Why can't people just admit when they are wrong?

[Mojo2]

Talk about wasting an hour.

I know, tell me about it!

 

[saveliberty]

Talk about wasting an hour.

I know, tell me about it!

An hour, one of twenty-four such time increments which make up one complete rotation of the planet.

 

[Mojo2]

Talk about wasting an hour.

I know, tell me about it!

An hour, one of twenty-four such time increments which make up one complete rotation of the planet.

Thanks. But I meant, tell me about, "IT."

 

[Tresha91203]

Talk about wasting an hour.

I know, tell me about it!

An hour, one of twenty-four such time increments which make up one complete rotation of the planet.

Thanks. But I meant, tell me about, "IT."

It is a computer field, networks and servers and motherboards and stuff.

 

[Cav Scout]

This thread

What would Liberals eat US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

bothered me. I don't mean to call out any one poster, so i won't. But in this thread (as well as another thread on the same subject from a week or so ago that I frankly didn't want to search for) there were several posters who just flat out didn't read the guidelines of the program they were griping about, and made wild accusations about the program that simply weren't true.

And what's worse, when you pointed out to them right in the guidelines where it showed they were wrong, they simply and stubbornly refused to type the words " I was wrong"

In the Army, one way to get your ass in a sling is to lie, cover up, deny, or deflect when you make a mistake. Is the civilian world that different? Or is this just an online thing?

CLEARLY there were a few posters in that thread who were wrong, and so I don't want to debate whether they were or not, and I'm not wanting this to be yet another thread about the school lunch program, I'd like to stay focused on my question.

Why don't people admit when they are wrong?

Admitting you are wrong is not near as internet commando like and dramatic.

 

[House]

Why don't people admit when they are wrong?

We have become a terribly narcissistic society, and no group is more narcissistic than partisan ideologues.
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Come now, partisan ideologues are a riot when they're accusing you of being a partisan ideologue simply for disagreeing with their position.

Especially when their counterparts make the same accusation against you.

According to the right, I'm a lefty. According to libs, I'm a conservative.

Labels...?

 

[asterism]

Opinions certainly can be wrong. If those opinions aren't founded on facts.

For example, one poster was adamant that "football players couldn't be fed 3,000 calories a day"

That is DEMONSTRABLY incorrect, and in fact the program guidelines themselves say that a school may feed a student whatever they like above and beyond the OVC guidelines, but those foods won't be eligible for reimbursement. I showed this poster EXACTLY where in the documentation where it said it, and instead of doing like you did with the WIC thing and saying "hey okay I was wrong on that one" this poster just doubled down and started calling me names for PROVING that she was wrong.

That is the sort of thing I am referring to.

Some people are blind idealists and this board is the most sophisticated level of political discourse they've ever had. You're dealing with very ignorant people sometimes.

 

[asterism]

It seems as though for many, the anonymity leads them to act more aggressively , which would include aggressively defending their positions no matter that they have thoroughly refuted.

I mean to me, I don't see the big deal. obviously no one could be an expert on every single subject. Mistakes happen.

Of course that leads to another thing, people on here tend to think they know it all, and if someone doesn't know something they are like "hahahahahhaha you dumb fuck you didn't know the GDP of Turkmanistan in 2008?" like a bunch of dorks, which leads people to just get even more defensive and protective of their opinions which are based on untrue facts that they refuse to let go of.

Please don't take this constructive criticism the wrong way.

If this is a new thing to you or if this phenomenon confounds you, you've got a lot to learn. I'm pretty sure that you didn't spend a whole lot of time in an environment like this before taking terminal leave and now you're getting a feel for the dynamic, so it's completely understandable.

Spend more time reading and less time posting if you really want an answer to the question you posed in the OP.

 

[House]

 

[Rikurzhen]

For some people....message boards are a form of competition. That, coupled with very poor social skills leads to intransigence.

I'm sure the anonymity doesn't help any either.

I find that to be odd. The anonymity leads me to be more forthcoming and makes it easier to admit a mistake. But....for some....the opposite seems true.

I mean to me, I don't see the big deal. obviously no one could be an expert on every single subject. Mistakes happen.

Actually they could, with one qualifier you don't mention. Someone could be an expert on every single subject he engages in. What that presents is a distorted picture for you don't see that person reading silently in threads where he is not an expert and learning from those who do know what they're talking about. All that one would see is engagement on topics where this person is an expert and has the attitude of self-assurance.

Of course the above depends on the person having the discipline to refrain from commenting on topics he doesn't know anything about.

 

[Cav Scout]

I am an expert in some subjects...

In some others not so much...

So when I find I am not, I stay in a Holiday inn express.

Then I am qualified.

 

[Yarddog]

This thread

What would Liberals eat US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

bothered me. I don't mean to call out any one poster, so i won't. But in this thread (as well as another thread on the same subject from a week or so ago that I frankly didn't want to search for) there were several posters who just flat out didn't read the guidelines of the program they were griping about, and made wild accusations about the program that simply weren't true.

And what's worse, when you pointed out to them right in the guidelines where it showed they were wrong, they simply and stubbornly refused to type the words " I was wrong"

In the Army, one way to get your ass in a sling is to lie, cover up, deny, or deflect when you make a mistake. Is the civilian world that different? Or is this just an online thing?

CLEARLY there were a few posters in that thread who were wrong, and so I don't want to debate whether they were or not, and I'm not wanting this to be yet another thread about the school lunch program, I'd like to stay focused on my question.

Why don't people admit when they are wrong?

OK, Ill be the first to admit Im wrong, the whole giant mouse powered hamster wheel to generate power thing ...... was a really bad idea.

 

[midcan5]

This is a funny thread. Ever catch a child doing something wrong and then bring it to their attention? Even caught in the act the child will deny reality. As we age, some mature and some don't, the reply then becomes a rationalization. We learn excuses. Is this that weird thing called human nature and if so why.

"Reasoning is generally seen as a means to improve knowledge and make better decisions. However, much evidence shows that reasoning often leads to epistemic distortions and poor decisions. This suggests that the function of reasoning should be rethought. Our hypothesis is that the function of reasoning is argumentative. It is to devise and evaluate arguments intended to persuade. Reasoning so conceived is adaptive given the exceptional dependence of humans on communication and their vulnerability to misinformation." Why Do Humans Reason Arguments for an Argumentative Theory by Hugo Mercier Dan Sperber SSRN

 

[saveliberty]

Admitting you are wrong is not near as internet commando like and dramatic.

Hey! No going commando.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

It seems as though for many, the anonymity leads them to act more aggressively , which would include aggressively defending their positions no matter that they have thoroughly refuted.

I mean to me, I don't see the big deal. obviously no one could be an expert on every single subject. Mistakes happen.

Of course that leads to another thing, people on here tend to think they know it all, and if someone doesn't know something they are like "hahahahahhaha you dumb fuck you didn't know the GDP of Turkmanistan in 2008?" like a bunch of dorks, which leads people to just get even more defensive and protective of their opinions which are based on untrue facts that they refuse to let go of.

Please don't take this constructive criticism the wrong way.

If this is a new thing to you or if this phenomenon confounds you, you've got a lot to learn. I'm pretty sure that you didn't spend a whole lot of time in an environment like this before taking terminal leave and now you're getting a feel for the dynamic, so it's completely understandable.

Spend more time reading and less time posting if you really want an answer to the question you posed in the OP.

i readily admit, the behavior on this board by many confounds me.

I had someone insult my children , whom they wouldn't know if they saw them obviously, the other day simply because I proved her wrong on a topic.

Who does that? I mean the conversation went something like this

Other poster "I claim A,B, and C"

Me "Ma'am A,B, and C aren't true, and here is why."

I then posted absolute proof that the other poster was wrong.

Other poster "Oh yeah? well your kids are fat lazy tards"

And I have read plenty of posts, and I frankly don't see many things like that happening. One would hope it is because it is both against the rules and because most people are more decent than that, but I suppose it is possible that if it weren't against the rules more people would do it.

 

[whitehall]

This thread

What would Liberals eat US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

bothered me. I don't mean to call out any one poster, so i won't. But in this thread (as well as another thread on the same subject from a week or so ago that I frankly didn't want to search for) there were several posters who just flat out didn't read the guidelines of the program they were griping about, and made wild accusations about the program that simply weren't true.

And what's worse, when you pointed out to them right in the guidelines where it showed they were wrong, they simply and stubbornly refused to type the words " I was wrong"

In the Army, one way to get your ass in a sling is to lie, cover up, deny, or deflect when you make a mistake. Is the civilian world that different? Or is this just an online thing?

CLEARLY there were a few posters in that thread who were wrong, and so I don't want to debate whether they were or not, and I'm not wanting this to be yet another thread about the school lunch program, I'd like to stay focused on my question.

Why don't people admit when they are wrong?

I wish it was true for the Army. Didn't they used to say "the right way, the wrong way and the Army way"? One of the most celebrated generals in Army history blamed subordinates and refused to admit that he did not adhere to the war plan when he lost his entire Army in the Philippines four months after Pearl Harbor.

 

[MeBelle]

Doesn't matter what anyone's politics are.

People won't admit they're wrong because of stubbornness and ego.

 

[AVG-JOE]

^^ True Story!


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[Mac1958]

Doesn't matter what anyone's politics are.

People won't admit they're wrong because of stubbornness and ego.

Yep.

Narcissism.

.

 

[oldfart]

This is a funny thread. Ever catch a child doing something wrong and then bring it to their attention? Even caught in the act the child will deny reality. As we age, some mature and some don't, the reply then becomes a rationalization. We learn excuses. Is this that weird thing called human nature and if so why.

THE THREE STAGES OF DENIAL

1. "I didn't do it."
2. "You can't prove I did it!"
3. "Grandma!!!"