it's their call. I would say that you are being lied to but you know what is what. It's not about deporting illegals.

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Employers are only part of the problem. Many come here just to drop kids so they can be considered Americans.

It's estimated by some we have 20 million illegals in this country. I find it hard to believe all 20 million found employment and working here illegally.

Agree about the anchor babies

but if congress was doing its job no illegals would not be here and employers would hire Americans

 

[pknopp]

Business does not want illegals deported. That is why they are not. "The left" does not control the justice department and it's their call. I would say that you are being lied to but you know what is what. It's not about deporting illegals.

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Thats simply not true

employers do not deserve to be punished for the failure of congress to stop the illegal alien invasion

LOL, yeah, Congress is forcing them to break the law. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

 

[pknopp]

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Dims are obstructing everything Trump tries to do.

I'm going to quit replying to those who intentionally reply in a dishonest manner.

Dems can't stop Trump from having the justice Dept go after the businesses hiring illegals .......and you know that.

Every time he does that call him Adolph Hitler.

Speaking of dishonesty, when are you going to quit pretending that you actually want to control illegal immigration?

It boggles the mind that liberals want to attack the people make the economy go

I appreciate you backing up my point.

 

[Mac-7]

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Dims are obstructing everything Trump tries to do.

I'm going to quit replying to those who intentionally reply in a dishonest manner.

Dems can't stop Trump from having the justice Dept go after the businesses hiring illegals .......and you know that.

Every time he does that call him Adolph Hitler.

Speaking of dishonesty, when are you going to quit pretending that you actually want to control illegal immigration?

I factually state what I want every time I reply on this subject.

You demand the wrong fix

Your way has not worked since 40 years ago

 

[pknopp]

It’s also illegal to give an illegal alien a driver’s license. These kind of policies like Sanctuary Cities need challenges in court.

the left is supporting illegal aliens who are here and those who want to come here

Federal Law actually addresses people who encourage others to come here illegally and give them safe harbor. Those are crimes too. Every Democrat could rightfully be in jail right now

8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
This is for that group that helped organize that giant migration recently:
(d)Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud
Any individual who knowingly establishes a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of the immigration laws shall be imprisoned for not more than 5 years, fined in accordance with title 18, or both.

8 U.S. Code § 1327 - Aiding or assisting certain aliens to enter
This is for Democrats
Any person who knowingly aids or assists any alien inadmissible under section 1182(a)(2) (insofar as an alien inadmissible under such section has been convicted of an aggravated felony) or 1182(a)(3) (other than subparagraph (E) thereof) of this title to enter the United States, or who connives or conspires with any person or persons to allow, procure, or permit any such alien to enter the United States, shall be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.


8 U.S. Code § 1325 - Improper entry by alien
This is for the illegals themselves:

8 U.S. Code § 1325.Improper entry by alien

Cities can not determine who is here legally and who is not. Only the Federal government can. But you know that but won't let that stop you.

And when the feds identify an illegal alien sitting in a city jail liberals refuse to turn him over for deportation

They are unable to do that. You are once again making crap up. They will not hold them beyond their sentence as that is illegal.

 

[The Original Tree]

I wanted to post this link in here about Immigration Law for reference.

Immigration LAW 1907. TITLE 8, U.S.C. 1324

 

[bripat9643]

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Employers are only part of the problem. Many come here just to drop kids so they can be considered Americans.

It's estimated by some we have 20 million illegals in this country. I find it hard to believe all 20 million found employment and working here illegally.

There is no reason to come here if you can't get a job. All 20 million did not. Some are being supported by those who found a job. The problem will only get bigger though as long as we completely ignore this aspect of the problem.

Whatever. If that's what you want.

That "aspect" is solved by sending them back to Mexico.

 

[pknopp]

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Dims are obstructing everything Trump tries to do.

I'm going to quit replying to those who intentionally reply in a dishonest manner.

Dems can't stop Trump from having the justice Dept go after the businesses hiring illegals .......and you know that.

Every time he does that call him Adolph Hitler.

Speaking of dishonesty, when are you going to quit pretending that you actually want to control illegal immigration?

I factually state what I want every time I reply on this subject.

You demand the wrong fix

Your way has not worked since 40 years ago

My way is not being done. Never has been but you know that. Trump has not charged a single employer.

 

[bripat9643]

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Dims are obstructing everything Trump tries to do.

I'm going to quit replying to those who intentionally reply in a dishonest manner.

Dems can't stop Trump from having the justice Dept go after the businesses hiring illegals .......and you know that.

Every time he does that call him Adolph Hitler.

Speaking of dishonesty, when are you going to quit pretending that you actually want to control illegal immigration?

I factually state what I want every time I reply on this subject.

Like all leftwingers, you lie all the time, especially about this issue.

 

[Mac-7]

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Thats simply not true

employers do not deserve to be punished for the failure of congress to stop the illegal alien invasion

LOL, yeah, Congress is forcing them to break the law. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Thats simply not true

employers do not deserve to be punished for the failure of congress to stop the illegal alien invasion

LOL, yeah, Congress is forcing them to break the law. What ever happened to personal responsibility?

In a way yes

by leaving the border wide open to illegal alien invasion the job market is flooded with desperate people willing to work for slave wages

 

[pknopp]

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Employers are only part of the problem. Many come here just to drop kids so they can be considered Americans.

It's estimated by some we have 20 million illegals in this country. I find it hard to believe all 20 million found employment and working here illegally.

There is no reason to come here if you can't get a job. All 20 million did not. Some are being supported by those who found a job. The problem will only get bigger though as long as we completely ignore this aspect of the problem.

Whatever. If that's what you want.

That "aspect" is solved by sending them back to Mexico.

Impossible to send 20-30 million people back.

 

[Mac-7]

The chamber of commerce is very pro illegal alien

they represent many but not all businesses

small business is often not affiliated with the Chamber and is more loyal to the rule of law

Small business has no say in what the government does. Trump is very pro-big business. Hence, nothing is going to be done.

Big business has a lot of influence

but so do voters

trump is not the problem

its the swamp rats in congress who are holding up progress

Trump has full control to bring the entire weight of the government down on employers. Trump and Trump only. Quit being dishonest.

Employers are only part of the problem. Many come here just to drop kids so they can be considered Americans.

It's estimated by some we have 20 million illegals in this country. I find it hard to believe all 20 million found employment and working here illegally.

There is no reason to come here if you can't get a job. All 20 million did not. Some are being supported by those who found a job. The problem will only get bigger though as long as we completely ignore this aspect of the problem.

Whatever. If that's what you want.

And if they have a child but refuse to leave?

will liberals deport them?

of course not