Will Impeachment cost Democrats the House?

[kyzr]

Who said I was outraged and why would Trump do that? Democrats have been trying to make shit up since he won they are the epitome of the boy who cried wolf.

You were the one who brought up Hillary’s emails

Let’s look at the record

Hillary testified under oath
Trump refuses to do so

Hillary released all of her official records
Trump has them hidden on a classified server

Hillary participated in the investigation
Trump refuses to do so and will not allow his staff to participate

Now, WHO is the one who should be removed from the ballot?

Neither the people should decide. Funny how you ignore the smashed blackberries and iPads. Not at all suspicious.

Hillary participated in the investigation and gave sworn testimony.....Trump has not

You lose

Trump is the President and HRC was not. Trump doesn’t have to appear because of that. You still have yet to address the smashed electronic devices. Trump won in 2016 and you have been whining ever since. So who really lost? You.

Hillary was a member of the Executive Branch doing her official duties
Why does Trump get to hide what he did in the Executive Branch and Hillary didn’t?

Because Hillary did her government business on an illegal bathroom server, and Trump follows protocols.
Any other stupid questions?

 

[Dr Grump]

Opinion | The Incredible Shrinking Impeachment

Americans will decide in 11 months whether Trump deserves to remain in office. But they should also keep the impeachment vote very much in mind when they decide whether Democrats deserve to keep the House.


Whatever happened to bribery and extortion? Democrats spent weeks talking them up as the crimes of Trump’s Ukraine interventions.

Democrats changed their narrative to “abuse of power,” a phrase general enough for anything Congress wants to stuff into it. They don’t even pretend any more to prove a quid pro quo. Instead they assert that Trump, in his phone call with Ukraine’s president, “solicited the interference of a foreign government” in the 2020 election “in pursuit of personal political benefit.” They also assert that this “compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process.”

Their problem is that Mr. Trump didn’t withhold military aid to Ukraine, and even if he had he would have merely been returning to Barack Obama’s policy of denying lethal aid. How would that have jeopardized national security? Every President also solicits actions from foreign leaders that he hopes will help him politically at home.

As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

No

 

[Dr Grump]

Because Hillary did her government business on an illegal bathroom server, and Trump follows protocols.
Any other stupid questions?

She was investigated and got a kick up the butt. That's all folks.

 

[longknife]

Opinion | The Incredible Shrinking Impeachment

Americans will decide in 11 months whether Trump deserves to remain in office. But they should also keep the impeachment vote very much in mind when they decide whether Democrats deserve to keep the House.


Whatever happened to bribery and extortion? Democrats spent weeks talking them up as the crimes of Trump’s Ukraine interventions.

Democrats changed their narrative to “abuse of power,” a phrase general enough for anything Congress wants to stuff into it. They don’t even pretend any more to prove a quid pro quo. Instead they assert that Trump, in his phone call with Ukraine’s president, “solicited the interference of a foreign government” in the 2020 election “in pursuit of personal political benefit.” They also assert that this “compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process.”

Their problem is that Mr. Trump didn’t withhold military aid to Ukraine, and even if he had he would have merely been returning to Barack Obama’s policy of denying lethal aid. How would that have jeopardized national security? Every President also solicits actions from foreign leaders that he hopes will help him politically at home.

As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

I hope the GOP takes the House back. That would each these Democrat Nazi pieces of shit a lesson about trying to overthrow the government

Of the last (8) presidents who ran for re-election only two were NOT re-elected. Carter and Papa Bush, because the economy hit a recession during their election.
In 2020 the economy appears to be ready to keep the steady growth without a recession. Brexit, China deals, a steady Fed, all look favorable for Trump.
Seems the stars are aligning, we'll see what happens closer to the 2020 election.

I was a kid but as I understand it, Bush Sr lost because Perot took many of his votes

Perot ran heavily on Bush's famous "No more taxes!" He gained a very large number of independents.
Carter lost because he could not bring home the Americans held prisoner in the Embassy in Iran.

 

[longknife]

Opinion | The Incredible Shrinking Impeachment

Americans will decide in 11 months whether Trump deserves to remain in office. But they should also keep the impeachment vote very much in mind when they decide whether Democrats deserve to keep the House.


Whatever happened to bribery and extortion? Democrats spent weeks talking them up as the crimes of Trump’s Ukraine interventions.

Democrats changed their narrative to “abuse of power,” a phrase general enough for anything Congress wants to stuff into it. They don’t even pretend any more to prove a quid pro quo. Instead they assert that Trump, in his phone call with Ukraine’s president, “solicited the interference of a foreign government” in the 2020 election “in pursuit of personal political benefit.” They also assert that this “compromised the national security of the United States and undermined the integrity of the United States democratic process.”

Their problem is that Mr. Trump didn’t withhold military aid to Ukraine, and even if he had he would have merely been returning to Barack Obama’s policy of denying lethal aid. How would that have jeopardized national security? Every President also solicits actions from foreign leaders that he hopes will help him politically at home.

As for corrupting the 2020 election, even if Ukraine had announced an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden, Trump couldn’t know how effective it would be, how long it would take, or whether it might even exonerate them. The election is still a year away. If the mere announcement of a foreign government’s investigation into corruption can poison a U.S. election, then American democracy must be weaker than even its enemies think.

I hope the GOP takes the House back. That would each these Democrat Nazi pieces of shit a lesson about trying to overthrow the government

Of the last (8) presidents who ran for re-election only two were NOT re-elected. Carter and Papa Bush, because the economy hit a recession during their election.
In 2020 the economy appears to be ready to keep the steady growth without a recession. Brexit, China deals, a steady Fed, all look favorable for Trump.
Seems the stars are aligning, we'll see what happens closer to the 2020 election.

I was a kid but as I understand it, Bush Sr lost because Perot took many of his votes

Ross Perot took 18.9% of the vote, mostly from Bush. Here is an excerpt from wiki. He would have been better than Trump. Except the establishment hadn't moved the 60,000 factories to China back in 1992, they were just getting started. It was just bad timing. The GOP hadn't lost 2 presidential elections like when we voted Trump in as our populist. Lesson learned, do not use 3rd parties, they hurt your cause more than help it.

Ross Perot - Wikipedia
"In 1992, Perot announced his intention to run for president and advocated a balanced budget, an end to the outsourcing of jobs, and the enactment of electronic direct democracy. A June 1992 Gallup poll showed Perot leading a three-way race against President Bush and presumptive Democratic nominee Bill Clinton. Perot briefly withdrew from the race in July, but re-entered the race in early October after he qualified for all 50 state ballots. He chose Admiral James Stockdale as his running mate and appeared in the 1992 debates with Bush and Clinton. In the election, Perot received 18.9% of the popular vote, but did not win any electoral votes."

What do you think the chances are that the moderate Dems start their own party? The far left seems to own the current Dem party I think, and I don't know that they'll be going away anytime soon.

If anything, I see a number of Dims renouncing their party membership and claiming to be Independents.

 

[rightwinger]

You were the one who brought up Hillary’s emails

Let’s look at the record

Hillary testified under oath
Trump refuses to do so

Hillary released all of her official records
Trump has them hidden on a classified server

Hillary participated in the investigation
Trump refuses to do so and will not allow his staff to participate

Now, WHO is the one who should be removed from the ballot?

Neither the people should decide. Funny how you ignore the smashed blackberries and iPads. Not at all suspicious.

Hillary participated in the investigation and gave sworn testimony.....Trump has not

You lose

Trump is the President and HRC was not. Trump doesn’t have to appear because of that. You still have yet to address the smashed electronic devices. Trump won in 2016 and you have been whining ever since. So who really lost? You.

Hillary was a member of the Executive Branch doing her official duties
Why does Trump get to hide what he did in the Executive Branch and Hillary didn’t?

All this is a political chatter. Hillary committed crimes against humanity by forcing her husband to launch bombing of Yugoslavia and her place in prison

You Goofy