Will Impeachment cost Democrats the House?

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    Opinion | The Incredible Shrinking Impeachment

    Americans will decide in 11 months whether Trump deserves to remain in office. But they should also keep the impeachment vote very much in mind when they decide whether Democrats deserve to keep the House.


    Whatever happened to bribery and extortion? Democrats spent weeks talking them up as the crimes of Trump’s Ukraine interventions.

    Democrats changed their narrative to “abuse of power,” a phrase general enough for anything Congress wants to stuff into it. They don’t even pretend any more to prove a quid pro quo. Instead they assert that Trump, in his phone call with Ukraine’s president, “solicited the interference of a foreign government” in the 2020 election “in pursuit of personal political benefit.” They also assert that this “compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process.”

    Their problem is that Mr. Trump didn’t withhold military aid to Ukraine, and even if he had he would have merely been returning to Barack Obama’s policy of denying lethal aid. How would that have jeopardized national security? Every President also solicits actions from foreign leaders that he hopes will help him politically at home.

    As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

     
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    31 democrats won in 2018 in districts that Trump won by 10+ points in 2016.
    So all Trump needs to do is win back 20 or more of those seats and the House swings back to the GOP.
    In 2020 the Never-Trumpers, at least those with brains, will be back on the right side.
    After Durham exposes the largest scandal in US history, the Obama admin spying on the Trump campaign, Trump will win an even larger Electoral Landslide.
     
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    They're not really interested in impeachment. They're interested in distracting the serfs from what's actually going on behind the scenes. They just crammed 12 really serious bills into one spending bill which basically funds everything Trump wants to do, including tossing out the 4th Amendment. Those bills should, by rule, be sent to the President as separate bills. Then they'll come in a few hours before the 12/20 deadline and tell em they can't go home unless they vote on it. All will vote on it without ever reading it and Trump will sign it. And not a single peep about it from any media source.

    What Trump just did with that EO is actually an impeachable offense. But we have crickets chirping about that.

    Americans deserve everything they get. Balls deep, too. That's my new outlook on things. The sheer inattentiveness of the electorate is destroying everything the Founders built. Everything.
     
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    HA! Good luck impeaching over an anti-racism EO....if, instead of protecting Jews it had made it a crime to discriminate against white people (which is actually common practice at colleges all across the nation), then the impeachment would be a sure fire thing.
     
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    It's an anti-Constitution EO is what it is. Whatever, though. Like I said. Balls deep. I hope America likes it that way. It's only gonna get worse. I hope they build that wall so high and tight that nobody can get out.
     
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    "Will Impeachment cost Democrats the House?"



    No. House Repubs are retiring because they expect to be in the Minority in 2021-2022.
     
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    I think it already has. Trump is about to walk with the whole bag of marbles.
    About the only thing the demodumbasses can do now is spend the next four years trying to extract their heads from their asses and restore some sanity to their soon to be defunct party if they don't.
     
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    The big problem for the Ds is that as soon as a special counsel is named by Barr they are up the creek without a paddle
     
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    Sounds like wishful thinking to me. What do you think the special counsel is going to do? Prosecute democrats for crimes? LOL!
     
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    So what? The number of republicans retiring isn't unusual, and they're in firm republican districts so another republican will be elected anyway, so your inference is moronic.

    The democrats are getting their ASSES HANDED TO THEM in this FARCICAL SHAM of an impeachment. They WILL lose the house, and there WILL be PAY BACK. What we are seeing is the LAST DYING GASPS by the congressional party in power right before they LOSE their power.
     
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