Why did 145 House Republicans vote against this bill?

[CrimsonWhite]

Just send this worst U.S. Congress in history home on an early recess. Haven't they done enough damage? Recess = Peace & Tranquility. I think more & more Americans are agreeing with me on this.

Are you planning on posting on topic today or are you just going to keep making broad generalizations based on your own opinion?

 

[☭proletarian☭]

CW, are you sure that's not a bot?

 

[Foxfyre]

Just send this worst U.S. Congress in history home on an early recess. Haven't they done enough damage? Recess = Peace & Tranquility. I think more & more Americans are agreeing with me on this.

Are you planning on posting on topic today or are you just going to keep making broad generalizations based on your own opinion?

Well, okay, I've been a bit off topic in a way here too. But Libo isn't really off topic when you put into the perspective that most--at least some--of us do not want Congress to do ANYTHING on this kids' safety legislation. It should not have passed the House and it should not now pass the Senate and President Obama should not sign it into law.

There are times when it is far better for Congress to do nothing at all than for Congress to do the wrong thing.

The illustrations being used by some here are to illustrate that truth.

 

[JWBooth]

Why did 145 House Republicans vote against this bill?

I cannot speak for 145 different folks, nor for the Democrats that joined them, but I am glad that they did.

This sort of thing, and its punishments should rightfully fall under the purview of the states, not some new, sweeping national law.

So federal laws against assault should not exist?

No there is no need, nor should there be. Assault is against the law in every state. The national government need only butt out.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why did 145 House Republicans vote against this bill?

I cannot speak for 145 different folks, nor for the Democrats that joined them, but I am glad that they did.

This sort of thing, and its punishments should rightfully fall under the purview of the states, not some new, sweeping national law.

So federal laws against assault should not exist?

What federal law against assault is there?
And I assume you concede that Lopez limited the Federal role in education in a way that would make this legislation unconstitutional.

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

George Bush gave tax cuts to the wealthy, twice, using reconciliation, that cost us 1.8 trillion dollars. 1.8 TRILLION DOLLARS.

Where was the outrage from the republicans then?

Oh but that is different, ya know, kinda like a certain "class" has a right to a free ride, which was what that was!

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

I cannot speak for 145 different folks, nor for the Democrats that joined them, but I am glad that they did.

This sort of thing, and its punishments should rightfully fall under the purview of the states, not some new, sweeping national law.

So federal laws against assault should not exist?

No there is no need, nor should there be. Assault is against the law in every state. The national government need only butt out.

Was there NOT recently a case, and a thread on this MB about a teacher mistreating a child for not standing during the "pledge" and then allowing/encouraging other children to harass and humiliate the child even though that behavior --- by teacher and other students --- is specifically against the rules? As per usual, the FedGov steps in when locals refuse or choose not to do the right thing. It puts some big teeth into it.

Local law and all is managed by petty local despots, as a rule!

 

[JWBooth]

Was there NOT recently a case, and a thread on this MB about a teacher mistreating a child for not standing during the "pledge" and then allowing/encouraging other children to harass and humiliate the child even though that behavior --- by teacher and other students --- is specifically against the rules? As per usual, the FedGov steps in when locals refuse or choose not to do the right thing. It puts some big teeth into it.

Local law and all is managed by petty local despots, as a rule!

Why yes, there was. No assault took place, there was an inappropriate response by the teacher which was dealt with locally and well.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
[SIZE=-1]—C. S. Lewis, 1953[/SIZE]

This is the issue of this election: whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them for ourselves.
[SIZE=-1]—Ronald Reagan, 1964[/SIZE]

 

[SFC Ollie]

Give me a "Do Nothing Congress" over an Over-Reaching Congress anytime. Doing nothing is the right thing in many cases. Too bad the Socialists in both parties can't grasp this concept.

Now is not the time to do nothing. Now is the time to do much to reverse current policy. Sitting on our asses letting things continue down the same path is utter stupidity. We must act to increase American manufacturing, we must act to deincentivize outsourcing, we must act to secure our borders, we must act to purge the Fed of waste and corruption, we must act to cut Federal involvement with the States' affair!


To do nothing is to effectively act to continue this destruction of the Republic!

For once you are right, But the few actions being taken are totally ineffective.

 

[Contessa_Sharra]

Was there NOT recently a case, and a thread on this MB about a teacher mistreating a child for not standing during the "pledge" and then allowing/encouraging other children to harass and humiliate the child even though that behavior --- by teacher and other students --- is specifically against the rules? As per usual, the FedGov steps in when locals refuse or choose not to do the right thing. It puts some big teeth into it.

Local law and all is managed by petty local despots, as a rule!

Why yes, there was. No assault took place, there was an inappropriate response by the teacher which was dealt with locally and well.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
[SIZE=-1]—C. S. Lewis, 1953[/SIZE]

This is the issue of this election: whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them for ourselves.
[SIZE=-1]—Ronald Reagan, 1964[/SIZE]

What I highlighted in red so totally describes the ways of the theocratic righty-fundy types trying to take over, on down to our thoughts... I am going to save this one, and thanks for quoting it...

But in their own way, the robber barons are as bad, what with buying government, and judges, and in the 2000 election, the Presidency... I gave up hope then, and think that what little faith I had in what I thought was the US just went away...

 

[Avatar4321]

Because it's unconstitutional, unnecessary, and expensive.

 

[JWBooth]

Was there NOT recently a case, and a thread on this MB about a teacher mistreating a child for not standing during the "pledge" and then allowing/encouraging other children to harass and humiliate the child even though that behavior --- by teacher and other students --- is specifically against the rules? As per usual, the FedGov steps in when locals refuse or choose not to do the right thing. It puts some big teeth into it.

Local law and all is managed by petty local despots, as a rule!

Why yes, there was. No assault took place, there was an inappropriate response by the teacher which was dealt with locally and well.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
[SIZE=-1]—C. S. Lewis, 1953[/SIZE]

This is the issue of this election: whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them for ourselves.
[SIZE=-1]—Ronald Reagan, 1964[/SIZE]

What I highlighted in red so totally describes the ways of the theocratic righty-fundy types trying to take over, on down to our thoughts... I am going to save this one, and thanks for quoting it...

But in their own way, the robber barons are as bad, what with buying government, and judges, and in the 2000 election, the Presidency... I gave up hope then, and think that what little faith I had in what I thought was the US just went away...

So, is having shit just go completely over your head a way of life for you, or is it just the concept of what constitutes despotism that is beyond your grasp?

 

[Si modo]

Why yes, there was. No assault took place, there was an inappropriate response by the teacher which was dealt with locally and well.

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
[SIZE=-1]—C. S. Lewis, 1953[/SIZE]

This is the issue of this election: whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them for ourselves.
[SIZE=-1]—Ronald Reagan, 1964[/SIZE]

What I highlighted in red so totally describes the ways of the theocratic righty-fundy types trying to take over, on down to our thoughts... I am going to save this one, and thanks for quoting it...

But in their own way, the robber barons are as bad, what with buying government, and judges, and in the 2000 election, the Presidency... I gave up hope then, and think that what little faith I had in what I thought was the US just went away...

So, is having shit just go completely over your head is a way of life for you, or is it just the concept of what constitutes despotism that is beyond your grasp?

There are some dim bulbs at USMB.

 

[Foxfyre]

What I highlighted in red so totally describes the ways of the theocratic righty-fundy types trying to take over, on down to our thoughts... I am going to save this one, and thanks for quoting it...

But in their own way, the robber barons are as bad, what with buying government, and judges, and in the 2000 election, the Presidency... I gave up hope then, and think that what little faith I had in what I thought was the US just went away...

So, is having shit just go completely over your head is a way of life for you, or is it just the concept of what constitutes despotism that is beyond your grasp?

There are some dim bulbs at USMB.

Somewhere there is an active thread of the most ironic posts or something like that. I think that might fit in there somewhere.

Anyhow I'm headed for bed. Goodnight friends.

 

[JWBooth]

So, is having shit just go completely over your head is a way of life for you, or is it just the concept of what constitutes despotism that is beyond your grasp?

There are some dim bulbs at USMB.

Somewhere there is an active thread of the most ironic posts or something like that. I think that might fit in there somewhere.

Anyhow I'm headed for bed. Goodnight friends.

It qualifies for something...I'm not sure what.

 

[RadiomanATL]

we must act to cut Federal involvement with the States' affair!

Not very Leninesque of you comrade

 

[The Rabbi]

Because it's unconstitutional, unnecessary, and expensive.

When has that ever stopped the government from doing something??