Will You Still Have a Job, If Hillary Gets Elected ?

[protectionist]

i'm curious, where are you getting this $123 billion number?

i'm also curious - why do you think moody's and most economists would decide to put out false information?

1. Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2012

2. The either decide it, or they just don't take in the proper criteria correctly. Just for one important example, have they included the information of item # 1 in this post ? Ask yourself THAT.

 

[protectionist]

Totally true. To not know that means you have to have a very, very determined ignorance. It's something that must me worked at to keep from knowing the truth.

NO!...YOU are the ignorant one. THIS information will cure that ignorance. Read it slowly, so you don't make the same mistake again.

The New York Times article published on the same day, was more honest than the National Trump-Basher. Here's part of what they wrote >>

"For anyone not hired, the employer must tell the Labor Department why. Among the reasons Mar-a-Lago gave: that the applicants could not be reached or were not qualified, as Mr. Trump suggested in his recent interview, and that they did not want the jobs.

That was the case for Austin L. Cohen of Delray Beach, who received a call from Mar-a-Lago and a tour of the 20-acre resort after sending in his résumé for a wait staff position that paid $10.60 an hour for at least 30 hours a week.

Mr. Cohen said that he ultimately chose to keep looking for a permanent job, and that he wanted benefits; the job listing did not mention any. “It was more like a temporary position,” Mr. Cohen said. “You work six months and then you’re out of work again. It was my decision not to take the job.”

Some applicants said they decided against working at Mar-a-Lago because, like some other private clubs, it discourages gratuities; its job listings say “no tips.” Local labor analysts say that private clubs often lose job candidates to restaurants where tipping is permitted."

Florida has a seasonal employment situation. The state is inundated with northerners and Canadians who live in Florida just during the winter months, and not many Americans want to work just for 6 months, if that long. Many apply out of desperation, but never follow through. This is common all over the state in winter.

You also have a lot of people who apply who aren't qualified, have no experience or training (the foreign workers come from a group of trade school graduates), and/or have criminal records (which is why they're unemployed to begin with).

Finding clean record, qualified workers in Florida during the winter, is not a simple task. Trump (and all Florida seasonal employers) has had trouble finding QUALIFIED people to work in his hotels. In hotels (I have worked in them & I live in Florida), workers need to be experiences or trained, and LOOK GOOD. Appearance is important in hotel work, as is a non-criminal record. Just because you get applicants, doesn't mean you get hirable workers.

Trump hired some workers from an agency in Europe whose workers have graduated from training schools in hotel work, and they speak good English, have no criminal record, and look good.


You want to hire THESE GUYS ?

As for the statement that >> "Trump manufactures his products overseas" ....Oh yeah ? Are you sure about that ? Are you sure it's not others who manufacture THEIR ,products overseas and they just pay Trump to allow them to put his name on them? Are you sure ?

 

[ogibillm]

i'm curious, where are you getting this $123 billion number?

i'm also curious - why do you think moody's and most economists would decide to put out false information?

1. Remittance Flows Worldwide in 2012

2. The either decide it, or they just don't take in the proper criteria correctly. Just for one important example, have they included the information of item # 1 in this post ? Ask yourself THAT.

1. in no way will trump stop remittances.
2. yes.

 

[protectionist]

Many corporations don't even pay any taxes at all? How can you not know that?

Besides, name the jobs Trump wants to bring back. Go ahead, show us you know what you are talking about. Name the jobs.

Restore U.S. manufacturing? Robots just took 60K jobs at a factory in China

Manufacturing Jobs Are Never Coming Back

AI, Robotics, and the Future of Jobs

Obviously YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about. Jobs have ALREADY been coming back.

WalMart, General Electric, Farouk Systems, Ford, Boeing, Caterpillar, General Motors, Master Lock, Global Green Lighting, Generac Power Systems, Toyota , Siemens, Zentech, Thorley Industries, K'Nex Brands, Whirlpool, Motorola Mobility, Google, Nissan, just to name a few.

Manufacturers bringing the most jobs back to America

Record number of manufacturing jobs returning to America

More Jobs Coming Back to US from Overseas - Salary.com Business

After decades of exodus, companies returning production to the U.S.

11 American Companies That Brought Jobs Back Home

And "many" corporations don't even pay any taxes at all ? No, not "many". And corporate taxes are one of the main reasons why companies went overseas to begin with. With Hillary raising those taxes, they have more reason to stay overseas. With Trump lowering the corporate rate to 15% (10% lower than China), they have incentive to return (in addition to tariffs on their imports being sent here)

And Hillary's silly "exit tax TV ads as are pure BS. This is a NON-ISSUE. Generally, all the companies that would leave the US have already left some years ago.. There is hardly anyone to give an exit tax to. Companies are returning now, not leaving.

 

[Bush92]

Better start asking yourself some hard questions, before we get any deeper into the presidential campaign. Maybe the first question is what would be the ramifications of a Hillary Clinton presidency. By this time only a blind toad doesn't realize that Hillary is a lying, money-grabbing, ruthless, opportunist, who will do anything to secure power, and hold on to it.

Making this worse, she is also a firmly established OUTSOURCER. For those who are not too up on that word allow me to elucidate. There are 2 basic types of outsourcing.

1. International - where the US jobs leave the US, go overseas, and utilize cheap, foreign labor.

2. Domestic - applies to those particular jobs that can only be done inside the USA (landscaping, construction, hotels, janitorial, etc) This is commonly accomplished by bringing the foreign labor to the US either by immigration or with visas.

Hillary is a notorious outsourcer on both of these types. On international outsourcing, she and Bill essentially invented NAFTA, she is a member of the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, and a strong supporter of TPP (up until it recently became expedient for her to oppose it, in an ELECTION YEAR) If anyone is snowed by her anti-outsourcing TV ads, I've got a bridge in Brooklyn waiting for them.

On the domestic outsourcing end, Hillary has openly stated her support for the DREAM Act, and says she would expand it further. Well of course, like all Democrats, she is totally in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens, and laughably refers to it "comprehensive immigration reform". She has also supported Sanctuary Cities, and just about anything else that helps bring more low-wage job-swiping foreigners into the country (who also swipe $123 Billion/yr out of our economy in remittances$$) Yup. And the "comprehensive" part is where all these dirt-poor, sandal-wearing, floppy hat aliens coming from 3rd world hellholes, repay them by giving them their VOTES, once they're here, which is the whole idea of it from the Democrats' perspective.

But what does all this mean to YOU, Mr. and Mrs. American, working, taxpaying stiff ? Whether you are White, Black, Brown, Yellow, or whatever race or religion, or ethnicity, what it means if that if Hillary were to be elected, we could very well see an avalanche of 3rd world migration into the US, with many of them going straight on welfare rolls that YOU are paying for (with your taxes very likely going up to pay for the added costs) and many of the new arrivals taking jobs. Jobs ? What jobs ?

YOUR job, that's what job. Don't think so ? Better look a little deeper. All over America, for 10 years now, foreigners have been replacing Americans in everything from landscaping to construction to truck diving, etc, etc. And STEM jobs aren't immune either. In fact, they're right in the forefront. I saw a list recently of over 200 companies whose long-time American workers were fired to open up jobs for lower-wage foreigners, with the Americans being forced to train the less-qualified foreigners, or less lose their severance packages. They were also threatened to keep quiet about it.

And would Hillary exacerbate this anti-American situation ? No question is easier to answer. Of course she would/will, because unlike Donald Trump (a nationalist), Hillary is a pure INTERnationlaist (AKA "Globalist), who sees the world map as land masses without national borders. More easy for here to make money that way, but more importantly right now, it is from Hillary's perspective a way to pile up the VOTE COUNTS that she needs to avoid another 2008 defeat, gain a victory in 2016, get Democrats elected to Congress in 2018, and get herself re-elected, with no trouble, in 2020.

And your job ? And your livelihood ? Forget it. You won't have one. You'll be considered just a bothersome inconvenience for Hillary to sweep away. And your chance to get welfare when you lose your job ? Not too great, since the stress on welfare budgets will be enormous - you'll be in competition with millions of new Hillary voters, both on the job and off it.

Back, back, back,....gone Home Run!!!!

 

[BULLDOG]

Column: Trump's outrage over outsourcing doesn't apply to his own merchandise

That misinformation propaganda was already refuted earlier in the thread/ Read the thread before posting.

No it wasn't.

 

[Bush92]

protectionist babbles along as always. Trump will do nothing for the workers, he is a rich capitalist. If elected, he will not bring jobs back from overseas. Why would he: he makes more money from lower paid workers in other countries.

protectionist opposes the working class. He supports rich capitalists like Trump who is going to ship more jobs overseas.

Trump is obviously the enemy of the American worker.

YOU oppose the AMERICAN working class. YOU support illegal immigration that is taking millions of jobs away from AMERICAN WORKERS. You support Hillary who is paid off by Wall St big capitalists. You're one of them.
If you oppose Trump then you;re opposing what us needed to bring jobs back to the US >>>

1. Lower the corporate tax rate (to 15%)

2. Tariff imports

Simple as that.

And NO , Trump does make money from workers in other countries, but that's only because his buildings are there. He doesn't outsource stuff from here to there. He is a NATIONALIST. Hillary is the INTERNATIONALIST (AKA GLOBALIST) >> outsourcer.

Many corporations don't even pay any taxes at all? How can you not know that?

Besides, name the jobs Trump wants to bring back. Go ahead, show us you know what you are talking about. Name the jobs.

Restore U.S. manufacturing? Robots just took 60K jobs at a factory in China

Manufacturing Jobs Are Never Coming Back

AI, Robotics, and the Future of Jobs

Obviously YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about. Jobs have ALREADY been coming back.

WalMart, General Electric, Farouk Systems, Ford, Boeing, Caterpillar, General Motors, Master Lock, Global Green Lighting, Generac Power Systems, Toyota , Siemens, Zentech, Thorley Industries, K'Nex Brands, Whirlpool, Motorola Mobility, Google, Nissan, just to name a few.

Manufacturers bringing the most jobs back to America

Record number of manufacturing jobs returning to America

More Jobs Coming Back to US from Overseas - Salary.com Business

After decades of exodus, companies returning production to the U.S.

11 American Companies That Brought Jobs Back Home

I won't have a job.

But then, I haven't had one since I retired 12 years ago

Big change in 12 years.

 

[Care4all]

Many corporations don't even pay any taxes at all? How can you not know that?

Besides, name the jobs Trump wants to bring back. Go ahead, show us you know what you are talking about. Name the jobs.

Restore U.S. manufacturing? Robots just took 60K jobs at a factory in China

Manufacturing Jobs Are Never Coming Back

AI, Robotics, and the Future of Jobs

Obviously YOU don't know what YOU'RE talking about. Jobs have ALREADY been coming back.

WalMart, General Electric, Farouk Systems, Ford, Boeing, Caterpillar, General Motors, Master Lock, Global Green Lighting, Generac Power Systems, Toyota , Siemens, Zentech, Thorley Industries, K'Nex Brands, Whirlpool, Motorola Mobility, Google, Nissan, just to name a few.

Manufacturers bringing the most jobs back to America

Record number of manufacturing jobs returning to America

More Jobs Coming Back to US from Overseas - Salary.com Business

After decades of exodus, companies returning production to the U.S.

11 American Companies That Brought Jobs Back Home

And "many" corporations don't even pay any taxes at all ? No, not "many". And corporate taxes are one of the main reasons why companies went overseas to begin with. With Hillary raises those taxes they have more reason to stay overseas. With Trump lowering the corporate rate to 15% (10% lower than China) they have incentive to return (In addition to tariffs on their imports being sent here)
And Hillary silly "exit tax TV ads as are pure BS. This is a NON-ISSUE. Generally all the companies that would leave the US have already left. There is hardly anyone to give an exit tax to. Companies are returning now, not leaving.

so, Obama is bringing jobs back to America...then what is your worry with Hillary?

 

[protectionist]

1. in no way will trump stop remittances.
2. yes.

1. Stopping remittances couldn't be easier. You just get rid of the remittancers.
2. Oh, so Moody's included the $123 Billion remittances, huh ? I don't believe that.

 

[protectionist]

so, Obama is bringing jobs back to America...then what is your worry with Hillary?

She's an OUTSOURCER, stupid. Have you been paying attention ?

 

[JakeStarkey]

so, Obama is bringing jobs back to America...then what is your worry with Hillary?

She's an OUTSOURCER, stupid. Have you been paying attention ?

Trump is a bigger outsourcer, Pay attention.

 

[Care4all]

so, Obama is bringing jobs back to America...then what is your worry with Hillary?

She's an OUTSOURCER, stupid. Have you been paying attention ?

Is Obama an ''outsourcer'' too?

 

[bripat9643]

reputable economists say clinton will umprove the economy while trump will lead us into recession and cost jobs.

so the question is, will you have a job under trump?

What makes them "reputable," being on the government payroll?

education and experience. the usual.

and moody's is not on the government payroll

Hmmm . . . wrong, being a government toady doesn't make you reputable. There are thousands upon thousands of scumbag lawyers plying their "trade." There are almost as many quack economists.

What does Moodies have to do with this thread?

 

[JakeStarkey]

bripat knows about being a toady, being one of Trump's biggest ones.

If he were a real anarchist as he claims rather than a Trump toady, he would vote for Gary Johnson.

 

[ogibillm]

reputable economists say clinton will umprove the economy while trump will lead us into recession and cost jobs.

so the question is, will you have a job under trump?

What makes them "reputable," being on the government payroll?

education and experience. the usual.

and moody's is not on the government payroll

Hmmm . . . wrong, being a government toady doesn't make you reputable. There are thousands upon thousands of scumbag lawyers plying their "trade." There are almost as many quack economists.

What does Moodies have to do with this thread?

there are no reputable economists saying trump's plans will be good for the economy.

moody's says not only will he not create jobs, he will cost 3.5 million jobs and cause a lasting recession that adds $11 trillion to the debt.

that's what moody's has to do with the thread

 

[Arianrhod]

As long as rightists don't know the difference between possessive and plural, I will never be out of work.

 

[initforme]

If we deport every last illegal are you going to demand those companies replacing those illegals raise their wages mightily? If not, why would you expect any natural born to fill those jobs. They really arent jobs though.

 

[bripat9643]

reputable economists say clinton will umprove the economy while trump will lead us into recession and cost jobs.

so the question is, will you have a job under trump?

What makes them "reputable," being on the government payroll?

education and experience. the usual.

and moody's is not on the government payroll

Hmmm . . . wrong, being a government toady doesn't make you reputable. There are thousands upon thousands of scumbag lawyers plying their "trade." There are almost as many quack economists.

What does Moodies have to do with this thread?

there are no reputable economists saying trump's plans will be good for the economy.

moody's says not only will he not create jobs, he will cost 3.5 million jobs and cause a lasting recession that adds $11 trillion to the debt.

that's what moody's has to do with the thread

Moody's is a government whore. It depends on various governments for much of its revenue. Rating government bonds is the biggest part of its business. Why should anyone but a government shill believe Moody's?

 

[bripat9643]

bripat knows about being a toady, being one of Trump's biggest ones.

If he were a real anarchist as he claims rather than a Trump toady, he would vote for Gary Johnson.

How would voting for a candidate who is sure to lose help repeal government?

 

[JakeStarkey]

bripat knows about being a toady, being one of Trump's biggest ones.

If he were a real anarchist as he claims rather than a Trump toady, he would vote for Gary Johnson.

How would voting for a candidate who is sure to lose help repeal government?

How do you reply to a sentence that does not make sense?