WW2 began 79 years ago, Poland first to fight the Nazis.

As for Schindler's List depicting Polish speaking guards in the Nazi camps, almost all guards were German, and most non-Germans weren't Poles, but rather Ukrainians, or Latvians.

You are misinformed. There were many Poles who helped the Nazi's in the Nazi death camps. Usually it was a futile effort to avoid death.

Sonderkommandos were prisoners who agreed to help the Germans for better treatment. They were reviled by the other prisoners as well, even though many of the Sonderkommandos were also killed. The entire panopoly of human endeavor played out in the prisons but in grotesque fashion.

https://www.quora.com/How-did-people-in-Nazi-concentration-camps-treat-each-other

Sonderkommandos were Jews who helped the Nazis.

Also Poles, as you know.

Wikipedia admits Sonderkommandos were usually Jews.

USUALLY! Were they Polish Jews or from some other country?
 
First European country to surrender. "Hey Adoph, how about building a couple of cocentration camps here"?

That's just sick. Anti-Semitism was rampant around the World. I'm not Jewish but I grieve for the persecution they have suffered over the centuries.
 
In light of Poland being the first to fight the Nazis, there's still persistent ploys to blame Poland for the Holocaust.

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak
01.09.2018 09:30
Observances commemorating the 79th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II were held in Poland at dawn on Saturday.
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World War II commemorations held on Westerplatte in the coastal city of Gdańsk. Photo: PAP/Marcin Gadomski

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki attended observances held on Westerplatte in Gdańsk on the Baltic coast, where on September 1, 1939 at 4:45 am the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein began shelling a Polish military depot in the first battle between Polish and German soldiers of WWII.

Morawiecki called Westerplatte a symbolic “patch of Poland,” where Polish soldiers fought to defend their country’s independence.

“From the very first days of World War II, Polish soldiers and society changed the fate of the world; they fought to protect the free world against the enemies of freedom, Poland and Europe,” Morawiecki said.

Sirens wailed and the Polish national anthem was played at a monument honouring those who defended the Polish coast.

The week-long defence by the Poles against overwhelmingly larger German forces became a symbol of the heroism of Polish soldiers.

Observances were also held in central city of Wieluń, the first Polish town to be bombed by the Germans at 4:40 am on 1 September 1939.

In a letter read out at the ceremony President Andrzej Duda said: “Bombing a sleeping city, which had no Polish military garrison and was of no strategic importance, was a crime.”

“The destruction of houses, churches, a Protestant church, synagogue, hospital were barbaric and a dramatic harbinger of the character of World War II, which was symbolised by a mass annihilation of entire communities.”

The Wieluń observances took place at a site where there was a hospital on the day the war broke out. The war’s first bombs fell on that building, killing 32 people, including 26 patients. In all, the Germans killed around 1,200 civilians in the city that day.

Duda took part in commemorations in the northern town of Tczew, where 16 people, chiefly rail workers, were killed on September 1, 1939.

Duda said this year’s ceremonies fell on the centenary of Poland’s independence, which Poland regained on November 11, 1918, the day World War I ended, after 123 years of partition by Russia, Austria and Prussia.

He said: “The dates 1 September and 17 September [marking the Soviet invasion from the east] are a bleak reminder in this year’s 100th anniversary of Poland’s independence as these dates remind [Poles] of the time they again lost their homeland and Poland was divided between its two major enemies

And yet today, you're conspiring with the Nazis.

How ironic.
 
In light of Poland being the first to fight the Nazis, there's still persistent ploys to blame Poland for the Holocaust.

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak
01.09.2018 09:30
Observances commemorating the 79th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II were held in Poland at dawn on Saturday.
6ecb3a80-891a-4117-909b-ff8b2b498cd2.file
World War II commemorations held on Westerplatte in the coastal city of Gdańsk. Photo: PAP/Marcin Gadomski

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki attended observances held on Westerplatte in Gdańsk on the Baltic coast, where on September 1, 1939 at 4:45 am the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein began shelling a Polish military depot in the first battle between Polish and German soldiers of WWII.

Morawiecki called Westerplatte a symbolic “patch of Poland,” where Polish soldiers fought to defend their country’s independence.

“From the very first days of World War II, Polish soldiers and society changed the fate of the world; they fought to protect the free world against the enemies of freedom, Poland and Europe,” Morawiecki said.

Sirens wailed and the Polish national anthem was played at a monument honouring those who defended the Polish coast.

The week-long defence by the Poles against overwhelmingly larger German forces became a symbol of the heroism of Polish soldiers.

Observances were also held in central city of Wieluń, the first Polish town to be bombed by the Germans at 4:40 am on 1 September 1939.

In a letter read out at the ceremony President Andrzej Duda said: “Bombing a sleeping city, which had no Polish military garrison and was of no strategic importance, was a crime.”

“The destruction of houses, churches, a Protestant church, synagogue, hospital were barbaric and a dramatic harbinger of the character of World War II, which was symbolised by a mass annihilation of entire communities.”

The Wieluń observances took place at a site where there was a hospital on the day the war broke out. The war’s first bombs fell on that building, killing 32 people, including 26 patients. In all, the Germans killed around 1,200 civilians in the city that day.

Duda took part in commemorations in the northern town of Tczew, where 16 people, chiefly rail workers, were killed on September 1, 1939.

Duda said this year’s ceremonies fell on the centenary of Poland’s independence, which Poland regained on November 11, 1918, the day World War I ended, after 123 years of partition by Russia, Austria and Prussia.

He said: “The dates 1 September and 17 September [marking the Soviet invasion from the east] are a bleak reminder in this year’s 100th anniversary of Poland’s independence as these dates remind [Poles] of the time they again lost their homeland and Poland was divided between its two major enemies

And yet today, you're conspiring with the Nazis.

How ironic.

Who's conspiring with the Nazis today?
 
600,000 Soviet soldiers died liberating, or occupying Poland?


You were born a foul and you die.
You are a PSHEK
Peshka fights only with the Jews and with monuments to Soviet soldiers who liberated Poland.
So, shut up, scum.

Soviets were hardly better for Poland than Nazis, although none the less it was slightly better, not because Communism is superior over Fascism, but because of Generalplan Ost.
 
600,000 Soviet soldiers died liberating, or occupying Poland?


You were born a foul and you die.
You are a PSHEK
Peshka fights only with the Jews and with monuments to Soviet soldiers who liberated Poland.
So, shut up, scum.

Soviets were hardly better for Poland than Nazis, although none the less it was slightly better, not because Communism is superior over Fascism, but because of Generalplan Ost.

Shut up, the PSHEK BIDLO

Soviets killed far more Russians, than Poles.

But, some Russians, mostly the Dupek support Soviets, none the less.

Soviets killed probably 300 thousand ethnic Poles in Katyn Massacre, the Polish Operation of the NKVD, the Holodomor, and forced deportations of Poles.

Meanwhile, Soviets killed about 10 - 15 million Russians in just the first 3 years, in the Russian Civil War + Volga Famine.
 
Poganye Poles know how to fight only the dead ..
These bastards destroy monuments on the territory of Poland

So, shut up, filthy scum about the Jews and how the Poles fought in World War II ..

Your role in history is a servant.
You will always be a servant!

Sure, like in the Battle of Komarow 1920, when 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviet forces, including the best Soviet division at the time, the Soviet 1st Cavalry Division.
 
Poganye Poles know how to fight only the dead ..
These bastards destroy monuments on the territory of Poland

So, shut up, filthy scum about the Jews and how the Poles fought in World War II ..

Your role in history is a servant.
You will always be a servant!

Sure, like in the Battle of Komarow 1920, when 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviet forces, including the best Soviet division at the time, the Soviet 1st Cavalry Division.

It is not true.
In fact, 100 Poles defeated 1,000,000,000 Russians.
 
The Poles were victims, Hungary was a victim, Slovokia was a victim, the Jews were victims and nobody did much until France became a victim of the Hun for the second time in a quarter of a century. Where the hell was the FDR administration while Europe was falling apart? The book "In the Garden of the Beasts" chronicles the U.S. ambassador to Berlin's account of the FDR administration's lack of interest in Hitler's rise to power in the 30's.
 
The Poles were victims, Hungary was a victim, Slovokia was a victim, the Jews were victims and nobody did much until France became a victim of the Hun for the second time in a quarter of a century. Where the hell was the FDR administration while Europe was falling apart? The book "In the Garden of the Beasts" chronicles the U.S. ambassador to Berlin's account of the FDR administration's lack of interest in Hitler's rise to power in the 30's.

FDR and his administration did not lack interest in Hitler's rise to power. The overwhelming opinion of the public was to let Europe take care of their own problems. The US felt strongly that we were protected by two vast oceans and we were safe. FDR knew we had to enter the war and began efforts to build up our military along with instituting the draft and the manufacturing of weapons. FDR then pushed through the Lend/Lease program pouring munitions, heavy trucks, tanks, airplanes, and ships into the war effort.

The citizens and government of Great Britain held a deep-seated dislike and anger toward the U.S. for not coming to the aid of the allies sooner.

At the same time, we were losing scores of ships loaded with supplies to the Nazi submarine wolfpacks.
 
In light of Poland being the first to fight the Nazis, there's still persistent ploys to blame Poland for the Holocaust.

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak
01.09.2018 09:30
Observances commemorating the 79th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II were held in Poland at dawn on Saturday.
6ecb3a80-891a-4117-909b-ff8b2b498cd2.file
World War II commemorations held on Westerplatte in the coastal city of Gdańsk. Photo: PAP/Marcin Gadomski

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki attended observances held on Westerplatte in Gdańsk on the Baltic coast, where on September 1, 1939 at 4:45 am the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein began shelling a Polish military depot in the first battle between Polish and German soldiers of WWII.

Morawiecki called Westerplatte a symbolic “patch of Poland,” where Polish soldiers fought to defend their country’s independence.

“From the very first days of World War II, Polish soldiers and society changed the fate of the world; they fought to protect the free world against the enemies of freedom, Poland and Europe,” Morawiecki said.

Sirens wailed and the Polish national anthem was played at a monument honouring those who defended the Polish coast.

The week-long defence by the Poles against overwhelmingly larger German forces became a symbol of the heroism of Polish soldiers.

Observances were also held in central city of Wieluń, the first Polish town to be bombed by the Germans at 4:40 am on 1 September 1939.

In a letter read out at the ceremony President Andrzej Duda said: “Bombing a sleeping city, which had no Polish military garrison and was of no strategic importance, was a crime.”

“The destruction of houses, churches, a Protestant church, synagogue, hospital were barbaric and a dramatic harbinger of the character of World War II, which was symbolised by a mass annihilation of entire communities.”

The Wieluń observances took place at a site where there was a hospital on the day the war broke out. The war’s first bombs fell on that building, killing 32 people, including 26 patients. In all, the Germans killed around 1,200 civilians in the city that day.

Duda took part in commemorations in the northern town of Tczew, where 16 people, chiefly rail workers, were killed on September 1, 1939.

Duda said this year’s ceremonies fell on the centenary of Poland’s independence, which Poland regained on November 11, 1918, the day World War I ended, after 123 years of partition by Russia, Austria and Prussia.

He said: “The dates 1 September and 17 September [marking the Soviet invasion from the east] are a bleak reminder in this year’s 100th anniversary of Poland’s independence as these dates remind [Poles] of the time they again lost their homeland and Poland was divided between its two major enemies
Lets blame the holocost on the germans where it belongs! Fuck all the other shit they are the ones who decided to do it! As far as who is most responsible for taking the germans down it took the whole fucking world to put them down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We all took tremenous casualties and flat out if we all did not attack them at once they would have rode over any one of us if it was just our country vs them! I have never in my life ran across one American who blames the holocost on poland. So get the fuck over it already!
 
Please explain why Poles helped German Nazis to carry out the Jewish Holocaust.

Opportunism, Antisemitism, Blackmail ... without the help of Polish people the Holocaust would had been impossible. How should the Nazis know in Polish areas who was a Jew and who not?

Please explain why Poles have supported the Roman Catholic Church, which collaborated with German Nazis

The Catholic Church in Germany never collaborated with the Nazi regime.

and even hid them after the war and helped them get away to places like Paraguay;

A myth too. As well Caritas and Red Cross made mistakes when they gave papers. That's all. The people in South Americs did by the way also help lots of Jews and other European refugees, Germans too. God bless them.

This is one of the reasons why I refuse to count myself as as an RC or follow this faith, even though I have ancestral roots in Russia and Poland.

 
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. 2 World War began when Poland attacked Czechoslovakia after the conclusion of the Munich collusion. ...

That's not the reason for world war 2. The history of Bohemia is very complex. A Germany without Bohemia was for lots of people - not only Germans - unthinkable. Bohemia was always one of the most important parts of the holy empire. But this is past. In world war 1 the united idiots of the world decided to produce this problem, which is meanwhile the independent state Czechia and which had also produced meanwhile the independent state Slovakia.

 
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First to fight? Poland was a freaking pushover and became an ally of the Nazis. Auschwitz was in Poland for God's sake.

Auschwitz-Birkenau is a German name and a German extermination camp in a titanic industrial structure of death, which we call today normally "the Holocaust".

Poland was by the way moved westward. So today a big part of Poland is where German territory was once - while Russia owns now territory where Poland once was. So it is not always possible to separate the words "german" and "polish". Unfortunatlely no one uses the German names of the German Cities any longer. That's a problem of the regulation of language, which polish politicians had produced on their own.

 
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Please explain why Poles helped German Nazis to carry out the Jewish Holocaust. Please explain why Poles have supported the Roman Catholic Church, which collaborated with German Nazis and even hid them after the war and helped them get away to places like Paraguay; This is one of the reasons why I refuse to count myself as as an RC or follow this faith, even though I have ancestral roots in Russia and Poland.

You're definitely a Jew, and a dumb one at that, if you think many Poles helped the German Nazis carry out the Holocaust.

Poland fought Nazis through out WW2 first as Poland, and then as Armia Krajowa, and Poland even saved the most Jews of any nation in Europe.

Exactly. The most heroes of Yad Vashem are Poles. Lots of Polish people saved Jews. But Poles helped Nazis also to carry out the Holocaust - both is true. Anti-Germanism and Antisemitism are by the way often combined under the Slaws in Poland and Russia, because Jews spoke the German language Yiddish.

 
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The Nazis and, eventually, many Germans themselves were atrocious to the Poles. This is why it's mystifying to me that you parrot some of the Nazi sentiments about certain religious people.

Don't do that. You know what that is. Just don't do it. It's so ugly.

Jews are responsible for most of the anti-Polish propaganda floating around, why should I like this tribe, exactly?

I always wondered myselve why Jews showed such a nearly unbelievable patience with Polish people for so long decades of history since the Holocaust. It's by the way interesting for me that you call Jews a[n evil German] tribe. You are on your own a good example what Jews are not able to tolerate, although it is not wrong what you say.

 
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In light of Poland being the first to fight the Nazis, there's still persistent ploys to blame Poland for the Holocaust.

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak

Poland marks 79th anniversary of WWII outbreak
01.09.2018 09:30
Observances commemorating the 79th anniversary of the outbreak of World War II were held in Poland at dawn on Saturday.
6ecb3a80-891a-4117-909b-ff8b2b498cd2.file
World War II commemorations held on Westerplatte in the coastal city of Gdańsk. Photo: PAP/Marcin Gadomski

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki attended observances held on Westerplatte in Gdańsk on the Baltic coast, where on September 1, 1939 at 4:45 am the German battleship Schleswig-Holstein began shelling a Polish military depot in the first battle between Polish and German soldiers of WWII.

Morawiecki called Westerplatte a symbolic “patch of Poland,” where Polish soldiers fought to defend their country’s independence.

“From the very first days of World War II, Polish soldiers and society changed the fate of the world; they fought to protect the free world against the enemies of freedom, Poland and Europe,” Morawiecki said.

Sirens wailed and the Polish national anthem was played at a monument honouring those who defended the Polish coast.

The week-long defence by the Poles against overwhelmingly larger German forces became a symbol of the heroism of Polish soldiers.

Observances were also held in central city of Wieluń, the first Polish town to be bombed by the Germans at 4:40 am on 1 September 1939.

In a letter read out at the ceremony President Andrzej Duda said: “Bombing a sleeping city, which had no Polish military garrison and was of no strategic importance, was a crime.”

“The destruction of houses, churches, a Protestant church, synagogue, hospital were barbaric and a dramatic harbinger of the character of World War II, which was symbolised by a mass annihilation of entire communities.”

The Wieluń observances took place at a site where there was a hospital on the day the war broke out. The war’s first bombs fell on that building, killing 32 people, including 26 patients. In all, the Germans killed around 1,200 civilians in the city that day.

Duda took part in commemorations in the northern town of Tczew, where 16 people, chiefly rail workers, were killed on September 1, 1939.

Duda said this year’s ceremonies fell on the centenary of Poland’s independence, which Poland regained on November 11, 1918, the day World War I ended, after 123 years of partition by Russia, Austria and Prussia.

He said: “The dates 1 September and 17 September [marking the Soviet invasion from the east] are a bleak reminder in this year’s 100th anniversary of Poland’s independence as these dates remind [Poles] of the time they again lost their homeland and Poland was divided between its two major enemies

Wasn't it the Germans who were the first to fight the Poles?
 
. 2 World War began when Poland attacked Czechoslovakia after the conclusion of the Munich collusion. ...

That's not the reason for world war

1. The name of the line is not about the causes of the war, but about the actual beginning of the war. Do you understand the difference?
2. The reasons for the war I wrote later, read the line..
. 3. What you wrote is not even a reason, and not an excuse for World War, but disagreements between countries when one people lives in different border countries. If there are no global reasons, they will not fight.

Global causes (simplified)
1. Private ownership of the means of production, which leads to inequality and production crisis, when the owner (after the 18th century, the capitalist) can not make a profit in his country, then he starts a war. This is proved by the French philosopher Jean-Jacques-Rousseau.
They divide the world ....

2. When the World is divided, the Empires have colonies. The struggle for the redivision of the World begins. This is proved by the Great German politician, warrior and chancellor Bismarck.

3. Nothing has changed. In the early 21st century, the same reasons, so the war will not disappear.
 

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