Yet Another Israeli Injustice To Palestinians

[MJB12741]

Aw, bless you dear for asking to learn some of Israel's endless contributions to the world. Would you like to learn way more?

Amazing Israeli contributions to the World News24

I am not bothering to read a list , thanks to Germany and American universities and the Zionist movement.

Now what I asked for Marg, a list before 1 AD. I would like to know what the Jews invented and gave to the world?? (Before their migration to all the European cities and the USA)

and then if you could please tell my why you need American aid.

Hey look at the bright side. Keep sending you tax dollars to Israel & I will tell Israel to plant a tree in your name to thank you.

No thanks.

Don't you think it would be wonderful if Israel ended their damn Zionist agenda of peace offerings, a security fence & land concesssions to Palestinians & started treated them with the same love, justice & respect they have been accustomed to from the surrounding Arab countries?

When you respond to my question which you completely ignore, I'll respond to yours.

Fair enough. And just WHAT is your question?

 

[peach174]

As soon as Israel turned the wasteland into a thriving metropolis, here came hoards of Palestinians to claim it's their land. So what does Israel do? They make peace offerings to the Palestinian, build a security fence, grant them their own land so the Palestinians can stay & even save their lives in Israeli hospitals. Shame on those Zionists in Israel for finding ways to get Israeli's killed by Palestinians.

Wow, you are truly out of your mind and brainwashed. So, a bunch of Europeans invade Palestine, take the homes and land from the people who live there evict them and the Palestinians should be grateful. Do you even realize what a nutcase you are?

NO the Ottoman Empire invaded the Europeans.
The people of Palestine rejected the offer to have their own homeland. They were used by the other Arab nations.
Learn by reading the history not propaganda.

 

[montelatici]

As soon as Israel turned the wasteland into a thriving metropolis, here came hoards of Palestinians to claim it's their land. So what does Israel do? They make peace offerings to the Palestinian, build a security fence, grant them their own land so the Palestinians can stay & even save their lives in Israeli hospitals. Shame on those Zionists in Israel for finding ways to get Israeli's killed by Palestinians.

Wow, you are truly out of your mind and brainwashed. So, a bunch of Europeans invade Palestine, take the homes and land from the people who live there evict them and the Palestinians should be grateful. Do you even realize what a nutcase you are?

NO the Ottoman Empire invaded the Europeans.
The people of Palestine rejected the offer to have their own homeland. They were used by the other Arab nations.
Learn by reading the history not propaganda.

All the propaganda comes from the side that invaded and stole land. There is always an attempt to justify theft and injustice. It just only works with dummies like you. The people of Palestine rejected being ethnically cleansed to make way for the Jews. When the ethnic cleansing began, Arab neighbors attempted to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims. They were unsuccessful, obviously.

Now facts, not the propaganda you believe in:

"On September 3, UNSCOP issued its report to the General Assembly declaring its majority recommendation that Palestine be partitioned into separate Jewish and Arab states. It noted that the population of Palestine at the end of 1946 was estimated to be almost 1,846,000, with 1,203,000 Arabs (65 percent) and 608,000 Jews (33 percent). Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase. It observed that there was “no clear territorial separation of Jews and Arabs by large contiguous areas”, and even in the Jaffa district, which included Tel Aviv, Arabs constituted a majority.[5] Land ownership statistics from 1945 showed that Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district in Palestine. The district with the highest percentage of Jewish ownership was Jaffa, where 39 percent of the land was owned by Jews, compared to 47 percent owned by Arabs.[6] In the whole of Palestine at the time UNSCOP issued its report, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land,[7] while Jews owned less than 7 percent.[8]

Despite these facts, the UNSCOP proposal was that the Arab state be constituted from only 45.5 percent of the whole of Palestine, while the Jews would be awarded 55.5 percent of the total area for their state.[9] The UNSCOP report acknowledged that

With regard to the principle of self-determination, although international recognition was extended to this principle at the end of the First World War and it was adhered to with regard to the other Arab territories, at the time of the creation of the ‘A’ Mandates, it was not applied to Palestine, obviously because of the intention to make possible the creation of the Jewish National Home there. Actually, it may well be said that the Jewish National Home and the sui generis Mandate for Palestine run counter to that principle.[10]

In other words, the report explicitly recognized that the denial of Palestinian independence in order to pursue the goal of establishing a Jewish state constituted a rejection of the right of the Arab majority to self-determination. And yet, despite this recognition, UNSCOP had accepted this rejection of Arab rights as being within the bounds of a legitimate and reasonable framework for a solution.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Foreign Policy Journal

 

[Phoenall]

Amazing . . . with billions upon billions upon billions of American taxpayer's dollars, it's hard to believe that Israel was capable of turning a wasteland into a thriving metropolis <guffaw>. ~ Susan
PS Ohhh MJ, you Zionist kid you <snicker>.

And Germany's money.

Well it was Germany's ally that provided the land for Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and Palestine along with the money to develop the area. They only spent the money on weapons so they could kill each other. Unlike Israel that spent the money on building a better nation and the rest of mankind, can you tell me what the muslims have invented that helps all of mankind ?

So the pagan Jews hired people to build a city with money from the US , Zionist Jews and Germany, and what is that giving to us? The only thing I can see that came from it is wars and unrest in the ME, and more in the future.

Cheap medical equipment for starters, many innovations in medicine, plenty of innovations in computers, many new practises in food production. Do you know anyone who has had a heart attack in the last 20 years because it will have been Israeli technology that will have saved their lives. Now what have the Palestinians ever done for the betterment of mankind, apart from violence, blood lust and terrorism

nothing specific I see. I am aware that the Jews take credit for others all throughout history. Now name me one thing before 1 AD.

Name one thing the Palestinians did before October 2014 that has been of benefit to mankind ?

 

[Phoenall]

[/COLOR]As soon as Israel turned the wasteland into a thriving metropolis, here came hoards of Palestinians to claim it's their land. So what does Israel do? They make peace offerings to the Plaestinians, build a security fence, grant them their own land so the Palestinians can stay & even save their lives in Israeli hospitals. Shame on those Zionists in Israel for finding ways to get Israeli's killed by Palestinains.

Amazing . . . with billions upon billions upon billions of American taxpayer's dollars, it's hard to believe that Israel was capable of turning a wasteland into a thriving metropolis <guffaw>. ~ Susan
PS Ohhh MJ, you Zionist kid you <snicker>.

Have you even bothered to look at the truth about these billions of dollars, and just who gets 10 times as much aid as Israel does. By the way it wasn't Israel as it did not exist, but it was the Jews who migrated to Palestine at the request of the Ottomans who turned the wastelands of Palestine into fertile farmlands. That is why the arab muslims flocked to the area looking for work. If you also check you will find that while Jewish people were looking at ways to improve the crops the arab muslims were destroying what land they had by bad farming practises. Just look at modern day Israel and you will see green as far as the eye can see, and all done on less than 17 litres of water per person per day. The Palestinians are using 30 to 50 litres per person per day and still they want more because they are to used to waste.

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e

Amazing . . . with billions upon billions upon billions of American taxpayer's dollars, it's hard to believe that Israel was capable of turning a wasteland into a thriving metropolis <guffaw>. ~ Susan
PS Ohhh MJ, you Zionist kid you <snicker>.

And Germany's money.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists in Israel would help free the Palestinians from Israel's bondage by finding an incentive to offer the surrounding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands?

They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

[/COLOR]As soon as Israel turned the wasteland into a thriving metropolis, here came hoards of Palestinians to claim it's their land. So what does Israel do? They make peace offerings to the Plaestinians, build a security fence, grant them their own land so the Palestinians can stay & even save their lives in Israeli hospitals. Shame on those Zionists in Israel for finding ways to get Israeli's killed by Palestinains.

Amazing . . . with billions upon billions upon billions of American taxpayer's dollars, it's hard to believe that Israel was capable of turning a wasteland into a thriving metropolis <guffaw>. ~ Susan
PS Ohhh MJ, you Zionist kid you <snicker>.

Have you even bothered to look at the truth about these billions of dollars, and just who gets 10 times as much aid as Israel does. By the way it wasn't Israel as it did not exist, but it was the Jews who migrated to Palestine at the request of the Ottomans who turned the wastelands of Palestine into fertile farmlands. That is why the arab muslims flocked to the area looking for work. If you also check you will find that while Jewish people were looking at ways to improve the crops the arab muslims were destroying what land they had by bad farming practises. Just look at modern day Israel and you will see green as far as the eye can see, and all done on less than 17 litres of water per person per day. The Palestinians are using 30 to 50 litres per person per day and still they want more because they are to used to waste.

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e

Amazing . . . with billions upon billions upon billions of American taxpayer's dollars, it's hard to believe that Israel was capable of turning a wasteland into a thriving metropolis <guffaw>. ~ Susan
PS Ohhh MJ, you Zionist kid you <snicker>.

And Germany's money.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists in Israel would help free the Palestinians from Israel's bondage by finding an incentive to offer the surrounding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands?

They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

You want the Israelis to give back land they purchased from Arabs?

They need to go back to the illegal UN resolution of 1948 land divide. The fews farml ands they bought in the early 1900's didn't amount to much. So yes I do.

What was illegal about it and what lands did the Palestinians own after 1919 ?

 

[José]

Originally posted by Phoenall
Name one thing the Palestinians did before October 2014 that has been of benefit to mankind ?

Einstein never needed any jewish state to be the greatest physicist in human history together with Isaac Newton.

American Jews don't need any jewish state to give a huge contribution to science, arts and literature.

They do it being only 3% of the US population.

The state of Israel never invented shit.

Jews did... and they would do it with or without the murderous zionist state.

But people like you just can't stop parroting this bullshit.

 

[Phoenall]

Well it was Germany's ally that provided the land for Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and Palestine along with the money to develop the area. They only spent the money on weapons so they could kill each other. Unlike Israel that spent the money on building a better nation and the rest of mankind, can you tell me what the muslims have invented that helps all of mankind ?

So the pagan Jews hired people to build a city with money from the US , Zionist Jews and Germany, and what is that giving to us? The only thing I can see that came from it is wars and unrest in the ME, and more in the future.

Jews are not Pagans, actually the first Monotheistic religion in history.
The rest is just a bunch of self opposing nonsense, you are talking about who established Israel? Fine as long as you are willing to answer the same question about the rest of the world or at least the ME and in case it gets a little complicated you can simply start with the virtual Palestinian state of no borders claiming over a designated state territory with all means necessary.

You don't even believe your own OT. Ezra ok, Its one thing to worship your own God when things are going well, but to yet believe and then go off and worship other Gods is quite another. You were never true monotheists, because even your Kings would build altars to other God, and intermarriage was a huge problem was it not.

Intermarriage was forbidden once God gave the Tablets of Stone, not before, however I have no idea what you're trying to squeeze out of this, so be specific, and I'll gladly explain every matter in detail.

Moses wrote the stone tablets, Ezra came later and wrote on skins. Is that not right, and so why does the timing matter anyway. I also do not see where the intermarriage ended.

And a mentally deranged ( look it up even Islamic doctors say he was deranged ) psychopathic paedophile dictated the Koran and changed his mind nearly every day over what wording was correct for which chapter. He also brought in 3 wives for allah to pacify one tribe of arabs who worshiped them, then banned marriage outside of islam because he did not want anyone with intelligence to become a muslim

 

[montelatici]

Amazing . . . with billions upon billions upon billions of American taxpayer's dollars, it's hard to believe that Israel was capable of turning a wasteland into a thriving metropolis <guffaw>. ~ Susan
PS Ohhh MJ, you Zionist kid you <snicker>.

Have you even bothered to look at the truth about these billions of dollars, and just who gets 10 times as much aid as Israel does. By the way it wasn't Israel as it did not exist, but it was the Jews who migrated to Palestine at the request of the Ottomans who turned the wastelands of Palestine into fertile farmlands. That is why the arab muslims flocked to the area looking for work. If you also check you will find that while Jewish people were looking at ways to improve the crops the arab muslims were destroying what land they had by bad farming practises. Just look at modern day Israel and you will see green as far as the eye can see, and all done on less than 17 litres of water per person per day. The Palestinians are using 30 to 50 litres per person per day and still they want more because they are to used to waste.

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e

And Germany's money.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists in Israel would help free the Palestinians from Israel's bondage by finding an incentive to offer the surrounding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands?

They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

Amazing . . . with billions upon billions upon billions of American taxpayer's dollars, it's hard to believe that Israel was capable of turning a wasteland into a thriving metropolis <guffaw>. ~ Susan
PS Ohhh MJ, you Zionist kid you <snicker>.

Have you even bothered to look at the truth about these billions of dollars, and just who gets 10 times as much aid as Israel does. By the way it wasn't Israel as it did not exist, but it was the Jews who migrated to Palestine at the request of the Ottomans who turned the wastelands of Palestine into fertile farmlands. That is why the arab muslims flocked to the area looking for work. If you also check you will find that while Jewish people were looking at ways to improve the crops the arab muslims were destroying what land they had by bad farming practises. Just look at modern day Israel and you will see green as far as the eye can see, and all done on less than 17 litres of water per person per day. The Palestinians are using 30 to 50 litres per person per day and still they want more because they are to used to waste.

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e

And Germany's money.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists in Israel would help free the Palestinians from Israel's bondage by finding an incentive to offer the surrounding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands?

They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

You want the Israelis to give back land they purchased from Arabs?

They need to go back to the illegal UN resolution of 1948 land divide. The fews farml ands they bought in the early 1900's didn't amount to much. So yes I do.

What was illegal about it and what lands did the Palestinians own after 1919 ?

Well, the Survey of Palestine of 1943 says quite a lot of land, in fact, over 90%. Why do you open yourself up to such humiliation. Face it, you just spout Zionist propaganda, which is so far from the truth it is ridiculous.

"Ownership of Land in Palestine By Religion in 1943, British Mandate: "A Survey of Palestine": Volume II - Page 566. Chapter XIV: Finance: Section 5

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"On September 3, UNSCOP issued its report to the General Assembly declaring its majority recommendation that Palestine be partitioned into separate Jewish and Arab states. It noted that the population of Palestine at the end of 1946 was estimated to be almost 1,846,000, with 1,203,000 Arabs (65 percent) and 608,000 Jews (33 percent). Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase. It observed that there was “no clear territorial separation of Jews and Arabs by large contiguous areas”, and even in the Jaffa district, which included Tel Aviv, Arabs constituted a majority.[5] Land ownership statistics from 1945 showed that Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district in Palestine. The district with the highest percentage of Jewish ownership was Jaffa, where 39 percent of the land was owned by Jews, compared to 47 percent owned by Arabs.[6] In the whole of Palestine at the time UNSCOP issued its report, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land,[7] while Jews owned less than 7 percent.[8]

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Foreign Policy Journal

 

[Phoenall]

WHY ? You know that this would lead to the land being taken from the Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

And Germany's money.

Well it was Germany's ally that provided the land for Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and Palestine along with the money to develop the area. They only spent the money on weapons so they could kill each other. Unlike Israel that spent the money on building a better nation and the rest of mankind, can you tell me what the muslims have invented that helps all of mankind ?

Israel's positive contributions to the world are endless. But let us also consider all of the Palestinians contributions to a better world. Fair enough everone?

Really, name a few.

Aw, bless you dear for asking to learn some of Israel's endless contributions to the world. Would you like to learn way more?

Amazing Israeli contributions to the World News24

Who cares. Nazis contributed quite a bit in terms of technology too. Where do you think Von Braun and his colleagues came from.?

And what have the Palestinians contributed to mankind, after all they are the most educated people on the Planet.

 

[Phoenall]

And Germany's money.

Well it was Germany's ally that provided the land for Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and Palestine along with the money to develop the area. They only spent the money on weapons so they could kill each other. Unlike Israel that spent the money on building a better nation and the rest of mankind, can you tell me what the muslims have invented that helps all of mankind ?

Israel's positive contributions to the world are endless. But let us also consider all of the Palestinians contributions to a better world. Fair enough everone?

Really, name a few.

Aw, bless you dear for asking to learn some of Israel's endless contributions to the world. Would you like to learn way more?

Amazing Israeli contributions to the World News24

I am not bothering to read a list , thanks to Germany and American universities and the Zionist movement.

Now what I asked for Marg, a list before 1 AD. I would like to know what the Jews invented and gave to the world?? (Before their migration to all the European cities and the USA)

and then if you could please tell my why you need American aid.

The last is easy as the arab muslims forced it on them when they agreed peace terms, you see it was part of the deal and before then Israel did not receive any aid from the US

 

[montelatici]

WHY ? You know that this would lead to the land being taken from the Jews.

Talk about a non sequitur. LOL

 

[Phoenall]

As soon as Israel turned the wasteland into a thriving metropolis, here came hoards of Palestinians to claim it's their land. So what does Israel do? They make peace offerings to the Palestinian, build a security fence, grant them their own land so the Palestinians can stay & even save their lives in Israeli hospitals. Shame on those Zionists in Israel for finding ways to get Israeli's killed by Palestinians.

Wow, you are truly out of your mind and brainwashed. So, a bunch of Europeans invade Palestine, take the homes and land from the people who live there evict them and the Palestinians should be grateful. Do you even realize what a nutcase you are?

NO the Ottoman Empire invaded the Europeans.
The people of Palestine rejected the offer to have their own homeland. They were used by the other Arab nations.
Learn by reading the history not propaganda.

All the propaganda comes from the side that invaded and stole land. There is always an attempt to justify theft and injustice. It just only works with dummies like you. The people of Palestine rejected being ethnically cleansed to make way for the Jews. When the ethnic cleansing began, Arab neighbors attempted to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims. They were unsuccessful, obviously.

Now facts, not the propaganda you believe in:

"On September 3, UNSCOP issued its report to the General Assembly declaring its majority recommendation that Palestine be partitioned into separate Jewish and Arab states. It noted that the population of Palestine at the end of 1946 was estimated to be almost 1,846,000, with 1,203,000 Arabs (65 percent) and 608,000 Jews (33 percent). Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase. It observed that there was “no clear territorial separation of Jews and Arabs by large contiguous areas”, and even in the Jaffa district, which included Tel Aviv, Arabs constituted a majority.[5] Land ownership statistics from 1945 showed that Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district in Palestine. The district with the highest percentage of Jewish ownership was Jaffa, where 39 percent of the land was owned by Jews, compared to 47 percent owned by Arabs.[6] In the whole of Palestine at the time UNSCOP issued its report, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land,[7] while Jews owned less than 7 percent.[8]

Despite these facts, the UNSCOP proposal was that the Arab state be constituted from only 45.5 percent of the whole of Palestine, while the Jews would be awarded 55.5 percent of the total area for their state.[9] The UNSCOP report acknowledged that

With regard to the principle of self-determination, although international recognition was extended to this principle at the end of the First World War and it was adhered to with regard to the other Arab territories, at the time of the creation of the ‘A’ Mandates, it was not applied to Palestine, obviously because of the intention to make possible the creation of the Jewish National Home there. Actually, it may well be said that the Jewish National Home and the sui generis Mandate for Palestine run counter to that principle.[10]

In other words, the report explicitly recognized that the denial of Palestinian independence in order to pursue the goal of establishing a Jewish state constituted a rejection of the right of the Arab majority to self-determination. And yet, despite this recognition, UNSCOP had accepted this rejection of Arab rights as being within the bounds of a legitimate and reasonable framework for a solution.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Foreign Policy Journal

Which is far from fair as the Palestinians had already been given 77% of the land of Palestine as their homeland.

 

[montelatici]

Well it was Germany's ally that provided the land for Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, and Palestine along with the money to develop the area. They only spent the money on weapons so they could kill each other. Unlike Israel that spent the money on building a better nation and the rest of mankind, can you tell me what the muslims have invented that helps all of mankind ?

Israel's positive contributions to the world are endless. But let us also consider all of the Palestinians contributions to a better world. Fair enough everone?

Really, name a few.

Aw, bless you dear for asking to learn some of Israel's endless contributions to the world. Would you like to learn way more?

Amazing Israeli contributions to the World News24

I am not bothering to read a list , thanks to Germany and American universities and the Zionist movement.

Now what I asked for Marg, a list before 1 AD. I would like to know what the Jews invented and gave to the world?? (Before their migration to all the European cities and the USA)

and then if you could please tell my why you need American aid.

As soon as Israel turned the wasteland into a thriving metropolis, here came hoards of Palestinians to claim it's their land. So what does Israel do? They make peace offerings to the Palestinian, build a security fence, grant them their own land so the Palestinians can stay & even save their lives in Israeli hospitals. Shame on those Zionists in Israel for finding ways to get Israeli's killed by Palestinians.

Wow, you are truly out of your mind and brainwashed. So, a bunch of Europeans invade Palestine, take the homes and land from the people who live there evict them and the Palestinians should be grateful. Do you even realize what a nutcase you are?

NO the Ottoman Empire invaded the Europeans.
The people of Palestine rejected the offer to have their own homeland. They were used by the other Arab nations.
Learn by reading the history not propaganda.

All the propaganda comes from the side that invaded and stole land. There is always an attempt to justify theft and injustice. It just only works with dummies like you. The people of Palestine rejected being ethnically cleansed to make way for the Jews. When the ethnic cleansing began, Arab neighbors attempted to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims. They were unsuccessful, obviously.

Now facts, not the propaganda you believe in:

"On September 3, UNSCOP issued its report to the General Assembly declaring its majority recommendation that Palestine be partitioned into separate Jewish and Arab states. It noted that the population of Palestine at the end of 1946 was estimated to be almost 1,846,000, with 1,203,000 Arabs (65 percent) and 608,000 Jews (33 percent). Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase. It observed that there was “no clear territorial separation of Jews and Arabs by large contiguous areas”, and even in the Jaffa district, which included Tel Aviv, Arabs constituted a majority.[5] Land ownership statistics from 1945 showed that Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district in Palestine. The district with the highest percentage of Jewish ownership was Jaffa, where 39 percent of the land was owned by Jews, compared to 47 percent owned by Arabs.[6] In the whole of Palestine at the time UNSCOP issued its report, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land,[7] while Jews owned less than 7 percent.[8]

Despite these facts, the UNSCOP proposal was that the Arab state be constituted from only 45.5 percent of the whole of Palestine, while the Jews would be awarded 55.5 percent of the total area for their state.[9] The UNSCOP report acknowledged that

With regard to the principle of self-determination, although international recognition was extended to this principle at the end of the First World War and it was adhered to with regard to the other Arab territories, at the time of the creation of the ‘A’ Mandates, it was not applied to Palestine, obviously because of the intention to make possible the creation of the Jewish National Home there. Actually, it may well be said that the Jewish National Home and the sui generis Mandate for Palestine run counter to that principle.[10]

In other words, the report explicitly recognized that the denial of Palestinian independence in order to pursue the goal of establishing a Jewish state constituted a rejection of the right of the Arab majority to self-determination. And yet, despite this recognition, UNSCOP had accepted this rejection of Arab rights as being within the bounds of a legitimate and reasonable framework for a solution.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Foreign Policy Journal

Which is far from fair as the Palestinians had already been given 77% of the land of Palestine as their homeland.

The last is easy as the arab muslims forced it on them when they agreed peace terms, you see it was part of the deal and before then Israel did not receive any aid from the US

No one believes you Phoney, the source material contradicts you (and your brainwashed buddies) and scholars contradict everything you write. Why is that?

 

[José]

Originally posted by Phoenall
Which is far from fair as the Palestinians had already been given 77% of the land of Palestine as their homeland.

They are not Jordanians, dummy...

They don't see the land east of the River Jordan as part of their homeland.

Fuck... If everybody in the UK had your intellectual level the country would be poorer than Haiti.

 

[Phoenall]

Have you even bothered to look at the truth about these billions of dollars, and just who gets 10 times as much aid as Israel does. By the way it wasn't Israel as it did not exist, but it was the Jews who migrated to Palestine at the request of the Ottomans who turned the wastelands of Palestine into fertile farmlands. That is why the arab muslims flocked to the area looking for work. If you also check you will find that while Jewish people were looking at ways to improve the crops the arab muslims were destroying what land they had by bad farming practises. Just look at modern day Israel and you will see green as far as the eye can see, and all done on less than 17 litres of water per person per day. The Palestinians are using 30 to 50 litres per person per day and still they want more because they are to used to waste.

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e

Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists in Israel would help free the Palestinians from Israel's bondage by finding an incentive to offer the surrounding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands?

They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

Have you even bothered to look at the truth about these billions of dollars, and just who gets 10 times as much aid as Israel does. By the way it wasn't Israel as it did not exist, but it was the Jews who migrated to Palestine at the request of the Ottomans who turned the wastelands of Palestine into fertile farmlands. That is why the arab muslims flocked to the area looking for work. If you also check you will find that while Jewish people were looking at ways to improve the crops the arab muslims were destroying what land they had by bad farming practises. Just look at modern day Israel and you will see green as far as the eye can see, and all done on less than 17 litres of water per person per day. The Palestinians are using 30 to 50 litres per person per day and still they want more because they are to used to waste.

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e

Wouldn't it be wonderful if those Zionists in Israel would help free the Palestinians from Israel's bondage by finding an incentive to offer the surrounding Arab countries to grant their Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands?

They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

You want the Israelis to give back land they purchased from Arabs?

They need to go back to the illegal UN resolution of 1948 land divide. The fews farml ands they bought in the early 1900's didn't amount to much. So yes I do.

What was illegal about it and what lands did the Palestinians own after 1919 ?

Well, the Survey of Palestine of 1943 says quite a lot of land, in fact, over 90%. Why do you open yourself up to such humiliation. Face it, you just spout Zionist propaganda, which is so far from the truth it is ridiculous.

"Ownership of Land in Palestine By Religion in 1943, British Mandate: "A Survey of Palestine": Volume II - Page 566. Chapter XIV: Finance: Section 5

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"On September 3, UNSCOP issued its report to the General Assembly declaring its majority recommendation that Palestine be partitioned into separate Jewish and Arab states. It noted that the population of Palestine at the end of 1946 was estimated to be almost 1,846,000, with 1,203,000 Arabs (65 percent) and 608,000 Jews (33 percent). Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase. It observed that there was “no clear territorial separation of Jews and Arabs by large contiguous areas”, and even in the Jaffa district, which included Tel Aviv, Arabs constituted a majority.[5] Land ownership statistics from 1945 showed that Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district in Palestine. The district with the highest percentage of Jewish ownership was Jaffa, where 39 percent of the land was owned by Jews, compared to 47 percent owned by Arabs.[6] In the whole of Palestine at the time UNSCOP issued its report, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land,[7] while Jews owned less than 7 percent.[8]

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Foreign Policy Journal

From your C&P it shows that arab Palestinians owned 0.8% of the land while the Jews owned 4.2%.

You are mixing up land usage with ownerfship, the majority of the arab muslims were Tenant farmers who paid rent for their land they did not own it outright. Just look at the levels of tax collected and you see the disparity that shows the arab muslims were failures at farming.

 

[montelatici]

Phoney certainly is challenged in many respects. But that's not say that his buddies are much better off. They spout Zionist nonsense that is so easily discredited with source material, that it becomes tiresome.

 

[Phoenall]

WHY ? You know that this would lead to the land being taken from the Jews.

Talk about a non sequitur. LOL

It is their land under INTERNATIONAL LAW as decreed by a UN proclamation to this effect

 

[montelatici]

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e
They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

Them German Jews did learn a lot and also thanks to the US as well, but the real Hebrews or Jews , whatever, were never able to hold onto any land in Israel. never was the Isralites e
They are on their land, only not all of it. Give it back and free them. Why should they leave.

You want the Israelis to give back land they purchased from Arabs?

They need to go back to the illegal UN resolution of 1948 land divide. The fews farml ands they bought in the early 1900's didn't amount to much. So yes I do.

What was illegal about it and what lands did the Palestinians own after 1919 ?

Well, the Survey of Palestine of 1943 says quite a lot of land, in fact, over 90%. Why do you open yourself up to such humiliation. Face it, you just spout Zionist propaganda, which is so far from the truth it is ridiculous.

"Ownership of Land in Palestine By Religion in 1943, British Mandate: "A Survey of Palestine": Volume II - Page 566. Chapter XIV: Finance: Section 5

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"On September 3, UNSCOP issued its report to the General Assembly declaring its majority recommendation that Palestine be partitioned into separate Jewish and Arab states. It noted that the population of Palestine at the end of 1946 was estimated to be almost 1,846,000, with 1,203,000 Arabs (65 percent) and 608,000 Jews (33 percent). Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase. It observed that there was “no clear territorial separation of Jews and Arabs by large contiguous areas”, and even in the Jaffa district, which included Tel Aviv, Arabs constituted a majority.[5] Land ownership statistics from 1945 showed that Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district in Palestine. The district with the highest percentage of Jewish ownership was Jaffa, where 39 percent of the land was owned by Jews, compared to 47 percent owned by Arabs.[6] In the whole of Palestine at the time UNSCOP issued its report, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land,[7] while Jews owned less than 7 percent.[8]

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Foreign Policy Journal

From your C&P it shows that arab Palestinians owned 0.8% of the land while the Jews owned 4.2%.

You are mixing up land usage with ownerfship, the majority of the arab muslims were Tenant farmers who paid rent for their land they did not own it outright. Just look at the levels of tax collected and you see the disparity that shows the arab muslims were failures at farming.

The title on the table states land ownership you dimwit. Non-Jews owned over 24 million dunums and Jews about 1.5 million dunums.

 

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As soon as Israel turned the wasteland into a thriving metropolis, here came hoards of Palestinians to claim it's their land. So what does Israel do? They make peace offerings to the Palestinian, build a security fence, grant them their own land so the Palestinians can stay & even save their lives in Israeli hospitals. Shame on those Zionists in Israel for finding ways to get Israeli's killed by Palestinians.

Wow, you are truly out of your mind and brainwashed. So, a bunch of Europeans invade Palestine, take the homes and land from the people who live there evict them and the Palestinians should be grateful. Do you even realize what a nutcase you are?

NO the Ottoman Empire invaded the Europeans.
The people of Palestine rejected the offer to have their own homeland. They were used by the other Arab nations.
Learn by reading the history not propaganda.

All the propaganda comes from the side that invaded and stole land. There is always an attempt to justify theft and injustice. It just only works with dummies like you. The people of Palestine rejected being ethnically cleansed to make way for the Jews. When the ethnic cleansing began, Arab neighbors attempted to stop the Jews from ethnically cleansing the Christians and Muslims. They were unsuccessful, obviously.

Now facts, not the propaganda you believe in:

"On September 3, UNSCOP issued its report to the General Assembly declaring its majority recommendation that Palestine be partitioned into separate Jewish and Arab states. It noted that the population of Palestine at the end of 1946 was estimated to be almost 1,846,000, with 1,203,000 Arabs (65 percent) and 608,000 Jews (33 percent). Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase. It observed that there was “no clear territorial separation of Jews and Arabs by large contiguous areas”, and even in the Jaffa district, which included Tel Aviv, Arabs constituted a majority.[5] Land ownership statistics from 1945 showed that Arabs owned more land than Jews in every single district in Palestine. The district with the highest percentage of Jewish ownership was Jaffa, where 39 percent of the land was owned by Jews, compared to 47 percent owned by Arabs.[6] In the whole of Palestine at the time UNSCOP issued its report, Arabs owned 85 percent of the land,[7] while Jews owned less than 7 percent.[8]

Despite these facts, the UNSCOP proposal was that the Arab state be constituted from only 45.5 percent of the whole of Palestine, while the Jews would be awarded 55.5 percent of the total area for their state.[9] The UNSCOP report acknowledged that

With regard to the principle of self-determination, although international recognition was extended to this principle at the end of the First World War and it was adhered to with regard to the other Arab territories, at the time of the creation of the ‘A’ Mandates, it was not applied to Palestine, obviously because of the intention to make possible the creation of the Jewish National Home there. Actually, it may well be said that the Jewish National Home and the sui generis Mandate for Palestine run counter to that principle.[10]

In other words, the report explicitly recognized that the denial of Palestinian independence in order to pursue the goal of establishing a Jewish state constituted a rejection of the right of the Arab majority to self-determination. And yet, despite this recognition, UNSCOP had accepted this rejection of Arab rights as being within the bounds of a legitimate and reasonable framework for a solution.

The Myth of the U.N. Creation of Israel - Foreign Policy Journal

There was no people of Palestine.
They were people living in Palestine Territory (Musliums, Jews and Christians) controlled by the Ottoman Empire, they lost the War in WWI and the British took control of the land.

The Ottoman Land code of 1858 "brought about the appropriation by the influential and rich families of Beirut, Damascus, and to a lesser extent Jerusalem and Jaffa and other sub-district capitals, of vast tracts of land in Syria and Palestine and their registration in the name of these families in the land registers".Many of the fellahin did not understand the importance of the registers and therefore the wealthy families took advantage of this. Jewish buyers who were looking for large tracts of land found it favorable to purchase from the wealthy owners. As well many small farmers became in debt to rich families which lead to the transfer of land to the new owners and then eventually to the Jewish buyers.

In 1918, after the British conquest of Palestine, the military administration closed the Land Register and prohibited all sale of land. The Register was reopened in 1920, but to prevent speculation and insure a livelihood for the fellahin, an edict was issued forbidding the sale of more than 300 dunams of land or the sale of land valued at more than 3000 Palestine pounds without the approval of the High Commissioner.
From the 1880s to the 1930s, most Jewish land purchases were made in the coastal plain, the Jezreel Valley, the Jordan Valley and to a lesser extent the Galilee. This was due to a preference for land that was cheap and without tenants.There were two main reasons why these areas were sparsely populated. The first reason being when the Ottoman power in the rural areas began to diminish in the seventeenth century, many people moved to more centralized areas to secure protection against the lawless Bedouin tribes. The second reason for the sparsely populated areas of the coastal plains was the soil type. The soil, covered in a layer of sand, made it impossible to grow the staple crop of Palestine, corn] As a result this area remained uncultivated and under populated."The sparse Arab population in the areas where the Jews usually bought their land enabled the Jews to carry out their purchase without engendering a massive displacement and eviction of Arab tenants".
In the 1930s most land was bought from small landowners. Of the land that the Jews bought, "52.6% of the lands were bought from big non-Palestinian landowners, 24.6% from Palestinian-Arab landowners and only 9.4% from the Fellahin".
Jewish land purchase in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia