U.S. expected to sanction IDF unit for human rights violations in occupied West Bank

[ekrem]

Zionists did go-all-in with USA Washington swamp, bought every shady charachter.
USA is now in the stage where it realizes that support for Israel is costing it reputation and no country is giving a damn about US lectures on "human-rights" as thousands of women and children in Gaza are being killed.
No one gives a fuck about US lectures on freedom and free-press as Israel is killing hundreds of journalists in Gaza.
Those countries who had still had hopes in the USA even after the USA starved and killed millions of Muslim children beginning with Iraq santctions up until Afghan translators dropping off US cargo planes, have now fully bought in into the phrase "genocide Joe".

Going forward (in a time frame less than 15 years) these things will happen:

• USA will loose its sole Superpower status and financial/inflation crisis will hit Americans, even more than they've already been hit since Corona crisis.
• Jew control of USA will be questioned each passing year as the Chinese family puts more food on the table at the expense of American dinner tables

I stop here.
But, we all know what happened to Jews in Christian countries once heydays of prosperity are over.

 

[ESay]

No, the Palestinians have been telling the world for 70 years that they are not interested in a state just in the territories, but you are just not listening to them.

The worst thing is that your side doesn't come up with any viable solutions. What to do with Gaza and other Palestinian territories? Okay, you can just occupy them. What to do with a couple of million Palestinians living there, hating Israel and wanting it to be destroyed? Deport them all to nowhere? Not an option. Make 'bantustans' for them? Okay. And make out of Israel a 'besieged fortress' with constant conflicts with its neighbours, 'South African' realitions with most of the world, and 'right wing' government in charge? Okay.

 

[ekrem]

The Jew comedian in Kiew sending Orthodox Christians into the Russian meat grinder, being of the main protagonists in industrial decline in European Christian countries will also have his special place in history books.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The worst thing is that your side doesn't come up with any viable solutions. What to do with Gaza and other Palestinian territories? Okay, you can just occupy them. What to do with a couple of million Palestinians living there, hating Israel and wanting it to be destroyed? Deport them all to nowhere? Not an option. Make 'bantustans' for them? Okay. And make out of Israel a 'besieged fortress' with constant conflicts with its neighbours, 'South African' realitions with most of the world, and 'right wing' government in charge? Okay.

As long as the Palestinians remain committed to the destruction of Israel, there is nothing to do with them but maintain security control over them.

 

[ESay]

As long as the Palestinians remain committed to the destruction of Israel, there is nothing to do with them but maintain security control over them.

Only don't forget that you will be able to do so as long as the US supports you.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Only don't forget that you will be able to do so as long as the US supports you.

Israel has no choice but to continue to maintain security control over the Palestinians as long as they remain committed to the destruction of Israel whether the US supports it or not.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

MSN

.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken is expected to within days announce sanctions against the Israel Defense Forces "Netzah Yehuda" battalion for human rights violations in the occupied West Bank, three U.S. sources with knowledge of the issue told Axios.

Why it matters: It would be the first time the U.S. imposed sanctions on an Israeli military unit.

It just boggles the mind....I mean:

Crafty way for Democrats to support Israel while trying to hold onto the Michigan vote. Trump would have told Palestinians here to fuck off.

How in the world do you "sanction" an IDF military unit? That makes no sense whatsoever to anyone who knows what sanctions are!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Israel should be ready for independent Palestinian state. By being ready I mean giving them the Gaza Strip, the West Bank (maybe evacuating most of Israeli settlements there), and parts of Jerusalem.

Yeah, right! They gave back their settlements and green houses in Gaza. What happened to them? The Gazans destroyed them instead of using them to build an economy. What exactly do they produce in Gaza besides terrorists?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Too bad that 95% of the planet would say otherwise.

Really? Who is their leader? Where is their government? What is their economy based upon?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, they were told that for 70 years. Maybe if some Arab countries change the narratives, the people's mindset will be changing also.

Most Arab/Muslim states have accepted Israel's existence, but even they don't recognize the Palestinians who they see as a royal pain in their asses.

 

[toomuchtime_]

How in the world do you "sanction" an IDF military unit? That makes no sense whatsoever to anyone who knows what sanctions are!

It is a purely political gesture, if it is true at all, aimed at boosting Muslim support for Biden's reelection campaign. The sanctions would mean the unit cannot benefit from any US weapons, training, etc., but the truly bizarre thing about it is that the State Dept. review is a collection of accusations about bad conduct by some of the soldiers in the unit that have already been disciplined by the IDF that occurred a few years ago.

 

[ESay]

Israel has no choice but to continue to maintain security control over the Palestinians as long as they remain committed to the destruction of Israel whether the US supports it or not.

Depends on what you mean by security control here. If some agreement that will allow Israeli special forces to operate on the Palestinian territories, then why not? If military occupation, then I don't think it is a great idea.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Depends on what you mean by security control here. If some agreement that will allow Israeli special forces to operate on the Palestinian territories, then why not? If military occupation, then I don't think it is a great idea.

Since the Palestinians remain committed to the destruction of Israel, it is a necessary condition to preserve Israel's security. Once the major fighting is over, Israel will maintain the same kind of security control over Gaza it has over the West Bank.

 

[Shusha]

But what should I say? Before, you talked about a synagogue, then switched to 'the holiest place'. You know, if people base their demands on thousands years' old 'traditions' ignoring the present day's reality, then what can I say? Okay, try that. Good luck. But don't be surprised when other people aren't too eager in supporting you in this endeavor.

It doesn't matter what word I use, or what buildings are built there. Muslims don't believe in freedom of worship for anyone but themselves. Only their "thousand years' old traditions" have value. And the response to the very idea of sharing and equality is violence. It is the same discussion you are having with toomuchtime. All we can do is have security control because we do not share the same values.

 

[ESay]

It doesn't matter what word I use, or what buildings are built there. Muslims don't believe in freedom of worship for anyone but themselves. Only their "thousand years' old traditions" have value. And the response to the very idea of sharing and equality is violence. It is the same discussion you are having with toomuchtime. All we can do is have security control because we do not share the same values.

When you begin to worship with the Bible in a synagogue or at least in a Hasidic quarter and don't get attacked, you will be able to talk about freedom of worship.

 

[ESay]

Since the Palestinians remain committed to the destruction of Israel, it is a necessary condition to preserve Israel's security. Once the major fighting is over, Israel will maintain the same kind of security control over Gaza it has over the West Bank.

Okay, good luck with that.

 

[Shusha]

When you begin to worship with the Bible in a synagogue or at least in a Hasidic quarter and don't get attacked, you will be able to talk about freedom of worship.

You are creating a false analogy. Why can't Jews pray on Temple Mount? Not inside the mosque, just on the Temple Mount? Why couldn't there be a Temple or synagogue there as well as the mosque? (Putting Jewish religious prohibitions aside).

 

[ESay]

You are creating a false analogy. Why can't Jews pray on Temple Mount? Not inside the mosque, just on the Temple Mount? Why couldn't there be a Temple or synagogue there as well as the mosque? (Putting Jewish religious prohibitions aside).

Is the Temple Mount today not a combined territory of the Al Aqsa mosque and the Dome of the Rock?

 

[Shusha]

Is the Temple Mount today not a combined territory of the Al Aqsa mosque and the Dome of the Rock?

It is a rather large space.

 

[ESay]

It is a rather large space.

The overall area, including the mosques proper, is far less than a square kilometre. Not sure it falls in a category 'large'.