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There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Good questions - however answers and changes in attitude need to flow from both sides.
Would you give up incitement and hate against Palestinians and accept their right to a state?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in two independent states?
Are you willing to accept a state that controls it's own borders, treaties, airspace, resources, elections and coastline?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being Muslim to live within a Jewish state?
Would you allow other Muslims to live in a Jewish State if they became Israeli's?
Could you live in peace with a Palestinian state?
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.
That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Good questions - however answers and changes in attitude need to flow from both sides.
Would you give up incitement and hate against Palestinians and accept their right to a state?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in two independent states?
Are you willing to accept a state that controls it's own borders, treaties, airspace, resources, elections and coastline?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being Muslim to live within a Jewish state?
Would you allow other Muslims to live in a Jewish State if they became Israeli's?
Could you live in peace with a Palestinian state?
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.
The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state.""1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."Why don't you just to condense it to:That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?
"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.
The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.
The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.
I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...
The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state.""1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."Why don't you just to condense it to:That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?
"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.
They are not planning on surrendering.
Interesting that the Palestinians are not talking about creating a state.The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state.""1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."Why don't you just to condense it to:That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?
"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.
They are not planning on surrendering.
First of all, if the Palestinians want to destroy Israel and supplant it with Palestine, or if they accept one on the West Bank, that is achieving a state either way. This is something for the Palestinians to decide themselves. If they don't want to live out their lives in non-productive refugee camps for an empty principal, that is their peragotive, and theirs alone. Like I heard someone say once, "Many Americans are either more Palestinian than Palestinians themselves, or more Israeli than Israelis themselves". The people of the region are the ones who have to live with the consequences of their decisions and actions.
The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state.""1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."Why don't you just to condense it to:That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?
"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.
They are not planning on surrendering.
First of all, if the Palestinians want to destroy Israel and supplant it with Palestine, or if they accept one on the West Bank, that is achieving a state either way. This is something for the Palestinians to decide themselves. If they don't want to live out their lives in non-productive refugee camps for an empty principal, that is their peragotive, and theirs alone. Like I heard someone say once, "Many Americans are either more Palestinian than Palestinians themselves, or more Israeli than Israelis themselves". The people of the region are the ones who have to live with the consequences of their decisions and actions.
So they don't want a state, because it considered "surrendering " - according to you?The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state.""1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."Why don't you just to condense it to:That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?
"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.
They are not planning on surrendering.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.
The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.
I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...
So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.
The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.
I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...
So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?
That's what happens when you attack and try to expel people who's will to live is stronger than yours. You reap what you sow.
How is declaring independence after following the step prepatory to self determination, based on U.N resolution 181 considered 'colonizing'In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.
The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.
I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...
So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?
That's what happens when you attack and try to expel people who's will to live is stronger than yours. You reap what you sow.
The Europeans colonized and expelled the native Christians and Muslims. Is there a case in history where the colonizer was not resisted, however strong the colonizer was? As long as the Israelis are prevented from eliminating the non-Jewish population from the area under their control, the Palestinians have hope.
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels
Yeah, whatever.So they don't want a state, because it considered "surrendering " - according to you?The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state.""1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."Why don't you just to condense it to:That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.
Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?
Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?
"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.
They are not planning on surrendering.
Monkey motions.How is declaring independence after following the step prepatory to self determination, based on U.N resolution 181 considered 'colonizing'The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.
I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...
So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?
That's what happens when you attack and try to expel people who's will to live is stronger than yours. You reap what you sow.
The Europeans colonized and expelled the native Christians and Muslims. Is there a case in history where the colonizer was not resisted, however strong the colonizer was? As long as the Israelis are prevented from eliminating the non-Jewish population from the area under their control, the Palestinians have hope.
In fact, the Palestinians declared independence the same way:
"This Palestinian Declaration of Independence explicitly accepted the UN General Assembly’s Partition Resolution 181(II) of 1947............... Today, the acceptance of the Partition Resolution in their actual Declaration of Independence"
Palestine Independence Day 24 Years Ago November 15 1988 Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels
Islamocatholic? Now that's a new one...
There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.
*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve
Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?
Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels
Islamocatholic? Now that's a new one...
How is declaring independence after following the step prepatory to self determination, based on U.N resolution 181 considered 'colonizing'The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.
I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...
So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?
That's what happens when you attack and try to expel people who's will to live is stronger than yours. You reap what you sow.
The Europeans colonized and expelled the native Christians and Muslims. Is there a case in history where the colonizer was not resisted, however strong the colonizer was? As long as the Israelis are prevented from eliminating the non-Jewish population from the area under their control, the Palestinians have hope.
In fact, the Palestinians declared independence the same way:
"This Palestinian Declaration of Independence explicitly accepted the UN General Assembly’s Partition Resolution 181(II) of 1947............... Today, the acceptance of the Partition Resolution in their actual Declaration of Independence"
Palestine Independence Day 24 Years Ago November 15 1988 Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
