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If it's true we have no moral or legal entitlement to our pre-tax income, and we don't, you didn't build it alone.It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
No it’s not your money: Why taxation isn’t theft
"This feeling that your pre-tax income is ‘your money’ is difficult to shake.
"It’s hard not to see the pre-tax figure on your payslip as representing what’s really owing to you for the work you’ve done, and hence to feel that the state is taking away from you something that is yours by right.
"However, a little careful reflection shows this almost universal assumption to be utterly confused. There is no sense in which you have a right to your pre-tax income.
"To see this, we have to ask what kind of right it might be supposed one has to one’s pre-tax income.
"Presumably, it is either a legal right or a moral right.
"Once we separate out these alternatives, we can see that the former option is incoherent, whilst the latter is utterly implausible..."
If it's true we have no moral or legal entitlement to our pre-tax income, and we don't, you didn't build it alone.It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
No it’s not your money: Why taxation isn’t theft
"This feeling that your pre-tax income is ‘your money’ is difficult to shake.
"It’s hard not to see the pre-tax figure on your payslip as representing what’s really owing to you for the work you’ve done, and hence to feel that the state is taking away from you something that is yours by right.
"However, a little careful reflection shows this almost universal assumption to be utterly confused. There is no sense in which you have a right to your pre-tax income.
"To see this, we have to ask what kind of right it might be supposed one has to one’s pre-tax income.
"Presumably, it is either a legal right or a moral right.
"Once we separate out these alternatives, we can see that the former option is incoherent, whilst the latter is utterly implausible..."
I can't remember if it was on this site, but I have had to research and post the printing of money and the route it takes to get to your wallet because a lib claimed the money in my wallet belongs to the government.
He dropped his argument, but never admitted that he was wrong.
Liberals: All the intellectual honesty of a crack whore.
who taught you, are you saying it wasn't your parents?You taught yourself to read? Who fed and clothed you before you went to college? Sorry but I call bullshit.<-- Quit HS as a Junior because they /weren't/ teaching me anything.
Immediately went to college for 4yr computerized bookkeeping associates - taught idiot teachers how to format their hard drives and program calculators. Graduated a year early.
Started first job /while/ in college, assistant manager with no bookkeeping at all.
Ultimately became an Interim Executive - a position/field based on management and quickly learning a businesses business and very little bookkeeping.
Nope, my learned skills are all my own thanks.
who taught you, are you saying it wasn't your parents?
farmers and independent grocers. Who do you think brought the food in?My parents taught me to read and they clothed and fed me in exchange for "chores" until I was 16, at which point I moved out and was on my own. I had a job after school, I'd saved a bit for my truck, then after I moved out it paid enough for renting with some of my HS buddies. When I was 19 I bought a house with my husband, was making $20/h as an assistant manager for the local newspaper by then. I set aside 10% every month and given it to my buddy who wanted to be an investor. By the time I had my first kido at 21 I'd invested in the market (IBM, Texas Instruments, and Microsoft, then around 22 or so Oil) - the rest is history.
So how do you think your parents acquired food? Magicked it there through the air? They used our infrastructure.
Heated your home?
Provided you with healthcare?
It sounds like you're a net taker...Almost guaranteed
and it's what one did with that knowledge that made the individual. application was needed, one didn't just sit on the couch and job fell in one's lap. One had to learn, train, experiment, and fail to actually succeed. these goofs have no idea what an individual even is.who taught you, are you saying it wasn't your parents?
Dont we all learn from multiple sources? Parents, teachers, Bible school instructors, football coaches,e tc?
farmers and independent grocers. Who do you think brought the food in?My parents taught me to read and they clothed and fed me in exchange for "chores" until I was 16, at which point I moved out and was on my own. I had a job after school, I'd saved a bit for my truck, then after I moved out it paid enough for renting with some of my HS buddies. When I was 19 I bought a house with my husband, was making $20/h as an assistant manager for the local newspaper by then. I set aside 10% every month and given it to my buddy who wanted to be an investor. By the time I had my first kido at 21 I'd invested in the market (IBM, Texas Instruments, and Microsoft, then around 22 or so Oil) - the rest is history.
So how do you think your parents acquired food? Magicked it there through the air? They used our infrastructure.
Heated your home?
Provided you with healthcare?
It sounds like you're a net taker...Almost guaranteed
Some grew their own gardens, raised their own livestock, chickens. Home was heated by wood in the old days cut down by trees on the land.
Healthcare? a doctor in town and he/she got paid generously.
Who did all that for you?
Mother Nature grows gardens now instead of jungles?farmers and independent grocers. Who do you think brought the food in?My parents taught me to read and they clothed and fed me in exchange for "chores" until I was 16, at which point I moved out and was on my own. I had a job after school, I'd saved a bit for my truck, then after I moved out it paid enough for renting with some of my HS buddies. When I was 19 I bought a house with my husband, was making $20/h as an assistant manager for the local newspaper by then. I set aside 10% every month and given it to my buddy who wanted to be an investor. By the time I had my first kido at 21 I'd invested in the market (IBM, Texas Instruments, and Microsoft, then around 22 or so Oil) - the rest is history.
So how do you think your parents acquired food? Magicked it there through the air? They used our infrastructure.
Heated your home?
Provided you with healthcare?
It sounds like you're a net taker...Almost guaranteed
Some grew their own gardens, raised their own livestock, chickens. Home was heated by wood in the old days cut down by trees on the land.
Healthcare? a doctor in town and he/she got paid generously.
Who did all that for you?
Mother Nature
Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.
Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.
Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.
Luck often times enough plays a huge role in yours and my success. So I can only guess that bible thumpers like you aren't allowed to believe in luck.
As for me, I wouldn't depend on it, but it sure is nice when you find yourself up to your ass in alligators, and still manage to drain the swamp!
Mother Nature grows gardens now instead of jungles?farmers and independent grocers. Who do you think brought the food in?My parents taught me to read and they clothed and fed me in exchange for "chores" until I was 16, at which point I moved out and was on my own. I had a job after school, I'd saved a bit for my truck, then after I moved out it paid enough for renting with some of my HS buddies. When I was 19 I bought a house with my husband, was making $20/h as an assistant manager for the local newspaper by then. I set aside 10% every month and given it to my buddy who wanted to be an investor. By the time I had my first kido at 21 I'd invested in the market (IBM, Texas Instruments, and Microsoft, then around 22 or so Oil) - the rest is history.
So how do you think your parents acquired food? Magicked it there through the air? They used our infrastructure.
Heated your home?
Provided you with healthcare?
It sounds like you're a net taker...Almost guaranteed
Some grew their own gardens, raised their own livestock, chickens. Home was heated by wood in the old days cut down by trees on the land.
Healthcare? a doctor in town and he/she got paid generously.
Who did all that for you?
Mother Nature
When did that start? Its people that plant crops for farms, not Mother Fucking Nature.
BTW, some used their own homes as collateral to take out loans to develop a business. Investment bankers were sometimes needed. Each with their own skillset. One needs customers, actual people who want what one makes. That in itself is risky. It's called the risk factor and it is what one wishes to risk that is at stake each and every business. The government was not part of it. Taxes are paid, it is a mandatory need. That money is doled out to different contractors who themselves risk their own careers and lives. The build it on your own is a deflection phrase created to demean a productive citizen. Wow, how fking great that a politician does that. So the pres is saying fk you to the country. well fk him.If it's true we have no moral or legal entitlement to our pre-tax income, and we don't, you didn't build it alone.It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
No it’s not your money: Why taxation isn’t theft
"This feeling that your pre-tax income is ‘your money’ is difficult to shake.
"It’s hard not to see the pre-tax figure on your payslip as representing what’s really owing to you for the work you’ve done, and hence to feel that the state is taking away from you something that is yours by right.
"However, a little careful reflection shows this almost universal assumption to be utterly confused. There is no sense in which you have a right to your pre-tax income.
"To see this, we have to ask what kind of right it might be supposed one has to one’s pre-tax income.
"Presumably, it is either a legal right or a moral right.
"Once we separate out these alternatives, we can see that the former option is incoherent, whilst the latter is utterly implausible..."
I can't remember if it was on this site, but I have had to research and post the printing of money and the route it takes to get to your wallet because a lib claimed the money in my wallet belongs to the government.
He dropped his argument, but never admitted that he was wrong.
Liberals: All the intellectual honesty of a crack whore.
So what past successful nation did not have taxation of some kind?
If your goal is to destroy this nation, then sure, argue for no taxes to be collected by the government.
But every civilized nation from the dawn of mankind had a government tax to sustain the government so it could provide its necessary functions.
Who did not?
So your pre-tax income is truly 'not all yours' until the government has taken out its due, then it is all yours. This is an obvious and plain Truth.
Similarly no person has built their business solely with their own effort and did not get good use of our schools, roads, bridges, communication networks, immigration policies, etc. So no you did NOT build that without some help and because you got that help from the rest of us, you have to play nicely, by the rules and give something back to those who helped you.
And I really dont care if a nitwit like Elizabeth Warren said it first; a broken clock can still be right twice a day, but you still dont set your watch to it.
well technically one needs weather to grow crops. One needs sun to grow crops, one needs offspring to maintain livestock. I understand where that person went.Mother Nature grows gardens now instead of jungles?farmers and independent grocers. Who do you think brought the food in?My parents taught me to read and they clothed and fed me in exchange for "chores" until I was 16, at which point I moved out and was on my own. I had a job after school, I'd saved a bit for my truck, then after I moved out it paid enough for renting with some of my HS buddies. When I was 19 I bought a house with my husband, was making $20/h as an assistant manager for the local newspaper by then. I set aside 10% every month and given it to my buddy who wanted to be an investor. By the time I had my first kido at 21 I'd invested in the market (IBM, Texas Instruments, and Microsoft, then around 22 or so Oil) - the rest is history.
So how do you think your parents acquired food? Magicked it there through the air? They used our infrastructure.
Heated your home?
Provided you with healthcare?
It sounds like you're a net taker...Almost guaranteed
Some grew their own gardens, raised their own livestock, chickens. Home was heated by wood in the old days cut down by trees on the land.
Healthcare? a doctor in town and he/she got paid generously.
Who did all that for you?
Mother Nature
When did that start? Its people that plant crops for farms, not Mother Fucking Nature.
all of that happens each and everyday. Without government involvement.Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.
Luck often times enough plays a huge role in yours and my success. So I can only guess that bible thumpers like you aren't allowed to believe in luck.
As for me, I wouldn't depend on it, but it sure is nice when you find yourself up to your ass in alligators, and still manage to drain the swamp!
Or land in a world of shit, and still come out smelling like a rose! That's all about luck my friend.
If it's true we have no moral or legal entitlement to our pre-tax income, and we don't, you didn't build it alone.It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
No it’s not your money: Why taxation isn’t theft
"This feeling that your pre-tax income is ‘your money’ is difficult to shake.
"It’s hard not to see the pre-tax figure on your payslip as representing what’s really owing to you for the work you’ve done, and hence to feel that the state is taking away from you something that is yours by right.
"However, a little careful reflection shows this almost universal assumption to be utterly confused. There is no sense in which you have a right to your pre-tax income.
"To see this, we have to ask what kind of right it might be supposed one has to one’s pre-tax income.
"Presumably, it is either a legal right or a moral right.
"Once we separate out these alternatives, we can see that the former option is incoherent, whilst the latter is utterly implausible..."
I can't remember if it was on this site, but I have had to research and post the printing of money and the route it takes to get to your wallet because a lib claimed the money in my wallet belongs to the government.
He dropped his argument, but never admitted that he was wrong.
Liberals: All the intellectual honesty of a crack whore.
So what past successful nation did not have taxation of some kind?
If your goal is to destroy this nation, then sure, argue for no taxes to be collected by the government.
But every civilized nation from the dawn of mankind had a government tax to sustain the government so it could provide its necessary functions.
Who did not?
So your pre-tax income is truly 'not all yours' until the government has taken out its due, then it is all yours. This is an obvious and plain Truth.
Similarly no person has built their business solely with their own effort and did not get good use of our schools, roads, bridges, communication networks, immigration policies, etc. So no you did NOT build that without some help and because you got that help from the rest of us, you have to play nicely, by the rules and give something back to those who helped you.
And I really dont care if a nitwit like Elizabeth Warren said it first; a broken clock can still be right twice a day, but you still dont set your watch to it.
BTW, some used their own homes as collateral to take out loans to develop a business. Investment bankers were sometimes needed. Each with their own skillset. One needs customers, actual people who want what one makes. That in itself is risky. It's called the risk factor and it is what one wishes to risk that is at stake each and every business. The government was not part of it. Taxes are paid, it is a mandatory need. That money is doled out to different contractors who themselves risk their own careers and lives. The build it on your own is a deflection phrase created to demean a productive citizen. Wow, how fking great that a politician does that. So the pres is saying fk you to the country. well fk him.If it's true we have no moral or legal entitlement to our pre-tax income, and we don't, you didn't build it alone.It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
No it’s not your money: Why taxation isn’t theft
"This feeling that your pre-tax income is ‘your money’ is difficult to shake.
"It’s hard not to see the pre-tax figure on your payslip as representing what’s really owing to you for the work you’ve done, and hence to feel that the state is taking away from you something that is yours by right.
"However, a little careful reflection shows this almost universal assumption to be utterly confused. There is no sense in which you have a right to your pre-tax income.
"To see this, we have to ask what kind of right it might be supposed one has to one’s pre-tax income.
"Presumably, it is either a legal right or a moral right.
"Once we separate out these alternatives, we can see that the former option is incoherent, whilst the latter is utterly implausible..."
I can't remember if it was on this site, but I have had to research and post the printing of money and the route it takes to get to your wallet because a lib claimed the money in my wallet belongs to the government.
He dropped his argument, but never admitted that he was wrong.
Liberals: All the intellectual honesty of a crack whore.
So what past successful nation did not have taxation of some kind?
If your goal is to destroy this nation, then sure, argue for no taxes to be collected by the government.
But every civilized nation from the dawn of mankind had a government tax to sustain the government so it could provide its necessary functions.
Who did not?
So your pre-tax income is truly 'not all yours' until the government has taken out its due, then it is all yours. This is an obvious and plain Truth.
Similarly no person has built their business solely with their own effort and did not get good use of our schools, roads, bridges, communication networks, immigration policies, etc. So no you did NOT build that without some help and because you got that help from the rest of us, you have to play nicely, by the rules and give something back to those who helped you.
And I really dont care if a nitwit like Elizabeth Warren said it first; a broken clock can still be right twice a day, but you still dont set your watch to it.
"Bible thumper like you"?Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.Obama, July 13, 2012:
I'm always struck by people who think, "wow, it must be because I was just so smart". There are a lot of smart people out there! "It must be because I worked harder than everybody else". Let me tell you something: There are a whole bunch of hard working people out there!
Obama, Howard University, May 7, 2016:
And that means we have to not only question the world as it is, and stand up for those African Americans who haven’t been so lucky -- because, yes, you've worked hard, but you've also been lucky. That's a pet peeve of mine: People who have been successful and don’t realize they've been lucky. That God may have blessed them; it wasn’t nothing (sic) you did.
It wasn't nothing (sic) you did. You didn't build that.
That's quite a message. That's our slogan now. America, 2016.
.
Luck often times enough plays a huge role in yours and my success. So I can only guess that bible thumpers like you aren't allowed to believe in luck.
As for me, I wouldn't depend on it, but it sure is nice when you find yourself up to your ass in alligators, and still manage to drain the swamp!
Or land in a world of shit, and still come out smelling like a rose! That's all about luck my friend.
