Worshipping The Evil Rich

[Big Fitz]

How many of the top 2% actually wind up PAYING the top rate?

Rush clarified this issue rather well. When you are rich and have the ability to keep money from the government on principle because you KNOW how badly you're being fucked over to support lazy ingrates, you do it when you can. You hire that accounting firm to keep your cash safe from assholes who have no idea what it is to do a real job, meet a payroll, mind investments, or even how to stay in a budget.

A 50k investment to save millions is always money well spent. And you know what? They deserve to protect what the thieves in government are trying to steal for 'the sake of the children'. Yeah well, maybe if they'd stop condescending to minorities and thinking they can't make it 'without them' and get real jobs themselves, their lot in life would improve. You know who's really evil here? Bureaucrats and do-gooders who think they have the right and responsibility to steal from others to accomplish goals they feel need to be accomplished. Put your own damn money in if you feel drawn to help the poor. Quit shoving the government's gun in the face of others do do what they don't want.

That is evil, and so are those who think that way.

Oh wow. Rush is now an expert on economics along with everything else under the sun. Good to know. He must have been taking lessons from Glenn Beck's personal Econ 101 classes.

Wow, you truely are a partisan turd.

You earned the right to be lolled because you have nothing worth a damn to say.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

This is what becomes of a man who steals and destroys with a suit on......

Ex-Countrywide CEO Settles With SEC For $67.5M : NPR

This is what becomes of a man who steals and destroys wearing blue jeans....

Death To Gang Members: The Feds' New Tactic : NPR

We have a class war going on in this country. Wake The Fuck Up, people. The rich are NOT your friends.

How many jobs have you gotten from a poor man?


And why do you hate rich people?

Yep, that's Lonestar logic for ya! More code words kept alive by the rabid righties.

Code words? I asked two simple questions. There are NO code words. Perhaps your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

 

[Meister]

How many jobs have you gotten from a poor man?


And why do you hate rich people?

Yep, that's Lonestar logic for ya! More code words kept alive by the rabid righties.

Code words? I asked two simple questions. There are NO code words. Perhaps your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

Oh don't you get it? Your a racist....by your own admission with the use of "code words".

 

[Meister]

One thing I like about America is that there is more respect and less resentment towards thw rich than in most other places.

A saying I once heard was that in England, when the boss drove away in his expensive new car, the workers wanted to place a bomb under the car. In America, the workers wanted to be the boss in the car.

Is that anything like what Lee Trevino said "Your a Mexican until you become a millionaire, after that your a Spaniard."?

 

[rightwinger]

So you're saying it's fair to change the prices of a product (in this case, government) because of who someone is?

Where's the equality under the law?

Not to mention the poor in America are rich compared to most of the rest of the world. They would be middle to upper class in 70% of the other nations out there.

You already get a progressive amount of money just by using a percentage of income. If you made it a flat rate of say 13% (like Russia) without exemptions, you'd quickly see a massive increase in tax revenues because the rich won't fight so hard to keep from being robbed and hiring accountants for 30k a year to save millions. they won't lock up their money overseas to prevent having to pay taxes on it when it comes back to the country.

Your greed and avarice prevents this nation from improving. By demanding more from those you deem capable of "affording it" can also on principle, remove it from your reach.

The dangers of leftist greed, right there. All hate and envy, very little smarts because they are fucking clueless on economics.

LOL

So the right wing considers the 50% of Americans who only have 2.5% of the wealth to be greedy?

Maybe you would be happier in Russia where people are not so "greedy"

Oh what a fail at trying to falsely define the discussion.

What's pathetic is that the Russians figured out equitable taxation before we did thanks to the fuckall libs who are obscessed with what other people make and scheme their entire lives to steal it instead of trying to enrich themselves through work.

The lower 50% have no right to the money of the top 10%. when will you realize that? Probably not until you're one of the 10% which you hope to steal from someone else?

I never thought I would live to see the day...

A Conservative holding up the Russians as an example we should strive for.

 

[rightwinger]

This is what becomes of a man who steals and destroys with a suit on......

Ex-Countrywide CEO Settles With SEC For $67.5M : NPR

This is what becomes of a man who steals and destroys wearing blue jeans....

Death To Gang Members: The Feds' New Tactic : NPR

We have a class war going on in this country. Wake The Fuck Up, people. The rich are NOT your friends.

How many jobs have you gotten from a poor man?


And why do you hate rich people?

Yep, that's Lonestar logic for ya! More code words kept alive by the rabid righties.

The rich don't "give" you jobs.

You provide labor for which they make a hefty profit. If they stop making a profit off of your labor, they fire you

There is a delicate balance between the wage that is paid (does it provide enough to live on and maintain some quality of life?) and the amount of profit margin off of the employee.

 

[Jeremy]

How many jobs have you gotten from a poor man?


And why do you hate rich people?

Yep, that's Lonestar logic for ya! More code words kept alive by the rabid righties.

The rich don't "give" you jobs.

You provide labor for which they make a hefty profit. If they stop making a profit off of your labor, they fire you

There is a delicate balance between the wage that is paid (does it provide enough to live on and maintain some quality of life?) and the amount of profit margin off of the employee.

That is a very .. uh .. interesting way at looking at it. Disingenuous, but interesting.

Companies and corperations "give" jobs to someone everytime they say "You're hired".

These jobs are "given" when warrented by demand.

Demand is generated by a successfull business model, created by the evil rich people at the top of the ladder, and overall economic conditions that can be effected by government policy, or lack there of.

Saying that employment is solely profit based is simplistic and actually conterintuitive to the "evil rich people" argument. If one believes that profit is the only motivator for employment, than they should encourage profit and not demonize it.

 

[rightwinger]

Yep, that's Lonestar logic for ya! More code words kept alive by the rabid righties.

The rich don't "give" you jobs.

You provide labor for which they make a hefty profit. If they stop making a profit off of your labor, they fire you

There is a delicate balance between the wage that is paid (does it provide enough to live on and maintain some quality of life?) and the amount of profit margin off of the employee.

That is a very .. uh .. interesting way at looking at it. Disingenuous, but interesting.

Companies and corperations "give" jobs to someone everytime they say "You're hired".

These jobs are "given" when warrented by demand.

Demand is generated by a successfull business model, created by the evil rich people at the top of the ladder, and overall economic conditions that can be effected by government policy, or lack there of.

Saying that employment is solely profit based is simplistic and actually conterintuitive to the "evil rich people" argument. If one believes that profit is the only motivator for employment, than they should encourage profit and not demonize it.

No...they are not given any more than an employee "gives" his labor

It is an agreement between the employee and the employer. An employee provides a service and the employer makes a profit off of that service. You cannot claim there would not be jobs without rich people without acknowledging there would not be rich people without the labor of workers

 

[Jeremy]

The rich don't "give" you jobs.

You provide labor for which they make a hefty profit. If they stop making a profit off of your labor, they fire you

There is a delicate balance between the wage that is paid (does it provide enough to live on and maintain some quality of life?) and the amount of profit margin off of the employee.

That is a very .. uh .. interesting way at looking at it. Disingenuous, but interesting.

Companies and corperations "give" jobs to someone everytime they say "You're hired".

These jobs are "given" when warrented by demand.

Demand is generated by a successfull business model, created by the evil rich people at the top of the ladder, and overall economic conditions that can be effected by government policy, or lack there of.

Saying that employment is solely profit based is simplistic and actually conterintuitive to the "evil rich people" argument. If one believes that profit is the only motivator for employment, than they should encourage profit and not demonize it.

No...they are not given any more than an employee "gives" his labor

It is an agreement between the employee and the employer. An employee provides a service and the employer makes a profit off of that service. You cannot claim there would not be jobs without rich people without acknowledging there would not be rich people without the labor of workers

Unless the employee is a union member the "agreement" is almost completely one sided. "This is the job, these are the 'terms'. Yeah or nea?" If the prospect says nea to the terms, the company moves on until they find someone willing to accept their terms. I would hardly call employment a two way agreement between employer and employee. Especially sence most jobs in this country are considered "at will" employment.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

How many jobs have you gotten from a poor man?


And why do you hate rich people?

Yep, that's Lonestar logic for ya! More code words kept alive by the rabid righties.

The rich don't "give" you jobs.

You provide labor for which they make a hefty profit. If they stop making a profit off of your labor, they fire you

There is a delicate balance between the wage that is paid (does it provide enough to live on and maintain some quality of life?) and the amount of profit margin off of the employee.

No need to keep displaying your utter stupidity. We figured your dumbass out a long time ago.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Yep, that's Lonestar logic for ya! More code words kept alive by the rabid righties.

Code words? I asked two simple questions. There are NO code words. Perhaps your tinfoil hat is on too tight.

Oh don't you get it? Your a racist....by your own admission with the use of "code words".

Your use of "code words" is an admission of your ignorance and your blatant bigotry.

 

[eagleseven]

We have a class war going on in this country. Wake The Fuck Up, people. The rich are NOT your friends.

Rich people want to defraud me, while poor people want to mug me.

Maybe it's America that is fucked up?

 

[uscitizen]

Throughout history a notable portion of the population worships the rich and powerful.

 

[eagleseven]

Throughout history a notable portion of the population worships the rich and powerful.

And, occasionally, a notable portion of the population attacks the rich.

Interestingly, almost every "proletariat revolution" ends in dictatorship and global conflict.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

We have a class war going on in this country. Wake The Fuck Up, people. The rich are NOT your friends.

Rich people want to defraud me, while poor people want to mug me.

Maybe it's America that is fucked up?

Your life must suck.

 

[eagleseven]

We have a class war going on in this country. Wake The Fuck Up, people. The rich are NOT your friends.

Rich people want to defraud me, while poor people want to mug me.

Maybe it's America that is fucked up?

Your life must suck.

I live in Cleveland, where every public official is under investigation by the FBI, and citizens live in their basements to avoid stray bullets at night.

 

[uscitizen]

Cleveland was known as the armpit of Ohio 30 years ago when I lived in Coloumbus, Worthington actually.

So things have not gotten any better since then?

 

[MaggieMae]

When the possessions of another become a stumbling block for you, it's envy and it's a problem. It will inspire you to do evil things or support them being done.

I just did a quick search for "wealth envy" and surprise surprise, ran into several right wing articles on the subject. I was curious where you guys are getting that strange presumption. Now I know.

WEALTH ENVY ... - Nealz Nuze on boortz.com

Does America Have a Case of Wealth Envy? - The Wealth Report - WSJ

THE FREEDOM POST: THE CLASS ENVY CZAR, BARACK OBAMA

Rasmussen Healthcare Poll Reflects Wealth Envy Virginia's 5th District

JasonPye.com: Wealth Envy in America

 

[MaggieMae]

So you're saying it's fair to change the prices of a product (in this case, government) because of who someone is?

Where's the equality under the law?

Not to mention the poor in America are rich compared to most of the rest of the world. They would be middle to upper class in 70% of the other nations out there.

You already get a progressive amount of money just by using a percentage of income. If you made it a flat rate of say 13% (like Russia) without exemptions, you'd quickly see a massive increase in tax revenues because the rich won't fight so hard to keep from being robbed and hiring accountants for 30k a year to save millions. they won't lock up their money overseas to prevent having to pay taxes on it when it comes back to the country.

Your greed and avarice prevents this nation from improving. By demanding more from those you deem capable of "affording it" can also on principle, remove it from your reach.

The dangers of leftist greed, right there. All hate and envy, very little smarts because they are fucking clueless on economics.

LOL

So the right wing considers the 50% of Americans who only have 2.5% of the wealth to be greedy?

Maybe you would be happier in Russia where people are not so "greedy"

Oh what a fail at trying to falsely define the discussion.

What's pathetic is that the Russians figured out equitable taxation before we did thanks to the fuckall libs who are obscessed with what other people make and scheme their entire lives to steal it instead of trying to enrich themselves through work.

The lower 50% have no right to the money of the top 10%. when will you realize that? Probably not until you're one of the 10% which you hope to steal from someone else?

They already have. That's the whole point! How's your 401k doing these days? Is it slowly getting replenished after the historic wipeout of 2009?

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Rich people want to defraud me, while poor people want to mug me.

Maybe it's America that is fucked up?

Your life must suck.

I live in Cleveland, where every public official is under investigation by the FBI, and citizens live in their basements to avoid stray bullets at night.

Your best bet is to vote for John Kasich.