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Seriously,is it Recess time yet? We all definitely need a break from Reid & Pelosi. I think many people are with me on that.
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Well, I pos repped. I agree that the talking points are boring. They add little to the discussion.I don't. I have a low tolerance for stupidity. Especially from those that identify themselves with my own party.
Sorry, I was kidding. My bad. It's my SOP response to the 'shut up' phrase.
At least you didn't neg me. Unlike a couple of others.
I agree. But the point of the thread is to come up with ideas as to why this bill was voted down, specific to this bill. It seemed like an honest question.The Government creates most of the problems and then proposes that they will fix those problems. The cycle never ends. They keep on breaking stuff and then tell us they're gonna fix everything. Less Government is the answer. I'm actually surprised so few see this.
I agree. But the point of the thread is to come up with ideas as to why this bill was voted down, specific to this bill. It seemed like an honest question.The Government creates most of the problems and then proposes that they will fix those problems. The cycle never ends. They keep on breaking stuff and then tell us they're gonna fix everything. Less Government is the answer. I'm actually surprised so few see this.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 3, 2010
CONTACT: Alexa Marrero
or Ryan Murphy
(202) 225-4527
Kline Statement on House Passage of H.R. 4247
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House of Representatives passed H.R. 4247, the Keeping All Students Safe Act. This legislation establishes new federal requirements and limitations for the use of seclusion or restraints in schools and comes in response to a 2009 Government Accountability Office (GAO) analysis of incidents in which students suffered injury or death as a result of abuse of these practices. While there is widespread agreement that states should provide training and guidelines to help school personnel safely use these techniques to protect student safety, the bill has drawn opposition from key school groups for being premature and overly broad.
“There is no doubt that the safety and security of our nation’s students must be priority number one for parents, teachers, and school administrators,” said Rep. John Kline (R-MN), the top Republican on the House Education and Labor Committee. “However, this legislation offers a one-size-fits-all federal solution that may actually make it more difficult for teachers and school leaders to keep our classrooms safe. With this bill, Congress is taking steps to prematurely regulate, at the federal level, issues that have not been fully investigated or reviewed. This is not a prudent course of action.”
Federal regulations under H.R. 4247 would supersede action already taken by 46 states to enact or begin development of seclusion and restraint policies in public schools and extend that regulatory authority to private schools as well. By creating a federal framework for regulating these practices, rather than relying on states and local schools to take the lead, the legislation will result in a two year delay before safeguards are fully implemented. This may cause local administrators to suspend their current efforts and wait for government action.
“It would do a disservice to the safety of our children and their teachers for Congress to hastily take action that either undercuts existing efforts at the local level or delays implementation of state-based reforms. While ignoring the warnings reported by the GAO is not an option, taking action before we have all the facts is equally problematic,” said Kline. “There are dangers to federal overreach, including this bill’s abandonment of longstanding precedent that prevents federal education mandates from being imposed on private schools.”
NOTE: Key education groups have come out in opposition to H.R. 4247, including the American Association of School Administrators, the Council for American Private Education, the National Conference of State Legislatures, and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, among others.
Commitee on Education and Labor, Republicans :: Press Release :: Kline Statement on House Passage of H.R. 4247
There was a time on this board when the merits of this bill and the reasons for its passing would have been debated. Now all we get is Glenn Beck talking points and random conjecture about the evils of the GOP. Sad really.
And dont forget....Sarah Palin, Bush, and the latest target, Scot Brown.
Its getting really hard to debate the left when the special kids on the right are yelling over my shoulder.
Give me a "Do Nothing Congress" over an Over-Reaching Congress anytime. Doing nothing is the right thing in many cases. Too bad the Socialists in both parties can't grasp this concept.
Why did 145 House Republicans vote against this bill?
Why did 145 House Republicans vote against this bill?
I cannot speak for 145 different folks, nor for the Democrats that joined them, but I am glad that they did.
This sort of thing, and its punishments should rightfully fall under the purview of the states, not some new, sweeping national law.
George Bush gave tax cuts to the wealthy, twice, using reconciliation, that cost us 1.8 trillion dollars. 1.8 TRILLION DOLLARS.
Where was the outrage from the republicans then?
George Bush gave tax cuts to the wealthy, twice, using reconciliation, that cost us 1.8 trillion dollars. 1.8 TRILLION DOLLARS.
Where was the outrage from the republicans then?
If you owe $1,000,000. do you ask for a cut in salary?So it costs too much?
Define 'too much'. If you're have $10 in your pocket, and you want to buy something that costs $10.50, do you buy it? No.
I know it is harsh but our national financial situation is so bad that personally, I don't think we should be spending one damned cent. Yea, that would hurt but it is the only way out of the mess that we allowed our government to create.
If you owe $1,000,000. do you ask for a cut in salary?So it costs too much?
Define 'too much'. If you're have $10 in your pocket, and you want to buy something that costs $10.50, do you buy it? No.
I know it is harsh but our national financial situation is so bad that personally, I don't think we should be spending one damned cent. Yea, that would hurt but it is the only way out of the mess that we allowed our government to create.
That's how Cons figure tax cuts will help the economy. GHW Bush called it VooDoo economics.
Now is not the time to do nothing. Now is the time to do much to reverse current policy. Sitting on our asses letting things continue down the same path is utter stupidity. We must act to increase American manufacturing, we must act to deincentivize outsourcing, we must act to secure our borders, we must act to purge the Fed of waste and corruption, we must act to cut Federal involvement with the States' affair!Give me a "Do Nothing Congress" over an Over-Reaching Congress anytime. Doing nothing is the right thing in many cases. Too bad the Socialists in both parties can't grasp this concept.
I cannot speak for 145 different folks, nor for the Democrats that joined them, but I am glad that they did.Why did 145 House Republicans vote against this bill?
This sort of thing, and its punishments should rightfully fall under the purview of the states, not some new, sweeping national law.