Why are we here?

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    If God willed us into existence then our existence is contingent upon God and if God is beyond material such that the closest we can come to describing his nature is spirit, then our material existence in and of itself is not the end but a means to an end.
     
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    If God is spirit, then we are a means to an end? What is that supposed to even mean?
     
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    According to my gawd, the flying spaghetti monster, no one knows. Not even him, as he was drunk as fuck during creation.
     
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    It means the precedence isn’t the material. That the material isn’t the reality but a contingent reality.
     
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    You're making a lot of unrelated statements. I asked what your claim that we are a means to an end was supposed to mean. What is it about your belief that God is spirit have to do with our physical existence? Sounds like you are just assigning arbitrary definitions of reality with nothing to justify your definitions.
     
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    I am not attempting to speak for Ding, only making an observation. God is spirit. As such, why didn't he just create mankind in the form of spirit only? Why did God give us a physical existence to experience before we entered into a spirit existence?

    Genesis hints that as God is pure love and goodness, a material existence gives us, His children, an opportunity to choose love and goodness over other qualities. It appears that some of the angels felt that an existence in the sole presence of love and goodness was somewhat lacking.
     
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    At least that is a coherent theory. Even if you accept that a God does exist, there are still a lot of unknowns, and you can't just start spouting crap because it popped into your head, like Ding is doing.
     
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    Big 'if'. Maybe the universe doesn't have 'why', maybe life is a gift given to us like a birthday present we get just for being lucky enough to be born.
     
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    It’s not a good look on you to be an asshole all of the time.
     
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