The recent threads about gays and the religious tone of some posts has caused me to ponder how you all would judge the following: There are two men, John and Bob. John is a very decent man. He runs a small business paying his employees above the market rate. He donates to charities in his community and does extensive volunteer work. His widowed mother lives close by - he visits her frequently, does chores for her and runs errands. He has set up trust funds for his nieces and nephews to help with their college education. Bob is not a decent man. He also runs a small business, but unlike John, he is verbally abusive to his employees. The turnover is quite frequent, but he doesn't care. They are all interchangeable to him. He is married with two kids, and equally emotionally abusive to his family. He spends his free time glued to the television or in a sports bar. He is estranged from his parents and siblings. John is an atheist. He is also gay. Bob is a Christian and attends church each Sunday morning. After he hurts people, he feels remorse and begs God for forgiveness. But his behavior never changes. Which of these two do you think God would allow into heaven and why?