Your boss could fire you for using birth control

[Luddly Neddite]

Makes you wonder what the right has in mind.

It used to be legal for employers to ask very personal questions. If the RWs have their way, it will be again.

You don't think an employer has the right to know if the person they are looking to hire is a murderer?

So, you have never used a condom or any other kind of birth control? And you would refuse to have sex with a partner who did?

Do you also believe men should be forced to support every single child they produce? Or are you saying this law should be only for women?

What does this have to do with an employer deciding who works for him/her?

Didn't read the OP, did you.

It clearly says that Repubs voted to allow employers to discriminate against employees who use birth control.

Condoms are a form of birth control.

Get it now?

It sounds to me like you wouldnt get along with the boss in a place like that anyway,why would you want to work there?
I know I wouldnt want to work for a progressive.

Its not progressives who are wanting to control your use of birth control but you're correct that I would not want to work for a company that did.

What's amazing to me is that anyone would believe one's birth control is the business of their employee. And yet, that degree of meddling and control is very typical of the Big Government right wing.

For my own part, I would refuse to make that information available.

Interesting that when the board discussed doctors asking their patients if there were guns in their home, the RWs all threw a fit, said it was not the business of the doctor. And yet, I don't see RWs objecting to their law makers passing this bill that would make their employers privy to very personal and private information.

Wanna bet that you rabid, Big Government, RWs don't see the hypocrisy in that?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You don't think an employer has the right to know if the person they are looking to hire is a murderer?

So, you have never used a condom or any other kind of birth control? And you would refuse to have sex with a partner who did?

Do you also believe men should be forced to support every single child they produce? Or are you saying this law should be only for women?

What does this have to do with an employer deciding who works for him/her?

Didn't read the OP, did you.

It clearly says that Repubs voted to allow employers to discriminate against employees who use birth control.

Condoms are a form of birth control.

Get it now?

It sounds to me like you wouldnt get along with the boss in a place like that anyway,why would you want to work there?
I know I wouldnt want to work for a progressive.

Its not progressives who are wanting to control your use of birth control but you're correct that I would not want to work for a company that did.

What's amazing to me is that anyone would believe one's birth control is the business of their employee. And yet, that degree of meddling and control is very typical of the Big Government right wing.

For my own part, I would refuse to make that information available.

Interesting that when the board discussed doctors asking their patients if there were guns in their home, the RWs all threw a fit, said it was not the business of the doctor. And yet, I don't see RWs objecting to their law makers passing this bill that would make their employers privy to very personal and private information.

Wanna bet that you rabid, Big Government, RWs don't see the hypocrisy in that?

And as I've already said in this thread.

"You're barking up the wrong tree here.
The only type of BC I have a problem with is late term abortion.
In fact I wouldnt be opposed to free morning after pills for every chick in America. Hand them MFers out like Skittles!!
Of course if you start pumping out kids for money you dont get squat."

I dont agree with the policy,but it's up to the business owner as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Muhammed]

And apparently, its okay for men to have sex for fun but not okay for women.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

 

[danielpalos]

I agree to not complain when women harass me for sex instead of really really serious relationships.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Clown Brigade all up in arms again about nothing that really matters.

 

[Muhammed]

Does beating off count?

Actually, as we've seen here, some fundies do think masturbation is wrong, sinful, yadda yadda.

Wouldn't surprise me if the pubs want to outlaw that as well. Don't encourage them.

Do you even comprehend how idiotic you seem when you post comments like that?

 

[martybegan]

I've looked at several articles on this, from various sites and not one of them mentions condoms.

The Republicans think its okay for men to practice birth control but not for women. How is that supposed to work?

And apparently, its okay for men to have sex for fun but not okay for women.

I notice above that several posters seem to be agreeing that an employer should be able to fire a woman for her reproductive decisions and choices but only one has had the gumption to vote that way in the poll.

The difference is Paying for your own birth control, as opposed to expecting it for free. I pay for my own condoms, and don't expect someone else to pick up the tab.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why not fire someone for using birth control?

Paula Deen got fired for exercising her first amendment right back in the seventies, because her employers' ad revenue was threatened by the likelihood of various target demographics finding her admission of a prior utterance of the N word offensive and tuning out.

By this standard, if an employer determines that, for instance, widespread public knowledge of an employee's past abortion exists and threatens to chill the patronage of a targeted clientele, they should absolutely be able to fire that person.

Unless there's something inherently more sacred about reproductive rights than speech rights?

Not a good comparison at all.

Deen lived a public life and said that word and more in public several times. It was her advertisers who were ultimately responsible for holding her accountable.

What consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes is not the business of their employers.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I've looked at several articles on this, from various sites and not one of them mentions condoms.

The Republicans think its okay for men to practice birth control but not for women. How is that supposed to work?

And apparently, its okay for men to have sex for fun but not okay for women.

I notice above that several posters seem to be agreeing that an employer should be able to fire a woman for her reproductive decisions and choices but only one has had the gumption to vote that way in the poll.

The difference is Paying for your own birth control, as opposed to expecting it for free. I pay for my own condoms, and don't expect someone else to pick up the tab.

Read the links. That's not what its about at all.

And that lie is worn out anyway.

 

[danielpalos]

I've looked at several articles on this, from various sites and not one of them mentions condoms.

The Republicans think its okay for men to practice birth control but not for women. How is that supposed to work?

And apparently, its okay for men to have sex for fun but not okay for women.

I notice above that several posters seem to be agreeing that an employer should be able to fire a woman for her reproductive decisions and choices but only one has had the gumption to vote that way in the poll.

The difference is Paying for your own birth control, as opposed to expecting it for free. I pay for my own condoms, and don't expect someone else to pick up the tab.

I expect contraception to be as available as Viagra.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Clown Brigade all up in arms again about nothing that really matters.

As it says in the links, Repub presidential candidates have said they support this and they voted for it.

Edited to add - and of course, President Obama will veto it.

Does beating off count?

Actually, as we've seen here, some fundies do think masturbation is wrong, sinful, yadda yadda.

Wouldn't surprise me if the pubs want to outlaw that as well. Don't encourage them.

Do you even comprehend how idiotic you seem when you post comments like that?

That's not what your fellow religious zelots have said in the past. Do a search, read the threads.

And apparently, its okay for men to have sex for fun but not okay for women.

Could you explain the reasoning that you used to used to come to that ridiculous conclusion?

Since you cherry pick from posts, I'll say it again -

Read the links, read the posts.

There is no mention of condoms. Now, think it through.


WHY are so many RWs in favor of employees having access to such personal and private information about you?

Or is it that RW men here believe they would be somehow immune from Big Government Peeping Tom's?

 

[Muhammed]

Luddly, could you explain why you consider athiests to be religious zealots?

 

[martybegan]

I've looked at several articles on this, from various sites and not one of them mentions condoms.

The Republicans think its okay for men to practice birth control but not for women. How is that supposed to work?

And apparently, its okay for men to have sex for fun but not okay for women.

I notice above that several posters seem to be agreeing that an employer should be able to fire a woman for her reproductive decisions and choices but only one has had the gumption to vote that way in the poll.

The difference is Paying for your own birth control, as opposed to expecting it for free. I pay for my own condoms, and don't expect someone else to pick up the tab.

Read the links. That's not what its about at all.

And that lie is worn out anyway.

Responding to your statement, not the links, and to my opinion, not the article.

 

[JOSweetHeart]

I don't believe that its any of their business what their employees do away from the work place.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

While there are some obvious exceptions, ffor the most part, I agree with you.

Back in the 80s, the right pushed for laws that allowed employers to fire their employees if they smoked on their own time and away from their work place.

Because cigarettes have never been illegal, I don't how such a law could go through at all ever.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. What a person does with their body, to me, is between them and the Lord.

 

[jillian]

Do you really expect a site that bills itself as real liberal politics to have something remotely resembling reality?

poor rightwingnuts living in opposite world.

perhaps understanding would help.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I don't believe that its any of their business what their employees do away from the work place.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

While there are some obvious exceptions, ffor the most part, I agree with you.

Back in the 80s, the right pushed for laws that allowed employers to fire their employees if they smoked on their own time and away from their work place.

Because cigarettes have never been illegal, I don't how such a law could go through at all ever.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

P.S. What a person does with their body, to me, is between them and the Lord.

Birth control is not illegal either.

 

[Disir]

Bad move for the GOP. Say good bye GOP.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Bad move for the GOP. Say good bye GOP.

One would certainly think that would be people's reaction but that's not we're seeing here.

I suspect that people think the Rs mean "other people" but not them.

I was shocked to see presidential candidates openly supporting such incredibly invasive legislation.

 

[Disir]

Bad move for the GOP. Say good bye GOP.

One would certainly think that would be people's reaction but that's not we're seeing here.

I suspect that people think the Rs mean "other people" but not them.

I was shocked to see presidential candidates openly supporting such incredibly invasive legislation.

I don't think you were that shocked.

I'm still trying to figure out how they are going to legally ask those questions.

 

[jillian]

Bad move for the GOP. Say good bye GOP.

One would certainly think that would be people's reaction but that's not we're seeing here.

I suspect that people think the Rs mean "other people" but not them.

I was shocked to see presidential candidates openly supporting such incredibly invasive legislation.

not surprising. right now it's all about attracting the rightwingnut loons.