Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?

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    Why does God hate babies who have not sinned?

    Scriptures indicate that God knows that babies in the womb have not done anything good or evil. They also indicate that God hates some babies even while in the womb and innocent. It is also said that God creates us and our characters. Our characters, as we evolve, cannot help but do evil. God then is responsible for the evil that we will do as he has created our natures. Natures that we cannot help but follow.

    We can blame our free will and the choices we make for the evil that we do but this does not explain why our God created natures decide to do evil. Theistic evolutionists try to explain this paradox but the average literalist or fundamental Christian does not follow their reasoning.

    We have no choice and no free will to deviate from our God given sin nature and God would know this as it is was all planned. Jesus was to die even before man was created. That is why Adam’s sin is called a necessary sin.

    If we have no choice in following our sin natures, and cannot deviate from our part in God’s plan, then what is God’s reason for punishing us for being exactly what he created and programmed us to do?

    That is why Adam’s sin is called a necessary sin. He could not help but sin and neither can any of us. You cannot help but do evil and thus sin.

    This is all rather abstract so if you like I will imagine a viable scenario for us to work with. We all know that many are starving to death in various countries. Imagine one of these starving children walking past a farmer’s apple tree. The child knows that if he steals the apples that the farmer’s family will starve to death. He or she has a choice of either stealing apples to prevent their death or not. The survival instinct being our first instinct, I think apples will be eaten.

    That child’s God given nature will choose life, as all natures do by default, and eat an apple. Does that child deserve hell when it’s God given nature drove it to sin?

    We cannot do anything but follow our basic God given natures. Do we deserve hell for doing so?

    Is God’s punishment unjust?

    If sin was required for Jesus to manifest, Adam had to sin. Would his punishment and death have also been unjust?

    Did God, knowing Adam would be a sinner and cause God’s/Jesus’ death, hate Adam as well when he was creating him?

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    DL

    This clip explains theistic evolution and how you cannot help but do evil and sin.

    Walking by sight, not by faith - YouTube
     
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    Hey--you are just trolling now, aren't you?

    I think I will sit back and watch. I might finally learn what an electronic lynchmob is!!
     
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    So God "hates" them so much that He has ensured their salvation....?
     
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    Trolling is not my bag.
    That link should have shown you how interesting this topic could be if theists do not get scared off by the complexity of the issue.

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    Because babies are born atheists.

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    Doesnt sound like someone who hates babies to me.
     
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    Islam assumes that God hates but God forgives.
     
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    I can. That one little heathen is mooning the rest.

    Now that is evil incarnate. :eusa_whistle:

    Right? He is going to hell for sure. He is likely a Christian friendly flag black op. :lol::lol:

    That or he is trolling for Gays so that he can curse them to a hotter place in hell.
    Those Christians will suffer anything to uncover those nasty Gays. Even, well, you know.

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    Hardly mainstream that.

    This preacher tells the mainstream.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAO98N9pqK8&feature=related]Why babies go to hell (explanation) - YouTube[/ame]



    Romans 9:11-13
    King James Version (KJV)
    11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)
    12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
    13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.


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    Yes. Their God must hate all Muslims men.

    He even curses them in his so called heaven. All those virgins hanging about and no corporeal dicks to use on them. Eternal frustration. No wonder they prefer dancing boys here on earth. Heaven too from what I hear.

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