Why we need a public option!

[Revere]

No IDIOT, its an insurance group that charges premiums and deductables and makes no profit which makes the product cheaper.

You have bought into the right wing hack lies about what it is.

LOL I see you have zero ability to think how this would affect tomorrow. My God. A non profit doesnt take away the things that will happen. Try common sense instead of dem rethoric.

Dear idiot.,
Non profits opperate in this country just fine and have for decades.


YOU PEOPLE ARE BRAINWASHED!

Then go start one. Why do you want to force me into one?

 

[Wry Catcher]

It only shifts costs to the private pay mechanism for health care.

Its a non profit insurance group you IDIOT, it is paid for by the premuim holders.

The cost savings are created by preventive care and NO PROFIT TAKING!

why dont you already know this????????

Because YOU have bought the right wing lies.

Why should government tell a business it can't make a profit?

Is your fall-back position always a non sequitur? Did anyone suggest the government is telling business it can't make a profit?
In fact most insuance companies would not pay for the preventative medicine - saving them money - and in the long haul insurance companies would save by not having to pay for long term care and hospitalization if early detection, early treatments, reduces the need for surgery, in hospital care and specialists.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why should government tell a business it can't make a profit?

Because its set up as a non profit ffrom the very start fool.


Your brains have been scambled by right wing loonacy.

Since when does lack of profit guarantee people will get all of a needed good they want?

Non-profits do not drive down costs on healthcare. Profits (even for "non profit" insitutions) fuel future growth and improvement in the organization.
The Left does not, cannot, and will not understand this and they continue to see any profit as "obscene" and evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

 

[Truthmatters]

Why should government tell a business it can't make a profit?

Because its set up as a non profit ffrom the very start fool.


Your brains have been scambled by right wing loonacy.

Since when does lack of profit guarantee people will get all of a needed good they want?

It will pay for its self, it will give coverage to people who can not afford the PROFIT insurance and it will force the insurance Cos to stop raising prices to meet their investors need for MORE profit each year.

Why do you hate a program that gives people a chance to get healthcare, pays for itself and keeps the HC industry from raping us?

 

[Revere]

Its a non profit insurance group you IDIOT, it is paid for by the premuim holders.

The cost savings are created by preventive care and NO PROFIT TAKING!

why dont you already know this????????

Because YOU have bought the right wing lies.

Why should government tell a business it can't make a profit?

Is your fall-back position always a non sequitur? Did anyone suggest the government is telling business it can't make a profit?
In fact most insuance companies would not pay for the preventative medicine - saving them money - and in the long haul insurance companies would save by not having to pay for long term care and hospitalization if early detection, early treatments, reduces the need for surgery, in hospital care and specialists.

Why should government tell them to do that?

 

[Revere]

Because its set up as a non profit ffrom the very start fool.


Your brains have been scambled by right wing loonacy.

Since when does lack of profit guarantee people will get all of a needed good they want?

It will pay for its self, it will give coverage to people who can not afford the PROFIT insurance and it will force the insurance Cos to stop raising prices to meet their investors need for MORE profit each year.

Why do you hate a program that gives people a chance to get healthcare, pays for itself and keeps the HC industry from raping us?

Go start one, and leave my health insurance alone.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why should government tell a business it can't make a profit?

Is your fall-back position always a non sequitur? Did anyone suggest the government is telling business it can't make a profit?
In fact most insuance companies would not pay for the preventative medicine - saving them money - and in the long haul insurance companies would save by not having to pay for long term care and hospitalization if early detection, early treatments, reduces the need for surgery, in hospital care and specialists.

Why should government tell them to do that?

Never mind that. The scenario is wrong. There is no evidence that expensive diagnostic tests decrease overall health care costs. On the contrary, they drive them up.
Wry Catcher is living in a dream world of "free" health care.

 

[Truthmatters]

Because its set up as a non profit ffrom the very start fool.


Your brains have been scambled by right wing loonacy.

Since when does lack of profit guarantee people will get all of a needed good they want?

Non-profits do not drive down costs on healthcare. Profits (even for "non profit" insitutions) fuel future growth and improvement in the organization.
The Left does not, cannot, and will not understand this and they continue to see any profit as "obscene" and evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

Dear idiot, for profits do the same thing AS WELL AS PROVIDE INVESTOR PROFIT!


You are so fucking stupid

 

[Truthmatters]

Since when does lack of profit guarantee people will get all of a needed good they want?

It will pay for its self, it will give coverage to people who can not afford the PROFIT insurance and it will force the insurance Cos to stop raising prices to meet their investors need for MORE profit each year.

Why do you hate a program that gives people a chance to get healthcare, pays for itself and keeps the HC industry from raping us?

Go start one, and leave my health insurance alone.

You fucking brick brained con, this is what YOUR side refused to allow to happen in this country.

 

[Revere]

Is your fall-back position always a non sequitur? Did anyone suggest the government is telling business it can't make a profit?
In fact most insuance companies would not pay for the preventative medicine - saving them money - and in the long haul insurance companies would save by not having to pay for long term care and hospitalization if early detection, early treatments, reduces the need for surgery, in hospital care and specialists.

Why should government tell them to do that?

Never mind that. The scenario is wrong. There is no evidence that expensive diagnostic tests decrease overall health care costs. On the contrary, they drive them up.
Wry Catcher is living in a dream world of "free" health care.

You're right, there is no evidence.

All you will get is people demanding services government tells them are "free."

 

[Revere]

It will pay for its self, it will give coverage to people who can not afford the PROFIT insurance and it will force the insurance Cos to stop raising prices to meet their investors need for MORE profit each year.

Why do you hate a program that gives people a chance to get healthcare, pays for itself and keeps the HC industry from raping us?

Go start one, and leave my health insurance alone.

You fucking brick brained con, this is what YOUR side refused to allow to happen in this country.

There are plenty of non-profit insurers in this country.

 

[Truthmatters]

LIES LIES LIES,

The free she was talking about is FREE visits for things that are preventative care.

She means the PO would set up to have NO DEDUCTABLES for things that were preventaive care.

Cant you people EVER stick to the truth?

 

[Revere]

What is "free?"

 

[Truthmatters]

The office visit reguires no deductable payment for a visit that is preventative in nature.


The non profits are not powerful enough.

It will have to be national to have the power to compete with the greater insurance industry.

 

[Bern80]

How quicky the right forgets the huge price increases the Insurance cos have treated us to over the last couple of decades while their profits were off the charts.

They will game us to death until we have a public option that will threaten their ability to act like a monopoly.

Have you actually looked at how profitable insurance companies are? No your facts before you make stupid statements. I don't call profit margins in the single digits 'off the charts'.

 

[Truthmatters]

FORTUNE 500 2007: Industry: - Revenues, Profits

Look at the rise in profits by the big ones




REVENUES PROFITS
Rank Company 1,000 revenues rank $ millions % change from 2005 $ millions % change from 2005
1 UnitedHealth Group 21 71,542 58 4,159 26
2 Wellpoint 35 56,953 26 3,095 26
3 Aetna 85 25,569 12 1,702 4
4 Humana 110 21,417 49 487 58
5 Cigna 139 16,547 -1 1,155 -29
6 Health Net 189 12,908 8 329 43
7 Coventry Health Care 313 7,734 17 560 12
8 WellCare Health Plans 551 3,763 100 139 168
9 Amerigroup 676 2,835 22 107 100
10 Centene 792 2,279 51 -44 -178
11 Medical Mutual of Ohio 847 2,039 10 100 57
12 Molina Healthcare 858 2,005 22 46 66
13 Sierra Health Services 943 1,719 24 140 17

From the April 30th, 2007 issue

This is the profits Im talking about.

 

[Truthmatters]

Wellcare saw its profits raise 168 % in two years.


Amerigroup 100 %



Humana 58%

 

[Revere]

The office visit reguires no deductable payment for a visit that is preventative in nature.


The non profits are not powerful enough.

It will have to be national to have the power to compete with the greater insurance industry.

And that makes it "free?"

 

[Truthmatters]

Why do you refuse to agknowledge the answer I already gave you hack?

 

[Truthmatters]

Nearly 59 million lack health insurance: CDC - Yahoo! News

Call it what you will, a public option providing free preventative health care is cost-effective, providing long term benefits to individuals and the nation as a whole.
The effort by some, in particular those who hope to develop publc policy along ideological guidelines, will put even those with excellent private insurance at risk should a pandemic or worse come to America.

read it again folks


She is talking about deductableless visits for preventative care.