Work towards a Better Future

[montelatici]

I take it the IslamoCatholic handle was introduced by "an ignored member" as far as I'm concerned. LOL

 

[toastman]

I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...

So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?

That's what happens when you attack and try to expel people who's will to live is stronger than yours. You reap what you sow.

The Europeans colonized and expelled the native Christians and Muslims. Is there a case in history where the colonizer was not resisted, however strong the colonizer was? As long as the Israelis are prevented from eliminating the non-Jewish population from the area under their control, the Palestinians have hope.

How is declaring independence after following the step prepatory to self determination, based on U.N resolution 181 considered 'colonizing'

In fact, the Palestinians declared independence the same way:

"This Palestinian Declaration of Independence explicitly accepted the UN General Assembly’s Partition Resolution 181(II) of 1947............... Today, the acceptance of the Partition Resolution in their actual Declaration of Independence"

Palestine Independence Day 24 Years Ago November 15 1988 Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Monkey motions.

Where is this so called independent state.

Playing stupid again?

 

[Phoenall]

There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.

*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve

Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?

In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.

The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.

The arab muslims have the stated intent of wiping out all the Jews and destroying Israel.

Which is the greater evil ?

And you forget that the sovereign land owners gave the land to the Jews, and it was the arab muslims that refused to stay and be part of Israel.

 

[Phoenall]

That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.

Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?

Why don't you just to condense it to:

Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?

"1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."

"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.

The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state."

They are not planning on surrendering.

That's right they are planning on destroying Israel and wiping out the Jews so they can then invite Iran/ISIS to take control.

 

[Phoenall]

*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve

Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?

In 1900, the population in 'Palestine' was about 600 000. It wasn't completely empty, but 600 000 people in just under 30 000 km squared of land is not very much.
Specially considering they were scattered all over.
No one claimed that it was completely empty, but there certainly were many parts of the land that were barren wastelands. But I don't expect you to accept this, since it is the truth, which contradicts your agenda.

The Europeans didn't settle in the "barren wastelands" most settled in the cities Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa etc. But it does not matter where they settled. The Europeans had the stated intention of colonizing Palestine, evicting the non-Jews and creating their own state. The people of Palestine had every right to resist European colonization and the fact that Britain facilitated the colonization was immoral even though colonization did not become a crime until 1960 with UN Resolution 1514 (XV) of 14 December 1960.

I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...

So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?

The right of international law and sovereignty over the land.

 

[Phoenall]

Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?

Why don't you just to condense it to:

Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?

"1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."

"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.

The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state."

They are not planning on surrendering.

First of all, if the Palestinians want to destroy Israel and supplant it with Palestine, or if they accept one on the West Bank, that is achieving a state either way. This is something for the Palestinians to decide themselves. If they don't want to live out their lives in non-productive refugee camps for an empty principal, that is their peragotive, and theirs alone. Like I heard someone say once, "Many Americans are either more Palestinian than Palestinians themselves, or more Israeli than Israelis themselves". The people of the region are the ones who have to live with the consequences of their decisions and actions.

Interesting that the Palestinians are not talking about creating a state.

Because they cant afford to do so, and so they beg from the rest of the world to bail them out.

 

[Phoenall]

Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?

Why don't you just to condense it to:

Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?

"1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."

"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.

The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state."

They are not planning on surrendering.

First of all, if the Palestinians want to destroy Israel and supplant it with Palestine, or if they accept one on the West Bank, that is achieving a state either way. This is something for the Palestinians to decide themselves. If they don't want to live out their lives in non-productive refugee camps for an empty principal, that is their peragotive, and theirs alone. Like I heard someone say once, "Many Americans are either more Palestinian than Palestinians themselves, or more Israeli than Israelis themselves". The people of the region are the ones who have to live with the consequences of their decisions and actions.

The Palestinians have been denied a sovereign state. Before Netanyahu finally admitted that there would be no Palestinian state under his watch, the Israelis had offered a territory crisscrossed with Jew only roads and dotted with Crusader castle like settlements and the permanent presence of the IDF on the territory. The Israeli offer was designed to be so onerous that the Palestinians could not accept the Bantustan status it offered. The two-state solution, if there was ever a possibility, is long gone. Today, the only solutions are the forced transfer out of Palestine of the non-Jews, an Apartheid state, or a secular democratic state with equal rights for all confessions.

So what is it that the UN and the world recognises freddy boy. And how about a LINK detailing just how they have been refused a sovereign state ?

 

[Phoenall]

There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.

*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve

Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?

Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels

Islamocatholic? Now that's a new one...

Look at the history of WW2 and see who Hitler was in bed with. Then look at the Popes dealing with the Nazi's

 

[Phoenall]

I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...

So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?

That's what happens when you attack and try to expel people who's will to live is stronger than yours. You reap what you sow.

The Europeans colonized and expelled the native Christians and Muslims. Is there a case in history where the colonizer was not resisted, however strong the colonizer was? As long as the Israelis are prevented from eliminating the non-Jewish population from the area under their control, the Palestinians have hope.

How is declaring independence after following the step prepatory to self determination, based on U.N resolution 181 considered 'colonizing'

In fact, the Palestinians declared independence the same way:

"This Palestinian Declaration of Independence explicitly accepted the UN General Assembly’s Partition Resolution 181(II) of 1947............... Today, the acceptance of the Partition Resolution in their actual Declaration of Independence"

Palestine Independence Day 24 Years Ago November 15 1988 Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Monkey motions.

Where is this so called independent state.

Right where the Palestinians left it after realising that self determination also means self sufficiency and self control. They cant afford to give up their hand outs and mooched weapons so blame Israel for their failure. Show where Israel has stopped them from declaring self determination and standing on their own feet ?

 

[Phoenall]

There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.

*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve

Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?

Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels

Islamocatholic? Now that's a new one...

There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.

*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve

Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?

Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels

Islamocatholic? Now that's a new one...

I never said that some Jews didn't settle in populated cities. But 'Palestine' as a whole was quite empty. I'm talking more about the desert like the Negev, Beer Sheba, etc...

So what? What right did Europeans have to colonize the place and eventually evict the majority of people that people that were living there from more than 50% of the territory?

That's what happens when you attack and try to expel people who's will to live is stronger than yours. You reap what you sow.

The Europeans colonized and expelled the native Christians and Muslims. Is there a case in history where the colonizer was not resisted, however strong the colonizer was? As long as the Israelis are prevented from eliminating the non-Jewish population from the area under their control, the Palestinians have hope.

How is declaring independence after following the step prepatory to self determination, based on U.N resolution 181 considered 'colonizing'

In fact, the Palestinians declared independence the same way:

"This Palestinian Declaration of Independence explicitly accepted the UN General Assembly’s Partition Resolution 181(II) of 1947............... Today, the acceptance of the Partition Resolution in their actual Declaration of Independence"

Palestine Independence Day 24 Years Ago November 15 1988 Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

The European Jewish (Zionist) colonization that started in the late 1800s as confirmed by the Zionists themselves.

I am not sure what it has to do with Resolution 181.

Then you shouldn't be posting on this forum should you

 

[Daniyel]

Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?

Why don't you just to condense it to:

Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?

"1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."

"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.

The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state."

They are not planning on surrendering.

So they don't want a state, because it considered "surrendering " - according to you?

Yeah, whatever.

All I know is that nobody is saying anything about creating a state.

I See, So according to you the Palestinian cause is simply killing and expelling Zionists.
Quite a little warmonger you are..I got no business with primitives like you, welcome to my ignore list club.

 

[P F Tinmore]

That's a very good direction, a constructive one, but the core issue starts with three main factors that condemns any progress.
List by the influence;
1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines.
2.Will - The Palestinians and Israelis (mostly the Palestinians by their leadership) have no will to conduct any progress while the common people are forced to suffer the tyranny.
3.Changing Atmosphere - Every few hours something new happens, all driven by the others, reaching a progress must be an absolute agreement that can only be signed mutually in a very specific time frame.

Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?

Why don't you just to condense it to:

Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?

"1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."

"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.

The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state."

They are not planning on surrendering.

That's right they are planning on destroying Israel and wiping out the Jews so they can then invite Iran/ISIS to take control.

Oh, jeese!

No sense in even asking for a link to that.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Why don't you just to condense it to:

Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?

"1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."

"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.

The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state."

They are not planning on surrendering.

So they don't want a state, because it considered "surrendering " - according to you?

Yeah, whatever.

All I know is that nobody is saying anything about creating a state.

I See, So according to you the Palestinian cause is simply killing and expelling Zionists.
Quite a little warmonger you are..I got no business with primitives like you, welcome to my ignore list club.

Where did I ever mention war?

 

[Phoenall]

Perhaps a vote.
Do you want a peace with the Israeli state?
Would you give up incitement and hate against Israel and accept it's right to exist?
Are you willing to accept compromised agreement through negotiations that would result in a Palestinians state?
Would you accept the the PA/Hamas disarming and leave only police as the law enforcement authorities?
Would you attempt to prevent or turn in potential terrorists to maintain a peace rather than force Israeli to retaliate for attacks?
To speed up rebuilding, modernization and repairs of infrastructure, would you be willing to allow Israelis to safely work with palestinians in G and the WB?
Would you allow those of mixed marriage, one being jewish to live within a palestinian state?
Would you allow other jews to live in a palestinian state if they became palestinians?
Would you allow jewish companies to operate within a palestinian state that would create jobs for palestinians?
Could you live in peace with the jewish state of Israel?

Why don't you just to condense it to:

Should the Palestinians surrender to Israel's colonialism?

"1.Incitement - Starting from side-interests, media control over populations, disinformation, and technically all third parties that are not directly involved but determine some sort of ideological hard lines."

"Surrender"?
It could only be a victory for once in the Palestinian campaign of achieving their state, something they lost time and again - The problem begins when you (and your kind, no offense) claiming to be Pro-Palestinians while in fact you are simply Anti-Israel, its not that you care about Palestinians in particular, you just hate Israel - So every time there is a chance of some progress between Palestinians and Israelis, you (and your kind, no offense) incite them into hatred instead of addressing the real issues, for instance - a government that kidnap three teens and murders them in order to spark out a war.
You are one of the main problems, shame on you.

The Palestinians are not talking about achieving "a state."

They are not planning on surrendering.

That's right they are planning on destroying Israel and wiping out the Jews so they can then invite Iran/ISIS to take control.

Oh, jeese!

No sense in even asking for a link to that.

Read their charter

 

[Coyote]

There will never be a peaceful resolution because the Jews believe the Zionist myth which says that somehow it was manifest destiny that allowed the Europeans to colonize Palestine. Much like the colonizing Europeans up to the late 20th century, they believe that the indigenous people have no right to the land they once owned and inhabited. Unfortunately, this results in the Jews negotiating from a false premise, which makes it impossible to arrive at a just compromise acceptable to the non-Jews.

*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve

Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?

Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels

Islamocatholic? Now that's a new one...

Look at the history of WW2 and see who Hitler was in bed with. Then look at the Popes dealing with the Nazi's

One Mufti?

 

[Phoenall]

*Our* ethos is a myth? LOL. Some nerve

Of course it's a myth. 99% of Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the arrival of the European colonists. It wasn't empty as the Zionist myth would have others believe. Until the Israelis admit that they took the land from the indigenous people, how can there be a basis for negotiation?

Islamocatholic Nazi propaganda and Blood Libels

Islamocatholic? Now that's a new one...

Look at the history of WW2 and see who Hitler was in bed with. Then look at the Popes dealing with the Nazi's

One Mufti?

And the Vatican which supported the Nazi ideal of the final solution. You have seen the picture of the pope giving the roman salute to the Furher