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Because that's the oath they swore... I'm not sure if you would understand the concept even if you explained to you.
Actually, most of us did it because we believed in something greater than ourselves, but I doubt you'd understand the concept.
I doubt you'd have last ten minutes doing the job I did in the Army.
citation neededthe answer is not as trivial or obvious as it might seem.
i mean, politicians are addicted to attention, fancy suits and drives, plus powerhungry and (generally speaking) corrupt.
what's wrong with just stating the experience of a life long of watching news as my 'citation'?citation needed
My life experiences are quite different from yourswhat's wrong with just stating the experience of a life long of watching news as my 'citation'?
a citation would just allow you to attack the article/book i mentioned, to narrow down this general discussion to that specific book/article.
that's not what i want to achieve here. i want to compare life experiences.
Anyone who disagrees with this does not know anything about entering into military service and the moral obligations implicit. The fact is, a soldier is legally obliged to disobey any command that he knows to be a violation of the basic laws of the land.In the U.S military, one swears allegiance to the Constitution, not to "'orders".
Sure, people believed in something greater than themselves. It's basic human manipulation, if you give people guns, you better make sure they're not going to figure out what's real.
I also find it funny that you've written things like "I'm not sure you'd understand the concept" and "I doubt you'd have last ten minutes"... telling people they're "the best" is one of the basic concepts of manipulation. Look at the Russians, their elite units were told they were the elite units, and in the Ukraine they didn't last very long, it was all image.
Image is everything, substance is nothing.
In theory, you are absolutely correct.Anyone who disagrees with this does not know anything about entering into military service and the moral obligations implicit. The fact is, a soldier is legally obliged to disobey any command that he knows to be a violation of the basic laws of the land.
Americanism.i don't put much stock in numerology
Weren't you the one who spent a whole thread whining about how the Chinese were going to "Get us All?"
Be glad better men than you are out there defending this country.
The problem in the Ukraine, of course, was the Russian troops didn't want to be there any more than the Ukrainians wanted them there. But they've still managed to grind the war down to a stalemate. Ukraine is only being held afloat because we are pouring more weapons into the place.
"Democratic Republic" Is a Contradiction in Termscitation needed
Links Are Part of a Chain of Commandwhat's wrong with just stating the experience of a life long of watching news as my 'citation'?
a citation would just allow you to attack the article/book i mentioned, to narrow down this general discussion to that specific book/article.
that's not what i want to achieve here. i want to compare life experiences.
Naw, the argument was a lot of paranoia before you blathered into some racist shit about how Asians are "different' than us. Then you ran away like a little chicken shit when Ic called you on it.No, I was probably someone who was making a decent argument, and all you read was "the Chinese are going to get us all"
Yes, someone who defends his country is far better than someone who sits around whining about the country while enjoying the benefits of living here.Are those defending the country better than me? Is going off to an immoral war simply because some politician says so being a "better person"?
No, not really. It's just what the army tells you, pumps it through your head "You're in the army, therefore you must be good, in fact, you're bloody fantastic, and if you die, we'll give you a medal, hows that?"
That's not me saying people in the army are bad, not me saying there aren't better people than me in the army, also not be saying there aren't worse people than me, because 100% sure there are some total and utter fuckheads in the army, it attracts such people because they'd struggle to get a job in the real world.
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What I'm saying is that your indoctrination is obvious.
The problem with Russia is that people don't have a choice. Putin isn't a good person, he's the sort who wants to be remembered for taking land, just like Catherine the Great and other Russian leaders, and, of course, Lenin and Stalin for making the USSR how it was.
Leaders have visions of grandeur and they need armies full of people who will die for them to get that. They don't actually give two rats's asses about those men, they only care that their deaths don't cause them problems. In the US they need to "care", or be seen to be caring, but in Russia, Putin controls the media, so they get what he tells them to get.
Putin doesn't need to manipulate the armed forces as much, because he manipulates the people a lot more in general, and he has an iron fist, don't fight, have PROBLEMOS or however a Russian would say that.
Naw, the argument was a lot of paranoia before you blathered into some racist shit about how Asians are "different' than us. Then you ran away like a little chicken shit when Ic called you on it.
Yes, someone who defends his country is far better than someone who sits around whining about the country while enjoying the benefits of living here.
I met some true fuckheads when I was in the army. Every last one of them was a better person than you are. That you have no sense of honor or duty, but are happy to send off someone else's kid to fight the evil Chinese tells me all we need to know about you.
And quite the contrary, the main reason why the military is having so many problems with numbers is so many people don't qualify even after they lower the standards. Only 23% of young people meet the physical and mental standards required to join.
Only 23% of Americans 17-24 qualify for military service
EL PASO, Texas (KTSM) – New figures from the U.S. Dept. of Defense show that less than a quarter of Americans of prime recruiting age are eligible to serve in the military. The most recent da…
Actually, Putin wants to have Russians in Russia. His overall point wasn't wrong, the Donbass and Crimea are ethnically Russian and SHOULD be part of Russia. The way he went about it was wrong, though.
Again, dummy, every war we have ever gotten into we got into with the full support of the people. Remember after 9/11 when everyone was wearing those flag pins? When a war drags on and on with no resolution, that's when people get tired of it. Even World War II, as much as we romanticize it, people were weary of it by 1945.
Actually, Putin is ordering mobilizations because young people aren't signing up. He's emptying his prisons to meet manpower needs.
Got past the first few words. Can't be bothered with the rest. Bye
Stop being a racist twatnoodle, and I'll stop calling you on it.
Welcome to the ignore list.
