Dr.Traveler
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The OP said Conservatives are losing, not the GOP. And that's actually the case. The Conservative movement inside the GOP doesn't have a lot of power and hasn't for a while. McCain, Romney, and Trump all had Conservative backed opponents that the easily stomped in the primary. This year we're seeing a lot of Conservatives being targeted by, and losing to, establishment Republicans in the primaries. We've seen that happen in a fair number of high profile races in the last few elections too.You lost on same sex marriage. You lost on healthcare. You lost on gays in the military. You lost on abortion. You lost on tax cuts for the rich.
We won the Senate, we won the House, we won the most governorships. It still blows the OP out of the water.
And yet you got nothing out of it.
Name the last issue that conservatives actually gained on.
Irrelevant.
The issues are now irrelevant?
The fact that conservatives have LOST, for example, pretty much across the board on gay rights,
that's irrelevant?
The OP stated that we were losing. He is wrong and I proved that. You are trying to make the argument into something else.
There are some folks running as Conservatives and winning, but once elected, they do nothing to advance Conservative issues. And on the 4 issues listed, Conservatives have pretty much lost the public debate as measured by public opinion polls.
The question on the table is WHY? I'd hazard the theory that too many Conservatives have listened to or pandered to religious Conservatives on some issues, or special interest lobbies on the others. They've stopped listening to and engaging the common voters and they've lost the debate because of it.