Why Trump is after NATO...only 5 countries out of 27 members are meeting their pledge!

[bodecea]

What a GLORIOUS beginning the NATO meetings are off to! In what was supposed to be a most "civilized" setting, Trump has gone GONZO laying into these sissies like a whirling dervish. Their mouths fell open when he told them he's seen enough foot-dragging, playing Uncle Sam for a sucker, and doing business with the Ivans while we protect them from the Ivans. This isn't a euro-loving fool like Barry and he's not obliged to beg them for help in the ME anymore. Now it's time to balance the books, which they can more than afford to do. Merkel got all miffed trying to head-fake the German people that her crazy immigration problems aren't as important as Trump trashing her pittance military spending. These limp-wrists will either pay up and quick or face the Russians alone and it starts with yanking our troops out of Germany...Trump is PISSED and not taking anything but YES for an answer this time.

#MAAA! Make America Alone Again

BTW...love your fake wrestling attachment.

 

[bendog]

Many European members -- including big economies like France and Germany -- spend less than the amount called for by NATO guidelines.

The U.S. shells out far more money on defense than any other nation on the planet.

According to NATO statistics, the U.S. spent an estimated $650 billion on defense last year.
That's more than double the amount all the other 27 NATO countries spent between them, even though their combined GDP tops that of the U.S.
Which NATO members are falling short on military spending?
The AGREEMENT of 27 NATO members is that they would spend 2% or more on their OWN defense .

What is your problem?

My problem is that for far too many people like you they see that we spend more money on defense than any other nation on the planet, more than the next 7 combined, and your response is not "holy fuck why do we spend so much" it is "those deadbeats should spend more".

My problem is that people like you call it "defense" spending when the vast majority of what we do with our military has little to do with defense.

Has it ever even once enterd that little sheep mind of yours that perhaps the issue is not the rest of the world, but our own spending?

Do these NATO countries spend money on their troops stationed in countries as the USA does as a member of NATO to defend these countries as best illustrated as
to their % of GDP being spent on defense.

By the way are you such a Trump hater you put that first rather than the USA interest? I mean what is SO wrong with Trump raising issues like this?
You and others like you malign Trump for larger military expenditures and when he asks NATO to share a bigger load... you attack Trump? That makes no sense!

You are barking up the wrong tree here, I am the guy that for as long as I have been on this forum have advocated pulling our troops, at least half if not more, out of Europe and stationing them on our southern border to actually defend this country for a change.

We do not under spend on our military, it is not underfunded, it is misused.

Unfortunately, Trump is probably not the guy for the job, but reevaluating just what we are trying to do with defense spending is overdue. Bannon was his strategist, but Bannon is more or less a white supremacist bomb thrower, so people like the Mercers and Mellon Scafides have no use for him either. Still, Trump even at age 73 saw the question

On the left ... yeah Pelosi and Shumer .... that's the ticket. Bernie Sanders is the intellectual giant and motivator of new thinking!\

Putin is unique in that he's the only threat still viewing the world as did Stalin in creating an economic empire contained by military and not by consent of people.

But do we need the Ford Class to keep open trade with China? Trump's policy towards Iran is NOT to trade with them. Meanwhile Germany and China are working a deal to trade and stay outside US banking sanctions. If THAT doesn't give you a sphinter check, you're brain dead.

Merkel is doing a gas deal with Putin to tie their economies together. Not totally diferent than we did with the Saudis ... and Carter and Reagan were both in on it.

Economies that are tied together are much less likely to go to war with each other, something neither Trump nor his sheep understand

Yeah, but I think Merkel confused a sheep with a bear wearing a sheep's suit. Does she think Putin will reverse course on reacquiring the Empire of the Tsars?

The Carter and Reagan globalists correctly perceived that if the Saudis foreign reserves were tied to Western real estate and stock equity the oil price shocks hurt them as much as us.

Obama's Iran deal did get Iran to not build a nuke totally, but it also aimed at Iran becoming more a "team player" as it entered into trade. Imo but the critics seem to think Iran was going to alter its outlook overnite, and I think Obama was playing more of a decades long game.

 

[Fang]

What a GLORIOUS beginning the NATO meetings are off to! In what was supposed to be a most "civilized" setting, Trump has gone GONZO laying into these sissies like a whirling dervish. Their mouths fell open when he told them he's seen enough foot-dragging, playing Uncle Sam for a sucker, and doing business with the Ivans while we protect them from the Ivans. This isn't a euro-loving fool like Barry and he's not obliged to beg them for help in the ME anymore. Now it's time to balance the books, which they can more than afford to do. Merkel got all miffed trying to head-fake the German people that her crazy immigration problems aren't as important as Trump trashing her pittance military spending. These limp-wrists will either pay up and quick or face the Russians alone and it starts with yanking our troops out of Germany...Trump is PISSED and not taking anything but YES for an answer this time.

#MAAA! Make America Alone Again

BTW...love your fake wrestling attachment.

#MLWA Make Liberals Whine Again

 

[Dschrute3]

The EU's been playing the US for a fool for many years. It's gotten very fat and happy off it. It's about time they start paying up. But i still feel NATO should be disbanded. It's an obsolete organization at this point. It no longer serves its stated purpose. It's no longer a defensive entity. It's an aggressor now. It routinely bombs nations that are absolutely no threat to Europe and the US. It's time for it to be shut down. That's my take anyway.

 

[Tom Horn]

BTW...love your fake wrestling attachment.

"fake"?

 

[bodecea]

What a GLORIOUS beginning the NATO meetings are off to! In what was supposed to be a most "civilized" setting, Trump has gone GONZO laying into these sissies like a whirling dervish. Their mouths fell open when he told them he's seen enough foot-dragging, playing Uncle Sam for a sucker, and doing business with the Ivans while we protect them from the Ivans. This isn't a euro-loving fool like Barry and he's not obliged to beg them for help in the ME anymore. Now it's time to balance the books, which they can more than afford to do. Merkel got all miffed trying to head-fake the German people that her crazy immigration problems aren't as important as Trump trashing her pittance military spending. These limp-wrists will either pay up and quick or face the Russians alone and it starts with yanking our troops out of Germany...Trump is PISSED and not taking anything but YES for an answer this time.

#MAAA! Make America Alone Again

BTW...love your fake wrestling attachment.

#MLWA Make Liberals Whine Again

So.....you don't see the whining aspect of the OP? Why of course you don't....you are sufficiently groomed.

 

[Tom Horn]

So.....you don't see the whining aspect of the OP? Why of course you don't....you are sufficiently groomed.

Hey Pete...the OP is a CELEBRATION of an American President taking care of business....I know you're DUMBfounded by it....hasn't happened in years but it's happening now....so suck on it.

 

[healthmyths]

Many European members -- including big economies like France and Germany -- spend less than the amount called for by NATO guidelines.

The U.S. shells out far more money on defense than any other nation on the planet.

According to NATO statistics, the U.S. spent an estimated $650 billion on defense last year.
That's more than double the amount all the other 27 NATO countries spent between them, even though their combined GDP tops that of the U.S.
Which NATO members are falling short on military spending?
The AGREEMENT of 27 NATO members is that they would spend 2% or more on their OWN defense .

What is your problem?

My problem is that for far too many people like you they see that we spend more money on defense than any other nation on the planet, more than the next 7 combined, and your response is not "holy fuck why do we spend so much" it is "those deadbeats should spend more".

My problem is that people like you call it "defense" spending when the vast majority of what we do with our military has little to do with defense.

Has it ever even once enterd that little sheep mind of yours that perhaps the issue is not the rest of the world, but our own spending?

Do these NATO countries spend money on their troops stationed in countries as the USA does as a member of NATO to defend these countries as best illustrated as
to their % of GDP being spent on defense.

By the way are you such a Trump hater you put that first rather than the USA interest? I mean what is SO wrong with Trump raising issues like this?
You and others like you malign Trump for larger military expenditures and when he asks NATO to share a bigger load... you attack Trump? That makes no sense!

You are barking up the wrong tree here, I am the guy that for as long as I have been on this forum have advocated pulling our troops, at least half if not more, out of Europe and stationing them on our southern border to actually defend this country for a change.

We do not under spend on our military, it is not underfunded, it is misused.

Unfortunately, Trump is probably not the guy for the job, but reevaluating just what we are trying to do with defense spending is overdue. Bannon was his strategist, but Bannon is more or less a white supremacist bomb thrower, so people like the Mercers and Mellon Scafides have no use for him either. Still, Trump even at age 73 saw the question

On the left ... yeah Pelosi and Shumer .... that's the ticket. Bernie Sanders is the intellectual giant and motivator of new thinking!\

Putin is unique in that he's the only threat still viewing the world as did Stalin in creating an economic empire contained by military and not by consent of people.

But do we need the Ford Class to keep open trade with China? Trump's policy towards Iran is NOT to trade with them. Meanwhile Germany and China are working a deal to trade and stay outside US banking sanctions. If THAT doesn't give you a sphinter check, you're brain dead.

Merkel is doing a gas deal with Putin to tie their economies together. Not totally diferent than we did with the Saudis ... and Carter and Reagan were both in on it.

Economies that are tied together are much less likely to go to war with each other, something neither Trump nor his sheep understand

You've got to be kidding! Germany's ECONOMY depends on the oil and gas coming from Russia! Russia doesn't need Germany's money!

This map shows Europe’s dependence on Russian gas

 

[Siete]

Trumps bashing NATO and on his way to go blow Putin.

stay tuned

 

[healthmyths]

Many European members -- including big economies like France and Germany -- spend less than the amount called for by NATO guidelines.

The U.S. shells out far more money on defense than any other nation on the planet.

According to NATO statistics, the U.S. spent an estimated $650 billion on defense last year.
That's more than double the amount all the other 27 NATO countries spent between them, even though their combined GDP tops that of the U.S.
Which NATO members are falling short on military spending?
The AGREEMENT of 27 NATO members is that they would spend 2% or more on their OWN defense .

What is your problem?

My problem is that for far too many people like you they see that we spend more money on defense than any other nation on the planet, more than the next 7 combined, and your response is not "holy fuck why do we spend so much" it is "those deadbeats should spend more".

My problem is that people like you call it "defense" spending when the vast majority of what we do with our military has little to do with defense.

Has it ever even once enterd that little sheep mind of yours that perhaps the issue is not the rest of the world, but our own spending?

Do these NATO countries spend money on their troops stationed in countries as the USA does as a member of NATO to defend these countries as best illustrated as
to their % of GDP being spent on defense.

By the way are you such a Trump hater you put that first rather than the USA interest? I mean what is SO wrong with Trump raising issues like this?
You and others like you malign Trump for larger military expenditures and when he asks NATO to share a bigger load... you attack Trump? That makes no sense!

You are barking up the wrong tree here, I am the guy that for as long as I have been on this forum have advocated pulling our troops, at least half if not more, out of Europe and stationing them on our southern border to actually defend this country for a change.

We do not under spend on our military, it is not underfunded, it is misused.

Unfortunately, Trump is probably not the guy for the job, but reevaluating just what we are trying to do with defense spending is overdue. Bannon was his strategist, but Bannon is more or less a white supremacist bomb thrower, so people like the Mercers and Mellon Scafides have no use for him either. Still, Trump even at age 73 saw the question

On the left ... yeah Pelosi and Shumer .... that's the ticket. Bernie Sanders is the intellectual giant and motivator of new thinking!\

Putin is unique in that he's the only threat still viewing the world as did Stalin in creating an economic empire contained by military and not by consent of people.

But do we need the Ford Class to keep open trade with China? Trump's policy towards Iran is NOT to trade with them. Meanwhile Germany and China are working a deal to trade and stay outside US banking sanctions. If THAT doesn't give you a sphinter check, you're brain dead.

Merkel is doing a gas deal with Putin to tie their economies together. Not totally diferent than we did with the Saudis ... and Carter and Reagan were both in on it.

MAJOR difference between Germany/Russia deal:
Russia once owned half of Germany remember?
Vladimir Putin Just Gave Ex-German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder A Plum Oil Job
Rosneft isn’t just any oil company: It’s the largest publicly-listed oil producer, by volume, in the world, controlled by the Russian state. Since 2014, it’s been under U.S. and European sanctions, the idea being that sanctions will stop Rosneft from investing and growing its influence any further. (Actually, if anything, the reverse is true—the company escaped any consequences for triggering a banking crisis in Russia at the end of 2014 with its foreign debt repayments, and it has since swallowed Bashneft, one of the last remaining oil producers of size outside of its empire.)
Vladimir Putin Just Gave Ex-German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder A Plum Oil Job

Now the differences between Saudis and USA...

Do the Saudis have any armies and military capable of attacking the USA?
More importantly GUESS who now is the largest producer of oil and gas?
U.S. Is Set to Become World’s Top Oil Producer, Government Says
“In 2019, EIA forecasts that the United States will average nearly 12 million barrels of crude oil production per day,” said Linda Capuano, Administrator of the EIA. “If the forecast holds, that would make the U.S. the world’s leading producer of crude.”
U.S. Is Set to Become World’s Top Oil Producer, Government Says

 

[Dschrute3]

Trumps bashing NATO and on his way to go blow Putin.

stay tuned

He's bashing European Nations that have been very stingy when it comes to NATO. Why should US Taxpayers carry such a burden? I mean, they rebuilt Europe after the War. Haven't they done enough for Europe? This is why i firmly support disbanding NATO. US Taxpayers need a much-earned break. Europe can defend itself at this point. Time to move on.

 

[Tom Horn]

Trumps bashing NATO and on his way to go blow Putin.

stay tuned

 

[Dschrute3]

More folks need to start asking the question, why do we still need NATO? The EU is made up of very wealthy Nuclear Power Nations. I would say Europe is very capable of defending itself at this point. I think it's time we bring all that US Taxpayer cash back home. End NATO.

 

[Edgetho]

Economies that are tied together are much less likely to go to war with each other, something neither Trump nor his sheep understand

In the entire history of the world, no two democracies have ever warred against each other.

The first democracy was formed over 2,400 years ago.

But dimocrap scum, the FILTHIEST, scummiest, most disgusting political party to ever infest the Planet's surface. just went full-tilt socialist on us.

The same exact political philosophy that murdered over 100 Million People in the last Century

 

[nat4900]

First, let us be aware that if ALL 30 countries within NATO were to meet the 2% of their respective GDP toward armaments, the $700 BILLION that the U.S. spends on the Pentagon would not go down by even ONE dollar............The $700 billion expense is our "choice"...or at least the choice forced upon us by the military complex.

The above stated, the other FACT is that all NATO countries are required to PAY a formulated amount toward the NATO coffers........and EVERY ONE of the countries in the pact is fulfilling THAT requirement.......not one of the countries is behind in that PAYMENT.

What the fool-in-chief is ranting about, is that most of the NATO countries are not SPENDING as much as Trump would like for them to spend on armaments (bearing in mind that most of that potential expenditure would go to American weapon manufacturers.)

Again, if ALL those NATO countries were to SPEND 2% of their GDP in further armaments, we would not be saving a dime.....and probably those NATO countries would not be a heck of a lot "safer."........The MAIN loser in the current scenario are the U.S. armaments' lobbyists whose job is to ensure that NATO buy more American weapons of war.

 

[Tom Horn]

More folks need to start asking the question, why do we still need NATO? The EU is made up of very wealthy Nuclear Power Nations. I would say Europe is very capable of defending itself at this point. I think it's time we bring all that US Taxpayer cash back home. End NATO.

Poland is the only one who's paying the agreed 2% of GDP on defense and in the most danger from Russia....I say we yank our boys out of Germany and put half of them in Poland....Putin would SHIT himself if we did that.

 

[Dschrute3]

More folks need to start asking the question, why do we still need NATO? The EU is made up of very wealthy Nuclear Power Nations. I would say Europe is very capable of defending itself at this point. I think it's time we bring all that US Taxpayer cash back home. End NATO.

Poland is the only one who's paying the agreed 2% of GDP on defense and in the most danger from Russia....I say we yank our boys out of Germany and put half of them in Poland....Putin would SHIT himself if we did that.

Very wealthy Nuclear Power nations now exist in Europe. They can defend themselves properly. US Taxpayers rebuilt Europe after the War. They've done enough over there. Time to end NATO and move on.

 

[bodecea]

Trumps bashing NATO and on his way to go blow Putin.

stay tuned

Nice photoshop...he was eating a taco salad....more in line with him being a fucking moron.

 

[buckeye45_73]

What a GLORIOUS beginning the NATO meetings are off to! In what was supposed to be a most "civilized" setting, Trump has gone GONZO laying into these sissies like a whirling dervish. Their mouths fell open when he told them he's seen enough foot-dragging, playing Uncle Sam for a sucker, and doing business with the Ivans while we protect them from the Ivans. This isn't a euro-loving fool like Barry and he's not obliged to beg them for help in the ME anymore. Now it's time to balance the books, which they can more than afford to do. Merkel got all miffed trying to head-fake the German people that her crazy immigration problems aren't as important as Trump trashing her pittance military spending. These limp-wrists will either pay up and quick or face the Russians alone and it starts with yanking our troops out of Germany...Trump is PISSED and not taking anything but YES for an answer this time.

#MAAA! Make America Alone Again

BTW...love your fake wrestling attachment.

Doing the right thing ruffles feathers, that why people lie, they can't handle the truth.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Trumps bashing NATO and on his way to go blow Putin.

stay tuned

Nice photoshop...he was eating a taco salad....more in line with him being a fucking moron.

WOW we all thought it was real!!!
Way to go super sleuth!!!!