Yes, It Was The 'Affordable' Care Act That Increased Premiums

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    Because people with (too much) insurance don't give a shit what their health care costs.
     
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    Thank goodness she didn't have to get on a waiting list, like so many Canadians.
    She could have been bringing the boy in for his 6 month check up......instead of having him in the hospital.
     
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    Oh brother. The bullshit lies from the right. The lie that they are on waiting lists to get life saving procedures.

    You are why the rich keep putting one over on the American people. You are so willing to swallow the rich's bullshit it's sad.

    But you will argue every idea that might lower costs. Meanwhile, the GOP aren't doing shit to make healthcare affordable.

    Just the fact you right away came at me with that bullshit about waiting lists. Pathetic really. Lame. Tired old lies.
     
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    The lie that they are on waiting lists to get life saving procedures.

    They have less equipment. Older equipment. They have waiting lists. It's a fact.
     
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    I lived in Canada. Taxes are higher. Salaries are comparable. Healthcare is good and pretty efficient in the belt, but deteriorates exponentially the further rural you go.

    P.S. Don't ask for a napkin at a restaurant.
     
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    Same thing is happening in America

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    So do we. My mom had lymphoma and they scheduled her to get her chemo started in 3 months. Imagine living with cancer spreading in your body for 3 months because your hospital's schedule is full. And they say, "oh it'll be ok". Mother fuckers.

    You Americans are so fucking stupid I'm sorry but you have swallowed a load of bullshit from the Republicans about the rest of the world most of you have never even seen. Maybe that's why it's easy to lie to you and say the rest of the world sucks. I don't know how you do it. I know how Kim Jong is able to lie to his people but you Americans are free yet you are somehow in a bubble of ignorance.
     
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    So do we.

    And their waiting lists are longer and much more widespread.
     
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    You just keep repeating a lie bro

    5 Myths About Canadian Health Care

    The wait times that Canada might experience are not caused by its being a single-payer system.

    Our single-payer system, which is called Medicare (see above), manages not to have the “wait times” issue that Canada’s does. There must, therefore, be some other reason for the wait times. There is, of course.

    Myth #5: Canada rations health care; the United States doesn’t.

    This one’s a little bit tricky. The truth is, Canada may “ration” by making people wait for some things, but here in the United States we also “ration” — by cost.

    So it's pretty pathetic when all you can come back with is, "yes we have waits but theirs are longer", when you don't even know that for sure. Are you just talking out of your ass?

    Further, about a third of the Americans surveyed reported that, in the preceding year, they didn’t go to the doctor when sick, didn’t get recommended care when needed, didn’t fill a prescription or skipped doses of medications because of cost.

    That's 1 in 3. Pretty bad.

    Finally, about one in five of the Americans surveyed had struggled to pay or were unable to pay their medical bills in the preceding year. That was more than twice the percentage found in any of the other 10 countries.

    And remember: We’re spending way more on health care than any other country, and for all that money we’re getting at best middling results.

    So feel free to have a discussion about the relative merits of the U.S. and Canadian health care systems. Just stick to the facts.
     
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    In 1966, Canada implemented a single-payer health care system, which is also known as Medicare. Since then, as a country, Canadians have made a conscious decision to hold down costs. One of the ways they do that is by limiting supply, mostly for elective things, which can create wait times.

    Elective things like x-rays and MRIs.

    in the United States we also “ration” — by cost.

    Darn the US, keeping the people from getting free stuff.



    Starting at 10:09 is an interesting case.......
     

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