Why everyone should stand for the national anthem

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Find out why disrespecting the American flag is so controversial


The American flag represents the most free nation in the history of the world and that alone should be something to stand for.

Joy Villa breaks down how the NFL’s kneeling controversy has been misguided, misdirected, and all-around ungrateful.




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Joy is always right on the money she is a great singer and so pretty it's great to see some people still get what respect is. Looked beautiful during the grammy awards.

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Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.
 
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Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.

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Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.




 
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Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.


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Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.





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Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.


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So anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a commie and an avid CNN viewer? Lol
 
Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.


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So anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a commie and an avid CNN viewer? Lol







 
Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.


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So anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a commie and an avid CNN viewer? Lol








You’re the one replying to my post with memes, yet I am the dumb one?
 
Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.


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So anyone who doesn’t agree with you is a commie and an avid CNN viewer? Lol








You’re the one replying to my post with memes, yet I am the dumb one?
Then you understand the memes? Good!
 
Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.

You're right about that: We're not a dictatorship where high-paid sports figures and personality cults use media resources to tell us how we're supposed to feel. Just as they're free to make total asses out of themselves, I'm free to change the channel or refuse to support them with my wallet.

You're very misguided on the second point too: This is the most free and most exemplary nation that ever existed. While other countries were based on hundreds of years of oppression, war, religious persecution, excess taxes, serfdom, tyranny, and subjugation of their citizens, America is the one country where people came to escape all those things. And if you truly feel that you're not free here, you're always welcome to go live in another country. Try that in Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China, or North Korea.

I seriously have trouble believing that those poor "kneelers" are really concerned about "oppression". Those rich 1-percenters seem to be doing pretty well for themselves, do you really think they care about you? If they really were so concerned, why aren't they doing anything, besides making a laughingstock out of themselves and a farce out our national sport, I mean? What kind of charitable things have they done? There's all kinds of slave-trading going on today in Northern Africa, but we don't hear anything from those idiot "kneelers", do we?

What a bunch of phonies. Big, fat, second-rate phonies.
 
Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.

You're right about that: We're not a dictatorship where high-paid sports figures and personality cults use media resources to tell us how we're supposed to feel. Just as they're free to make total asses out of themselves, I'm free to change the channel or refuse to support them with my wallet.

You're very misguided on the second point too: This is the most free and most exemplary nation that ever existed. While other countries were based on hundreds of years of oppression, war, religious persecution, excess taxes, serfdom, tyranny, and subjugation of their citizens, America is the one country where people came to escape all those things. And if you truly feel that you're not free here, you're always welcome to go live in another country. Try that in Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China, or North Korea.

I seriously have trouble believing that those poor "kneelers" are really concerned about "oppression". Those rich 1-percenters seem to be doing pretty well for themselves, do you really think they care about you? If they really were so concerned, why aren't they doing anything, besides making a laughingstock out of themselves and a farce out our national sport, I mean? What kind of charitable things have they done? There's all kinds of slave-trading going on today in Northern Africa, but we don't hear anything from those idiot "kneelers", do we?

What a bunch of phonies. Big, fat, second-rate phonies.
AKA...Black people who make money shouldn't offend my sense of right and wrong...
 
Firstly we are not a dictatorship where people have to devote themselves to the flag or country. Authoritarian regimes do that. It should not matter if someone stands or sits for the national anthem.

Secondly, we aren’t the most free nation in the world. Perhaps that was true in 1917, but not in 2017. But most Americans believe that because they’ve never stepped foot outside of North America.

Last, you cannot expect a group of individuals to celebrate a nation that has oppressed them for hundreds of year. Some black people do stand for the flag and others choose not. The ones who choose not to have a damn good reason for doing so.

You're right about that: We're not a dictatorship where high-paid sports figures and personality cults use media resources to tell us how we're supposed to feel. Just as they're free to make total asses out of themselves, I'm free to change the channel or refuse to support them with my wallet.

You're very misguided on the second point too: This is the most free and most exemplary nation that ever existed. While other countries were based on hundreds of years of oppression, war, religious persecution, excess taxes, serfdom, tyranny, and subjugation of their citizens, America is the one country where people came to escape all those things. And if you truly feel that you're not free here, you're always welcome to go live in another country. Try that in Venezuela, Cuba, Russia, China, or North Korea.

I seriously have trouble believing that those poor "kneelers" are really concerned about "oppression". Those rich 1-percenters seem to be doing pretty well for themselves, do you really think they care about you? If they really were so concerned, why aren't they doing anything, besides making a laughingstock out of themselves and a farce out our national sport, I mean? What kind of charitable things have they done? There's all kinds of slave-trading going on today in Northern Africa, but we don't hear anything from those idiot "kneelers", do we?

What a bunch of phonies. Big, fat, second-rate phonies.

Like I said in 1917 America was the country with the most freedoms in the world. This is 2017. Other countries have not oh you caught up, but they have surpassed us.

As for your last point, you're basically saying the 1 percent is incapable of empathizing with the everyday people. Which isn't true. Especially since many of those football players came from poverty.

Also the right always claims Trump is looking for the working class. Trump was born into a wealthy family. So does that mean he does not give a shit about the American people because he comes from a wealthy family?
 
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Like I said in 1917 America was the country with the most freedoms in the world.
Absolutely. The Cracker states were free to enforce Jim Crow laws, for example. Can't get much freer than that.

But as to the topic, if one will not stand for the anthem when alone watching tv, it's completely hypocritical to insist others stand for it on arbitrary occasions.
 
Find out why disrespecting the American flag is so controversial


The American flag represents the most free nation in the history of the world and that alone should be something to stand for.

Joy Villa breaks down how the NFL’s kneeling controversy has been misguided, misdirected, and all-around ungrateful.




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Joy is always right on the money she is a great singer and so pretty it's great to see some people still get what respect is. Looked beautiful during the grammy awards.

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Why no one should be required to stand for the national anthem:

One of the most important and fundamental values of this country is free speech. If you love the values on which this country was founded and has suceeded so well for so long, then you graciously allow everyone their free speech. The idea that everyone has to stand for the national anthem is a perfect example of the authoritarian approach to controling society that the ringwingers believe in and why they voted for the authoritarian president we now have.
 
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Find out why disrespecting the American flag is so controversial


The American flag represents the most free nation in the history of the world and that alone should be something to stand for.

Joy Villa breaks down how the NFL’s kneeling controversy has been misguided, misdirected, and all-around ungrateful.




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Joy is always right on the money she is a great singer and so pretty it's great to see some people still get what respect is. Looked beautiful during the grammy awards.

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"The American flag represents the most free nation in the history of the world ..."
And that includes free speech, whether you agree with what they are saying or not. Respect and value your country by respecting the right to free speech.
 
People who have an issue with the kneelers do not know what the flag stands for and I'd like to say they do not know what the kneelers are kneeling for, but I suspect they do, they just want to bitch.
 
People who have an issue with the kneelers do not know what the flag stands for and I'd like to say they do not know what the kneelers are kneeling for, but I suspect they do, they just want to bitch.
These extreme rightwingers only believe in free speech for themselves and what they think, not for anyone else.
 
Try that kneeling stunt in any other country in the world and you'll be lucky if you aren't fined, jailed or killed. I just saw a clip where the bastards stood during the Mexican national anthem and groveled during ours. American TV didn't play sound of the event but Mexican TV did and the Mexican fans loudly booed the dishonorable display. Free "speech" my butt.
 

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