Words are cheap, Jane Fonda

[Douger]

Vietnam.Lost a brother and a cousin there. The biggest clusterfuck the empire started(thus far....we'll see how the current movie_s play's out) and , as usual, didn't finish the job.There is no profit in winning a war. The longer it goes on the more profit your masters make.Your money, of course.
Jane is an idiot.Her father was an idiot.Hollywierd is the breeding ground of flakes who are worshiped by fools.
Full of millionaires, proving murkas ignorance.

 

[Caroljo]

That bitch can rot in hell and I hope today's youth NEVER forget Hanoi Jane. Fuck her and her whining. Good for QVC!

Get a life, Grace. Sheesh. I am a veteran, a lifetime member of the DAV. If I can let it go, I really don't want to hear it from you.

YOU may be able to let it go and ignore it...MANY other Viet Name vets cannot and will not because she is a traitor! I can't believe you can just forget what she did....

 

[California Girl]

That bitch can rot in hell and I hope today's youth NEVER forget Hanoi Jane. Fuck her and her whining. Good for QVC!

Get a life, Grace. Sheesh. I am a veteran, a lifetime member of the DAV. If I can let it go, I really don't want to hear it from you.

Then don't listen. But Grace is at liberty to say whatever she wants. That is why you served, isn't it? To defend our freedoms?

Idiot.

 

[midcan5]

First amendment 'Freedom' got lost somewhere in Vietnam, anyone looking for it? I hear about it all the time but rarely see it in action.

 

[José]

I shake my head in disbelief when I read threads like this.

The real question people should be asking is whether the vietnamese people will someday forgive France and America for turning their country into a pile of rubble and killing 1 million vietnamese and here we have a bunch of mentally retarded super patriotic american clowns crucifying a woman that at least tried to do something to stop the massacre.

Their sick notion of nationalism and national loyalty is more important than the lives of 1 million vietnamese or the moral depravation of destroying a country that never did anything to America.

I have to pinch myself to believe this bunch of morally depraved individuals participating in this discussion are for real. tsk, tsk, tsk...

You all make me

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jane Fonda writes that a planned Saturday appearance on QVC was canceled by the shopping network after viewers complained, citing Fonda's political statements during the Vietnam War. Fonda was scheduled to promote her aging-with-spirit book "Prime Time: Making the Most of Your Life," due out Aug. 9.

On her website, Fonda writes:

The network said they got a lot of calls yesterday criticizing me for my opposition to the Vietnam War and threatening to boycott the show if I was allowed to appear. I am, to say the least, deeply disappointed that QVC caved to this kind of insane pressure by some well funded and organized political extremist groups...Most people don’t buy into the far right lies.

Jane Fonda's QVC appearance pulled over Vietnam, she says - latimes.com

 

[Sunni Man]

First of all let me qualify by saying that I am a Vietnam vet.

Secondly, history has proven Jane Fonda to be correct in her assessment of the United States involvement of the war.

Last, we need more patriotic people like her to stand up and fight against government injustice and abuse.

 

[konradv]

Someone should tell Jane Fonda that words are cheap. If she wants not to be recorded in US History as a traitor all she has to do is get in her time machine and go back to 1960s and 70s and not make propaganda for the enemy.

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http://news.yahoo.com/jane-fonda-jabs-q ... 47808.html

..LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A new controversy over Oscar winner Jane Fonda's Vietnam War activism caused the actress to come out swinging against home shopping TV network QVC on Saturday, over what she described as its caving in to "extremist" pressure to cancel her appearance.

In a blog posting on showbusiness website TheWrap.com, Fonda wrote that she was scheduled to appear on QVC on Saturday to introduce her book "Prime Time" about aging and life cycles.

But the network, Fonda wrote, reported receiving a flood of angry calls regarding her anti-war activism of the 1960s and 1970s, and it decided to cancel Fonda's appearance.

Four decades ago, the American actress angered Vietnam War supporters who gave her the nickname "Hanoi Jane" for her 1972 visit to the capital of North Vietnam at the height of the conflict. At the time, she posed for photos showing her sitting atop a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun, and she remains an object of derision by some U.S. veterans and others.

Fonda, 73, has in the past expressed regret about those images, and in her post at The Wrap she took aim at QVC and her critics.

"I am, to say the least, deeply disappointed that QVC caved to this kind of insane pressure by some well funded and organized political extremist groups," Fonda wrote.

QVC acknowledged Fonda's appearance was canceled, but said it was because of a "programing change."

"It's not unusual to have a schedule change with our shows and guests with little or no notice," QVC spokesman Paul Capelli said in a statement.

"I can't speak to Ms. Fonda's comments, other than to confirm that a change in scheduling resulted in her not appearing today."

In 2005, Fonda was spat upon at a book signing in Kansas City, Missouri, by a man who said he was angered by her Vietnam War-era actions.

"Bottom line, this has gone on far too long, this spreading of lies about me!" Fonda wrote at TheWrap.com. "... I love my country. I have never done anything to hurt my country or the men and women who have fought and continue to fight for us."

The daughter of late screen legend Henry Fonda, the actress most recently starred in 2007 film "Georgia Rule." She won Oscars for roles in the films "Coming Home" (1978) and "Klute" (1971).

QVC is a unit of Liberty Media Corp.

(Reporting by Alex Dobuzinskis: Editing by Bob Tourtellotte)

If words are cheap, why is a big deal being made over something she said 40 years ago? I guess the title of the OP is a lie.

 

[Sallow]

Vietnam was a war crime..and a Genocide.

What Fonda did should have made her a hero.

I don't know how any American can get behind the slaughter that was Vietnam. Millions of innocent people were killed as a result of America's invasion. Fonda's only problem was that she didn't see that the troops were as trapped into this bullshit as the Vietnamese.

 

[Moonglow]

And the Right are the first to talk about how OTHERS have an obsessive capacity for hate.

The irony!

It is not hate it is justice. Does she not deserve to be remembered as a traitor like Benedict Arnold or was he also a hero? Get over it you lost the Cold War even though you did everything you could to aid the communist war afford. But at least you can bask in the memories of millions of people being worked to death by their communist masters. It give you warm feeling don’t it? When Jane Fonda dies there is a place in hell along side her hero Stalin, what about you?

Don't forget your going to be at the same dinner table with Stalin also.

 

[uscitizen]

That bitch can rot in hell and I hope today's youth NEVER forget Hanoi Jane. Fuck her and her whining. Good for QVC!

Get a life, Grace. Sheesh. I am a veteran, a lifetime member of the DAV. If I can let it go, I really don't want to hear it from you.

Yep same from here a Nam combat vet.

 

[Moonglow]

the war was a nasty bit o fun.

 

[uscitizen]

It was no fun at all.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That bitch can rot in hell and I hope today's youth NEVER forget Hanoi Jane. Fuck her and her whining. Good for QVC!

Get a life, Grace. Sheesh. I am a veteran, a lifetime member of the DAV. If I can let it go, I really don't want to hear it from you.

YOU may be able to let it go and ignore it...MANY other Viet Name vets cannot and will not because she is a traitor! I can't believe you can just forget what she did....

You are entitled to your wrongheaded opinion, of course, but having a spiteful soul is a lousy way to spend your time.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Here ya go Jake.:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general/162896-hanoi-jane.html

Read it and weep, bubba. I suggest you find a board that is a Hanoi Jane Lovefest. Don't wanna hear it from me some more? Tough shit.

You can have your own wrongheaded opinion, of course, but your emotional reaction does you no credit as an American.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hey Jake. A hey and hello. I had two best friends serving in nam at the time when that douche bag went over and cheered the north on. Empowered the north. fucking barbarella. her only claim to fame is she was the daughter of an excellent actor.

Fuck you. And I still hope that monster who calls herself a patriot fucking dies the most horrible death for the shit she did.

You want to forgive her? By all means, that is what you can do. But for me, I hope she rots in hell.

Such a tiny damaged soul you have, tinydancer. Five guys from high school died there. At least another ten were wounded or injured. None of us hate Jane Fonda. You folks who weren't there have no moral legitimacy to hate. Leave it to the vets from then to make the choice.

 

[Jack Fate]

Hey Jake. A hey and hello. I had two best friends serving in nam at the time when that douche bag went over and cheered the north on. Empowered the north. fucking barbarella. her only claim to fame is she was the daughter of an excellent actor.

Fuck you. And I still hope that monster who calls herself a patriot fucking dies the most horrible death for the shit she did.

You want to forgive her? By all means, that is what you can do. But for me, I hope she rots in hell.

Such a tiny damaged soul you have, tinydancer. Five guys from high school died there. At least another ten were wounded or injured. None of us hate Jane Fonda. You folks who weren't there have no moral legitimacy to hate. Leave it to the vets from then to make the choice.

And who are you to tell us what is "moral"? Everyone in the USA is free to express their opinion about anyone and anything.

 

[José]

Originally posted by Sunni Man
First of all let me qualify by saying that I am a Vietnam vet.

Secondly, history has proven Jane Fonda to be correct in her assessment of the United States involvement of the war.

Last, we need more patriotic people like her to stand up and fight against government injustice and abuse.

Originally posted by konradv
If words are cheap, why is a big deal being made over something she said 40 years ago? I guess the title of the OP is a lie.

Originally posted by Sallow
Vietnam was a war crime..and a Genocide.

What Fonda did should have made her a hero.

I don't know how any American can get behind the slaughter that was Vietnam. Millions of innocent people were killed as a result of America's invasion. Fonda's only problem was that she didn't see that the troops were as trapped into this bullshit as the Vietnamese.

Everybody knows the story of the old grandpa thrown into a madhouse by their greedy relatives. Well... Sallow, Sunni, konrad offer definitive proof that I'm not the only sane people in a madhouse.

But this debate is a waste of time... Extreme, pathological nationalism has the effect of clouding people's judgement, it prevents people from thinking clearly, from distinguishing the forest from the trees.

In the eyes of the pathologically nationalist individual a trip to Vietnam to stop the wholesale slaughter of a third world people and to show support for a genuine, grassroots nationalist movement is more outrageous than the total clusterfuck created by the leaders of their own nation that motivated the trip in the first place.

If wayne, CarolJo, Grace, Patrick2 etc... had been born in ancient Rome they'd be portraying Jesus as a monster for whipping the money changers while turning a blind eye to each and every atrocity commited by the Roman Empire.

They criticize Nazi Germany's national anthem ("Deutchland uber alles" = "Germany above everything") but can't help goose-stepping to the sound of the US national anthem.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Cause I feel it my responsibility to my fellow Americans to point out the most stupid ones.

Well, let's see if I can add to your exiguous store of knowledge.

The traitor not only spit in the face of American soldiers, but refused to take any responsiblity for the millions of Asians killed by the communists that she supported....
....refused to do as little as sign Joan Baez's open letter:

1. In 1979, Humanitas, the organization of anti-war activist Joan Baez, purchased a newspaper ad that ran in five large circulation dailies, called “An Open Letter to the Socialist Republic of Vietnam,” which ran in part: “Thousands of innocent Vietnamese, many of whose only “crimes” are those of conscience, are being arrested, detained and tortured in prison and re-education camps… The jails are overflowing with thousands upon thousands of “detainees”… People disappear and never return… People are used as human mine detectors, clearing live mine fields with their hands and feet. For many, life is hell and death is prayed for. With tragic irony, the cruelty, violence and oppression practiced by foreign powers in your country for more than a century continue today under the present regime.

It was an abiding commitment to fundamental principles of human dignity, freedom and self-determination that motivated so many Americans to oppose the government of South Vietnam and our country's participation in the war. It is that same commitment that compels us to speak out against your brutal disregard of human rights. As in the 60s, we raise our voices now so that your people may live. And a Voice to Sing With -- A Memoir, by Joan Baez


2. Baez mailed the letter to 350 anti-war activists. Among those who refused to sign was Jane Fonda. “Your name would mean much more than any other,” she told Fonda, in a long letter. Fonda wrote that the add would lend credence to those who believe “that Communism is worse than death…” Washington Post, Lynn Darling, “Joan Baez at 38,” June 29, 1979

 

[Jack Fate]

Originally posted by Sunni Man
First of all let me qualify by saying that I am a Vietnam vet.

Secondly, history has proven Jane Fonda to be correct in her assessment of the United States involvement of the war.

Last, we need more patriotic people like her to stand up and fight against government injustice and abuse.

Originally posted by konradv
If words are cheap, why is a big deal being made over something she said 40 years ago? I guess the title of the OP is a lie.

Originally posted by Sallow
Vietnam was a war crime..and a Genocide.

What Fonda did should have made her a hero.

I don't know how any American can get behind the slaughter that was Vietnam. Millions of innocent people were killed as a result of America's invasion. Fonda's only problem was that she didn't see that the troops were as trapped into this bullshit as the Vietnamese.

Everybody knows the story of the old grandpa thrown into a madhouse by their greedy relatives. Well... Sallow, Sunni, konrad offer definitive proof that I'm not the only sane people in a madhouse.

But this debate is a waste of time... Extreme, pathological nationalism has the effect of clouding people's judgement, it prevents people from thinking clearly, from distinguishing the forest from the trees.

In the eyes of the pathologically nationalist individual a trip to Vietnam to stop the wholesale slaughter of a third world people and to show support for a genuine, grassroots nationalist movement is more outrageous than the total clusterfuck created by the leaders of their own nation that motivated the trip in the first place.

If wayne, CarolJo, Grace, Patrick2 etc... had been born in ancient Rome they'd be portraying Jesus as a monster for whipping the money changers while turning a blind eye to each and every atrocity commited by the Roman Empire.

They criticize Nazi Germany's national anthem ("Deutchland uber alles" = "Germany above everything") but can't help goose-stepping to the sound of the US national anthem.

She showed support for our enemy, doesn't matter your opinion of who was right or wrong. We all had family over there fighting, being mutilated, and dying. You can have your opinion about a war without helping the enemy with his propaganda. She went too far. Some of you just don't get it.