White racist lies about South Africa

[frigidweirdo]

Well Nevermind All The Small Stuff
What's Happened To Tens Of Thousands Of Boer Farmers Over The Last 25yrs
And Why Is A Once First World Nation -- Built From Scratch Out Of Nothing
Now Require Foreign Aid For It's Very Existence ??

In A Word ?? --- Mandela

Because they had to give up their slavery.

You can really make a lot of money when you're paying your workers almost nothing. When wages rise for the poorer people, what do you think happens?

 

[frigidweirdo]

No what I mean is that if everyone went and did Revenge attacks on everyone else who might have wronged them at some time, well the planet would be even more fucked up than it already is.

It's time you stopped making excuses and face what whites have done. Then put yourself in the shoes of men and women who watched their kids get raped and murdered, or kids who grew up without parents because they were imprisoned, killed or slaughtered for opposing white minority rule. Maybe if you turn human, you might be able to understand why things like this could piss off those Africans.

"Maybe if you turn human, you might be able to understand why things like this could piss off those Africans."

Blacks are always whining and pissed off about most things, you bizarrely think that WE OWE you something, we OWE you ZERO. Period. Deal with it and move forward, if a Black fails it's NOT the fault of Whitey, Blacks need to be forced to take responsibilty for their own failures, because that's what adults are expected to do, it's called Personal Responsibility, you are in charge AND control of your OWN destiny on this planet, it's ALL down to the INDIVIDUAL and ONLY them.

You owe is trillions and because whiteys laws and policies that denied us opportunities for 3/4ths of this nations history, blacks a have less accumulated wealth and live in higher poverty. Blacks and other nonwhites been able to fully compete for 53 years. At 53 years of white American existence whites were still a colony dependent on Britain. It is whiteys fault. So just shut up and face the music. Whitey wrote the song, so if the tune doesn't sound good, whitey has no one to blame or lecture. So whites are the ones who must be forced to take responsibility for their failures and this nation and it's laws represent that. It's what adults are expected to do. It's called personal responsibility and whites have been given more from the government than any other group. So whitey did not make it on his own. The government provided whitey with GROUP benefits.

^^^^ Take it somewhere else, I'm NOT interested in your horsecrap. NOBODY OWES your ilk ANYTHING. Period.

I'm bringing it here and whites owe us trillions. Period.

Why do they owe black people anything?

Life doesn't work like that.

But certainly there are black people who go through life believing they are owed something, rather than having to work for it.

 

[IM2]

It's time you stopped making excuses and face what whites have done. Then put yourself in the shoes of men and women who watched their kids get raped and murdered, or kids who grew up without parents because they were imprisoned, killed or slaughtered for opposing white minority rule. Maybe if you turn human, you might be able to understand why things like this could piss off those Africans.

"Maybe if you turn human, you might be able to understand why things like this could piss off those Africans."

Blacks are always whining and pissed off about most things, you bizarrely think that WE OWE you something, we OWE you ZERO. Period. Deal with it and move forward, if a Black fails it's NOT the fault of Whitey, Blacks need to be forced to take responsibilty for their own failures, because that's what adults are expected to do, it's called Personal Responsibility, you are in charge AND control of your OWN destiny on this planet, it's ALL down to the INDIVIDUAL and ONLY them.

You owe is trillions and because whiteys laws and policies that denied us opportunities for 3/4ths of this nations history, blacks a have less accumulated wealth and live in higher poverty. Blacks and other nonwhites been able to fully compete for 53 years. At 53 years of white American existence whites were still a colony dependent on Britain. It is whiteys fault. So just shut up and face the music. Whitey wrote the song, so if the tune doesn't sound good, whitey has no one to blame or lecture. So whites are the ones who must be forced to take responsibility for their failures and this nation and it's laws represent that. It's what adults are expected to do. It's called personal responsibility and whites have been given more from the government than any other group. So whitey did not make it on his own. The government provided whitey with GROUP benefits.

^^^^ Take it somewhere else, I'm NOT interested in your horsecrap. NOBODY OWES your ilk ANYTHING. Period.

I'm bringing it here and whites owe us trillions. Period.

Why do they owe black people anything?

Life doesn't work like that.

But certainly there are black people who go through life believing they are owed something, rather than having to work for it.

Certainly there are whites living off what they stole thinking they earned what they stole.

 

[frigidweirdo]

"Maybe if you turn human, you might be able to understand why things like this could piss off those Africans."

Blacks are always whining and pissed off about most things, you bizarrely think that WE OWE you something, we OWE you ZERO. Period. Deal with it and move forward, if a Black fails it's NOT the fault of Whitey, Blacks need to be forced to take responsibilty for their own failures, because that's what adults are expected to do, it's called Personal Responsibility, you are in charge AND control of your OWN destiny on this planet, it's ALL down to the INDIVIDUAL and ONLY them.

You owe is trillions and because whiteys laws and policies that denied us opportunities for 3/4ths of this nations history, blacks a have less accumulated wealth and live in higher poverty. Blacks and other nonwhites been able to fully compete for 53 years. At 53 years of white American existence whites were still a colony dependent on Britain. It is whiteys fault. So just shut up and face the music. Whitey wrote the song, so if the tune doesn't sound good, whitey has no one to blame or lecture. So whites are the ones who must be forced to take responsibility for their failures and this nation and it's laws represent that. It's what adults are expected to do. It's called personal responsibility and whites have been given more from the government than any other group. So whitey did not make it on his own. The government provided whitey with GROUP benefits.

^^^^ Take it somewhere else, I'm NOT interested in your horsecrap. NOBODY OWES your ilk ANYTHING. Period.

I'm bringing it here and whites owe us trillions. Period.

Why do they owe black people anything?

Life doesn't work like that.

But certainly there are black people who go through life believing they are owed something, rather than having to work for it.

Certainly there are whites living off what they stole thinking they earned what they stole.

Stole?

Wait, how do you gain ownership of things?

How did the black people gain ownership of these resources?

By fighting, killing, pillaging, raping, the same as everyone else did.

Get over it.

 

[IM2]

Sounds like the typical white boy lie.

Show It To Be False
Bring Your Proof...

Except For Modern Lesotho
The African Cape Was Uninhabited

You got that from stormfront.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sounds like the typical white boy lie.

Show It To Be False
Bring Your Proof...

Except For Modern Lesotho
The African Cape Was Uninhabited

You got that from stormfront.

Uninhabited?

Wait, I've been there, there were San people there before.

San people - Wikipedia

"in this area, stone tools and rock art paintings date back over 70,000 years and are by far the oldest known art."

"The San or Saan people are members of various Khoisan-speaking indigenous hunter-gatherer people representing the first nation of Southern Africa, whose territories span Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Lesotho[1] and South Africa. "

 

[IM2]

You owe is trillions and because whiteys laws and policies that denied us opportunities for 3/4ths of this nations history, blacks a have less accumulated wealth and live in higher poverty. Blacks and other nonwhites been able to fully compete for 53 years. At 53 years of white American existence whites were still a colony dependent on Britain. It is whiteys fault. So just shut up and face the music. Whitey wrote the song, so if the tune doesn't sound good, whitey has no one to blame or lecture. So whites are the ones who must be forced to take responsibility for their failures and this nation and it's laws represent that. It's what adults are expected to do. It's called personal responsibility and whites have been given more from the government than any other group. So whitey did not make it on his own. The government provided whitey with GROUP benefits.

^^^^ Take it somewhere else, I'm NOT interested in your horsecrap. NOBODY OWES your ilk ANYTHING. Period.

I'm bringing it here and whites owe us trillions. Period.

Why do they owe black people anything?

Life doesn't work like that.

But certainly there are black people who go through life believing they are owed something, rather than having to work for it.

Certainly there are whites living off what they stole thinking they earned what they stole.

Stole?

Wait, how do you gain ownership of things?

How did the black people gain ownership of these resources?

By fighting, killing, pillaging, raping, the same as everyone else did.

Get over it.

Yes whites stole.

I do think that blacks had the right to the resources in their own countries. We do not see blacks deciding they had the right to divvy up European countries to take resources. Sorry but the African record does not show that. Intertribal warfare happened everywhere and white tribes in Europe produced two world wars. Whites stole. Face it. Then you just understand the fact that it will be part of this discussion.

 

[IM2]

Sounds like the typical white boy lie.

Show It To Be False
Bring Your Proof...

Except For Modern Lesotho
The African Cape Was Uninhabited

You got that from stormfront.

Uninhabited?

Wait, I've been there, there were San people there before.

San people - Wikipedia

"in this area, stone tools and rock art paintings date back over 70,000 years and are by far the oldest known art."

"The San or Saan people are members of various Khoisan-speaking indigenous hunter-gatherer people representing the first nation of Southern Africa, whose territories span Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Lesotho[1] and South Africa. "

You enable this with your opinions trying to excuse colonization.

 

[frigidweirdo]

^^^^ Take it somewhere else, I'm NOT interested in your horsecrap. NOBODY OWES your ilk ANYTHING. Period.

I'm bringing it here and whites owe us trillions. Period.

Why do they owe black people anything?

Life doesn't work like that.

But certainly there are black people who go through life believing they are owed something, rather than having to work for it.

Certainly there are whites living off what they stole thinking they earned what they stole.

Stole?

Wait, how do you gain ownership of things?

How did the black people gain ownership of these resources?

By fighting, killing, pillaging, raping, the same as everyone else did.

Get over it.

Yes whites stole.

I do think that blacks had the right to the resources in their own countries. We do not see blacks deciding they had the right to divvy up European countries to take resources. Sorry but the African record does not show that. Intertribal warfare happened everywhere and white tribes in Europe produced two world wars. Whites stole. Face it. Then you just understand the fact that it will be part of this discussion.

But did they steal from people who stole?

Okay, blacks have the right to the resources in their own countries. Which blacks?

Take South Africa. Which blacks in South Africa have the right to the resources?

The San people? The govt officials who siphon off funds for their own Swiss bank accounts? Or the poor people who didn't get to see the wealth under the British, the Dutch, the Apatheid regime or under Mandela and his successors?

South Africa isn't the worst country in the world, rated 71st out of 180 countries on the Corruption Perceptions Index. But certainly they'd not doing too well.

See, African nations aren't doing too well at dealing with corruption. Angola, Sudan and South Sudan, Somalia seem to be right up there. 7 of the 13 countries below 20 on this score (that's really bad) are black African countries.

Hell, in Mozambique the police will try and trap you into giving you them money.

They'll hand over the rights to a mine because they can't be bothered to do it themselves, but know they'll make a lot of money from it, for doing nothing, and they know a lot of that money will end up in their own pockets.

CORRECTS: Former South African president Jacob Zuma to be prosecuted on 16 charges of corruption

Here's Zuma, he's going to be prosecuted for his corruption.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Sounds like the typical white boy lie.

Show It To Be False
Bring Your Proof...

Except For Modern Lesotho
The African Cape Was Uninhabited

You got that from stormfront.

Uninhabited?

Wait, I've been there, there were San people there before.

San people - Wikipedia

"in this area, stone tools and rock art paintings date back over 70,000 years and are by far the oldest known art."

"The San or Saan people are members of various Khoisan-speaking indigenous hunter-gatherer people representing the first nation of Southern Africa, whose territories span Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Lesotho[1] and South Africa. "

You enable this with your opinions trying to excuse colonization.

I'm not trying to "excuse colonization" or colonialism or any of that. Don't try these pathetic tactics on me. Either you want to debate with me, or you want to play silly childish games. You choose.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's this white supremacist bullshit stopped here. Instead it's consistently enabled. We have a thread about back cops supposedly raping white men in South African prisons. It was based on these links:

Boer Genocide: Police-jail rapes of white SA men is a war crime pattern

A site called afrikaner-genocide, a blog.

Black police officers organizing gang rapes of white men in South Africa.

A blog post from a site called conservative headlines, a site that supports the Front Nationale.

French Front National surges after Sarkozy’s move to the left.

and a blog entry from:

This entry was posted on Monday, March 15th, 2010 at 8:58 pm and is filed under South Africa. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.

Considering the history of South Africa here are many things to discuss, yet because of the racists, who complained and the people are supposed to be given responsibility to make this a decent forum enabled this, the conversations must be limited only to how blacks are raping whts in south african jails even if here is no actual poof of it occurring.

If you do a search, you find no instance confirming this and only 2 places on the first page where this is mentioned. Conservative headlines and USMB. A blog post and a discussion forum If his happed there would be a court situation but that did not happen. This is an 8 year old post. In these 8 years since this was posted I can't find anything reported of the legal results of these rapes by south african media, So after 8 years whereby we see no evidence of this happening, no government inquiries of the police department, not investigations held, no individual accounts from hose men who were raped, no pressure from the south african media, nothing, but we are suppose to discuss an incident that probably never happened.

But this did.

Caught On Surveillance: White South African Cop Rapes A Black Girl In Custody!

Cape Town – The bail application of a policeman accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at the Montagu police station was postponed in the local magistrate’s court on Wednesday. Warrant Officer Frederick Soldaat’s lawyer asked that the matter be postponed to October 10 as they were still following up on certain aspects of the case. The 47-year-old officer is accused of raping the girl on August 30, after she was taken to the police station to cool down following an altercation with her parents at home. The Independent Police Investigative Directorate is investigating the matter in South Africa.

Uploaded on September 25th, 2016

Caught On Surveillance: White South African Cop Rapes A Black Girl In Custody! - The Grand Report

What we are seeing here are Afrikaner lies pushed by American white supremacists.

HNP will continue to keep Afrikaner nationalism alive
Die Vryburger

October 26, 2017

HNP will continue to keep Afrikaner nationalism alive | South Africa Today

Herstigte Nasionale Party - Wikipedia

White genocide: How the big lie spread to the US and beyond
Lloyd Gedye 23 Mar 2018 00:00

The spike in advocacy against a so-called “white genocide” in South Africa can be traced to a co-ordinated campaign by right-wing group the Suidlanders to bolster international support for white South Africans.

The group, who describe themselves as “an emergency plan initiative” to prepare a Protestant Christian South African minority for a coming violent revolution, has met various extremist alt-right groups and their influential media contacts in the United States to build up global opposition to the purported persecution of white people in South Africa.

The Suidlanders believe a race war is inevitable and have spent years preparing for it. The group’s membership was first reported to have swelled after the murder of Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging leader Eugène Terre’blanche. Then it was the death of former president Nelson Mandela that was meant to trigger the war.

Although this never transpired, now it is the murder of white farmers that the Suidlanders have seized on as a signal of the seeds of a plan to exterminate white people.

White genocide: How the big lie spread to the US and beyond

The alt-right players
Billy Roper – The Roper Report

On March 9 2017, right-winger Billy Roper published an opinion piece, “Suidlanders (A South African ShieldWall Network)”, on his website, The Roper Report.

In it he says a “white genocide” is taking place in South Africa and praises the Suidlanders for their civil-war contingency planning — which Americans should be doing.

Brad Griffin, Michael Hill and the League of the South

Griffin is the public relations officer for the League of the South (LOS), a right-wing group based in Killen, Alabama. He is also the news editor of Alt-Right.com.

On March 16 last year, Griffin, under his pseudonym Hunter Wallace, published an article on Occidental Dissent.com headlined “URGENT: Suidlanders reach out to Americans to stop South African white genocide”. “They are in the United States on a speaking tour to raise awareness about the rapidly worsening situation for whites in South Africa,” he wrote.

Griffin writes that he is well versed in the white genocide situation in South Africa and, before being contacted by the Suidlanders, had already called for President Donald Trump to intervene.

On March 25, LOS president Michael Hill wrote an article with the headline “The situation in white South Africa”. According to him, the Suidlanders were in the US to secure funds for diesel and other fuels, medicine, water treatment, shelter, communications equipment, women’s and children’s needs, the needs of the elderly, and every other vital necessity for civilian noncombatants.

Henrik Palmgreen and Red Ice TV

On March 31, Roche appeared on Henrik Palmgren’s Red Ice TV, which often hosts Holocaust deniers. Roche claimed on the show that it’s deadlier to be a white farmer in South Africa than it is to be a police officer.

“It’s a fact that the murder of white farmers in South Africa is double the rate of murder of policemen,” he said.

Jared Taylor and American Renaissance

“South African whites prepare for anarchy” was the headline on Jared Taylor’s American Renaissance podcast on March 15 last year .

Simon Roche, the spokesperson for the Suidlanders, who was interviewed for the podcast, told Taylor that the Suidlanders anticipate a “race-based civil war” and states: “When the bubble bursts, it’s going to be quite a messy affair.”

Roche was also a guest speaker at the 15th American Renaissance conference held in July last year, sharing a platform with people such as Peter Brimelow and Richard Spencer, the founders of the right-wing websites Vdare.com and Alt-Right.com respectively.

Alex Jones and InfoWars

Alex Jones, as far as American conspiracy theorists go, has the “most far-reaching influence” in US history.

Both David Knight, who joined InfoWars in 2012, and Jones have featured the Suidlanders on their shows, Real News with David Knight and The Alex Jones Show.

WorldNet News

WorldNet News, the brainchild of Joseph Farah, published nine articles on the subject of “white genocide” or the Suidlanders between March and August 2017.

White genocide: How the big lie spread to the US and beyond

I couldn't create a thread trying to talk to how whites would feel by reversing history because one of those responsible for making this a decent forum claimed I was suggesting a black takeover but this liw about black police raping whites must be discussed or else.

Just a question why are blacks so gay?

 

[IM2]

Sounds like the typical white boy lie.

Show It To Be False
Bring Your Proof...

Except For Modern Lesotho
The African Cape Was Uninhabited

You got that from stormfront.

Uninhabited?

Wait, I've been there, there were San people there before.

San people - Wikipedia

"in this area, stone tools and rock art paintings date back over 70,000 years and are by far the oldest known art."

"The San or Saan people are members of various Khoisan-speaking indigenous hunter-gatherer people representing the first nation of Southern Africa, whose territories span Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Lesotho[1] and South Africa. "

You enable this with your opinions trying to excuse colonization.

I'm not trying to "excuse colonization" or colonialism or any of that. Don't try these pathetic tactics on me. Either you want to debate with me, or you want to play silly childish games. You choose.

But that's what you are doing. Excusing colonization and playing childish games.

It is remarkable that none of those in Britain who talk about African dictatorship and kleptocracy seem aware that Idi Amin came to power in Uganda through British covert action, and that Nigeria's generals were supported and manipulated from 1960 onwards in support of Britain's oil interests. It is amusing, too, to find the Telegraph and the Daily Mail - which just a generation ago supported Ian Smith's Rhodesia and South African apartheid - now so concerned about human rights in Zimbabwe. The tragedy of Mugabe and others is that they learned too well from the British how to govern without real popular consent, and how to make the law serve ruthless private interest. The real appetite of the west for democracy in Africa is less than it seems. We talk about the Congo tragedy without mentioning that it was a British statesman, Alec Douglas-Home, who agreed with the US president in 1960 that Patrice Lumumba, its elected leader, needed to "fall into a river of crocodiles".

Richard Drayton: The wealth of the west was built on Africa's exploitation

When you start off with the standard white argument that emphasizes African corruption as a way to give whites an out and all the dumb ass questions about which blacks, there is no debate until you understand how whites created these problems.

 

[IM2]

It's this white supremacist bullshit stopped here. Instead it's consistently enabled. We have a thread about back cops supposedly raping white men in South African prisons. It was based on these links:

Boer Genocide: Police-jail rapes of white SA men is a war crime pattern

A site called afrikaner-genocide, a blog.

Black police officers organizing gang rapes of white men in South Africa.

A blog post from a site called conservative headlines, a site that supports the Front Nationale.

French Front National surges after Sarkozy’s move to the left.

and a blog entry from:

This entry was posted on Monday, March 15th, 2010 at 8:58 pm and is filed under South Africa. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed.

Considering the history of South Africa here are many things to discuss, yet because of the racists, who complained and the people are supposed to be given responsibility to make this a decent forum enabled this, the conversations must be limited only to how blacks are raping whts in south african jails even if here is no actual poof of it occurring.

If you do a search, you find no instance confirming this and only 2 places on the first page where this is mentioned. Conservative headlines and USMB. A blog post and a discussion forum If his happed there would be a court situation but that did not happen. This is an 8 year old post. In these 8 years since this was posted I can't find anything reported of the legal results of these rapes by south african media, So after 8 years whereby we see no evidence of this happening, no government inquiries of the police department, not investigations held, no individual accounts from hose men who were raped, no pressure from the south african media, nothing, but we are suppose to discuss an incident that probably never happened.

But this did.

Caught On Surveillance: White South African Cop Rapes A Black Girl In Custody!

Cape Town – The bail application of a policeman accused of raping a 15-year-old girl at the Montagu police station was postponed in the local magistrate’s court on Wednesday. Warrant Officer Frederick Soldaat’s lawyer asked that the matter be postponed to October 10 as they were still following up on certain aspects of the case. The 47-year-old officer is accused of raping the girl on August 30, after she was taken to the police station to cool down following an altercation with her parents at home. The Independent Police Investigative Directorate is investigating the matter in South Africa.

Uploaded on September 25th, 2016

Caught On Surveillance: White South African Cop Rapes A Black Girl In Custody! - The Grand Report

What we are seeing here are Afrikaner lies pushed by American white supremacists.

HNP will continue to keep Afrikaner nationalism alive
Die Vryburger

October 26, 2017

HNP will continue to keep Afrikaner nationalism alive | South Africa Today

Herstigte Nasionale Party - Wikipedia

White genocide: How the big lie spread to the US and beyond
Lloyd Gedye 23 Mar 2018 00:00

The spike in advocacy against a so-called “white genocide” in South Africa can be traced to a co-ordinated campaign by right-wing group the Suidlanders to bolster international support for white South Africans.

The group, who describe themselves as “an emergency plan initiative” to prepare a Protestant Christian South African minority for a coming violent revolution, has met various extremist alt-right groups and their influential media contacts in the United States to build up global opposition to the purported persecution of white people in South Africa.

The Suidlanders believe a race war is inevitable and have spent years preparing for it. The group’s membership was first reported to have swelled after the murder of Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging leader Eugène Terre’blanche. Then it was the death of former president Nelson Mandela that was meant to trigger the war.

Although this never transpired, now it is the murder of white farmers that the Suidlanders have seized on as a signal of the seeds of a plan to exterminate white people.

White genocide: How the big lie spread to the US and beyond

The alt-right players
Billy Roper – The Roper Report

On March 9 2017, right-winger Billy Roper published an opinion piece, “Suidlanders (A South African ShieldWall Network)”, on his website, The Roper Report.

In it he says a “white genocide” is taking place in South Africa and praises the Suidlanders for their civil-war contingency planning — which Americans should be doing.

Brad Griffin, Michael Hill and the League of the South

Griffin is the public relations officer for the League of the South (LOS), a right-wing group based in Killen, Alabama. He is also the news editor of Alt-Right.com.

On March 16 last year, Griffin, under his pseudonym Hunter Wallace, published an article on Occidental Dissent.com headlined “URGENT: Suidlanders reach out to Americans to stop South African white genocide”. “They are in the United States on a speaking tour to raise awareness about the rapidly worsening situation for whites in South Africa,” he wrote.

Griffin writes that he is well versed in the white genocide situation in South Africa and, before being contacted by the Suidlanders, had already called for President Donald Trump to intervene.

On March 25, LOS president Michael Hill wrote an article with the headline “The situation in white South Africa”. According to him, the Suidlanders were in the US to secure funds for diesel and other fuels, medicine, water treatment, shelter, communications equipment, women’s and children’s needs, the needs of the elderly, and every other vital necessity for civilian noncombatants.

Henrik Palmgreen and Red Ice TV

On March 31, Roche appeared on Henrik Palmgren’s Red Ice TV, which often hosts Holocaust deniers. Roche claimed on the show that it’s deadlier to be a white farmer in South Africa than it is to be a police officer.

“It’s a fact that the murder of white farmers in South Africa is double the rate of murder of policemen,” he said.

Jared Taylor and American Renaissance

“South African whites prepare for anarchy” was the headline on Jared Taylor’s American Renaissance podcast on March 15 last year .

Simon Roche, the spokesperson for the Suidlanders, who was interviewed for the podcast, told Taylor that the Suidlanders anticipate a “race-based civil war” and states: “When the bubble bursts, it’s going to be quite a messy affair.”

Roche was also a guest speaker at the 15th American Renaissance conference held in July last year, sharing a platform with people such as Peter Brimelow and Richard Spencer, the founders of the right-wing websites Vdare.com and Alt-Right.com respectively.

Alex Jones and InfoWars

Alex Jones, as far as American conspiracy theorists go, has the “most far-reaching influence” in US history.

Both David Knight, who joined InfoWars in 2012, and Jones have featured the Suidlanders on their shows, Real News with David Knight and The Alex Jones Show.

WorldNet News

WorldNet News, the brainchild of Joseph Farah, published nine articles on the subject of “white genocide” or the Suidlanders between March and August 2017.

White genocide: How the big lie spread to the US and beyond

I couldn't create a thread trying to talk to how whites would feel by reversing history because one of those responsible for making this a decent forum claimed I was suggesting a black takeover but this liw about black police raping whites must be discussed or else.

Just a question why are blacks so gay?

Go ask the white boys gay blacks are fucking that question.

 

[IM2]

What Life Was Like In South Africa During Apartheid

Michelle Faul,

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — My mother was furious. The operators of the gas station in rural, racist South Africa had taken her money to fill the car, but would not give her the key to the toilets. They were for whites only.

It was the early 1960s, and apartheid was the law of the land.

So my indomitable mum did the only thing she could do: She ordered me and my two sisters to urinate right there, very publicly, in front of the fuel pumps.

We did not disobey, but I started crying — and my sisters bawled, too. We lowered our shorts, but I was so traumatized that I simply could not go.

My widowed mother, Ethel Pillay, had driven us from our home in Zimbabwe, which was then called Rhodesia, to visit family in her native South Africa.

There was racism in Rhodesia, too, but it was nothing like the institutionalized code in South Africa that made blacks subhuman — the system that Nelson Mandela later fought to bring down.

We had been on the road for more than 15 hours that day. We were taking the car because the train ride was difficult for a woman with three children and lots of baggage.

The train also was an uncomfortable ride for blacks: Halfway through the trip, in the middle of the night, they would have to get out of the Rhodesian Railways compartments and transfer to decrepit blacks-only South African carriages.

The car trip presented its own challenges. Hotels catered only to whites, so the drive needed to be nonstop. We also had to carry piles of food and drinks because my mother refused to go to the back door of shops; only whites were allowed inside the stores.

In those days, of course, we didn't say "blacks" and "whites." Black people were called "Africans," we were "colored" to designate our mixed race, and whites were called "Europeans."

Sometimes those lines got blurred. South Africa had a crazy system of deciding your race, including whether the moons of your fingernails were a bit more mauve than white, indicating a hint of black blood. There also was the test of whether a pencil would stay in your hair, indicating it must be of kinky black stock. If the pencil slid through, you could be considered white.

Under such rules of apartheid, Chinese were classified colored despite their straight hair; Japanese were white.

Blacks who wanted to be reclassified as colored also could undergo the pencil test: if it fell out when you shook your head, you could be become colored.

Tens of thousands of people changed their race in this manner. Sometimes it was not voluntary and led to families being forcibly separated — even children from their parents — if one member was deemed not to belong to the same race. It was not unusual, in the colored community, to find siblings ranging in shades from deepest black to fair with blond hair.

I remember the sorrow brought on our family because one of my mother's sisters "played white." When she was in her 90s, my grandmother recounted how her own daughter walked past her in the street, pretending not to know her. But with the pain still stark in her eyes, she told me, "That's what she had to do to make a better life for herself and her children."

Being white meant you got decent health care, your kids could go to school, and you could live where you wanted.

Blacks were corralled into townships, if they could get jobs in the city. If not, their urban shacks often were bulldozed and they were forcibly moved to unproductive "homelands." This was at the heart of the policy of apartheid, or "separateness."

My experience was more the absurd pettiness of apartheid, rather than the brutal, state-sponsored violence used to maintain it.

If you were white, you had access to jobs denied to blacks. The only black professionals were teachers, like my mother; nurses and doctors who could only treat blacks; and lawyers, the profession chosen by Mandela, who once believed he could end apartheid by reasoning and legal argument.

We moved to England from Rhodesia when I was child because my mother fell in love with a white man, Michael Faul, who had come to Rhodesia when he was 2. His mother strenuously objected to the marriage, and for years, she was estranged from her only son until my mother forced him to reconcile.

I remember our ship docking in Southampton. On the train ride to London, seeing whites doing menial work, I exclaimed to my mother: "But those are Europeans — picking up dustbins!" It was so alien.

On subsequent visits to South Africa as a teenager, I had a British passport. That put me in the peculiar position of being an "honorary white" — meaning I could stay in white hotels and, upon showing my passport, go to restaurants, movie theaters and other places reserved for whites. The exception was South Africa's racially segregated beaches.
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To my surprise, I realized that Johannesburg was not made up of dusty, treeless suburbs with poor homes crowded onto small plots overlooked by dumps. White people lived in green neighborhoods with paved roads and sidewalks, in lush homes with gardens, swimming pools and tennis courts.

Black people who worked in those suburbs had to have permission to live in the "boy's quarters" at the bottom of the garden — such approval was stamped into much-hated "passbooks." Or they had to be out of the white suburbs before nightfall.

My mother, now writing her memoirs, recalls racism as something that "children were not taught. ... It seemed to be imbibed unconsciously, and automatically became a part of you."

In Cradock, a South African town in the eastern Cape where she was living when apartheid was legalized in 1948, my English-speaking mother struggled with her studies after new laws sought to entrench white superiority through the Afrikaans language. Once, she was "locked into my classroom to do my topic in history, in a foreign language I could neither read nor write."

Opposition to Afrikaans as "the language of the oppressor" led to the 1976 uprising in Soweto, when police opened fire on 15,000 students marching in a peaceful protest. Images of the state violence published around the world proved a momentous turning point, changing how many perceived apartheid.

When that evil system finally was crushed, we all were in awe of Mandela's insistence on reconciliation and not retribution. It is a tribute to him that today, as he ordained, I and others forgive but do not forget.

EDITOR'S NOTE — Michelle Faul is Chief Africa Correspondent for The Associated Press.

What Life Was Like In South Africa During Apartheid

 

[Wyatt earp]

What Life Was Like In South Africa During Apartheid

Michelle Faul,

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — My mother was furious. The operators of the gas station in rural, racist South Africa had taken her money to fill the car, but would not give her the key to the toilets. They were for whites only.

It was the early 1960s, and apartheid was the law of the land.

So my indomitable mum did the only thing she could do: She ordered me and my two sisters to urinate right there, very publicly, in front of the fuel pumps.

We did not disobey, but I started crying — and my sisters bawled, too. We lowered our shorts, but I was so traumatized that I simply could not go.

My widowed mother, Ethel Pillay, had driven us from our home in Zimbabwe, which was then called Rhodesia, to visit family in her native South Africa.

There was racism in Rhodesia, too, but it was nothing like the institutionalized code in South Africa that made blacks subhuman — the system that Nelson Mandela later fought to bring down.

We had been on the road for more than 15 hours that day. We were taking the car because the train ride was difficult for a woman with three children and lots of baggage.

The train also was an uncomfortable ride for blacks: Halfway through the trip, in the middle of the night, they would have to get out of the Rhodesian Railways compartments and transfer to decrepit blacks-only South African carriages.

The car trip presented its own challenges. Hotels catered only to whites, so the drive needed to be nonstop. We also had to carry piles of food and drinks because my mother refused to go to the back door of shops; only whites were allowed inside the stores.

In those days, of course, we didn't say "blacks" and "whites." Black people were called "Africans," we were "colored" to designate our mixed race, and whites were called "Europeans."

Sometimes those lines got blurred. South Africa had a crazy system of deciding your race, including whether the moons of your fingernails were a bit more mauve than white, indicating a hint of black blood. There also was the test of whether a pencil would stay in your hair, indicating it must be of kinky black stock. If the pencil slid through, you could be considered white.

Under such rules of apartheid, Chinese were classified colored despite their straight hair; Japanese were white.

Blacks who wanted to be reclassified as colored also could undergo the pencil test: if it fell out when you shook your head, you could be become colored.

Tens of thousands of people changed their race in this manner. Sometimes it was not voluntary and led to families being forcibly separated — even children from their parents — if one member was deemed not to belong to the same race. It was not unusual, in the colored community, to find siblings ranging in shades from deepest black to fair with blond hair.

I remember the sorrow brought on our family because one of my mother's sisters "played white." When she was in her 90s, my grandmother recounted how her own daughter walked past her in the street, pretending not to know her. But with the pain still stark in her eyes, she told me, "That's what she had to do to make a better life for herself and her children."

Being white meant you got decent health care, your kids could go to school, and you could live where you wanted.

Blacks were corralled into townships, if they could get jobs in the city. If not, their urban shacks often were bulldozed and they were forcibly moved to unproductive "homelands." This was at the heart of the policy of apartheid, or "separateness."

My experience was more the absurd pettiness of apartheid, rather than the brutal, state-sponsored violence used to maintain it.

If you were white, you had access to jobs denied to blacks. The only black professionals were teachers, like my mother; nurses and doctors who could only treat blacks; and lawyers, the profession chosen by Mandela, who once believed he could end apartheid by reasoning and legal argument.

We moved to England from Rhodesia when I was child because my mother fell in love with a white man, Michael Faul, who had come to Rhodesia when he was 2. His mother strenuously objected to the marriage, and for years, she was estranged from her only son until my mother forced him to reconcile.

I remember our ship docking in Southampton. On the train ride to London, seeing whites doing menial work, I exclaimed to my mother: "But those are Europeans — picking up dustbins!" It was so alien.

On subsequent visits to South Africa as a teenager, I had a British passport. That put me in the peculiar position of being an "honorary white" — meaning I could stay in white hotels and, upon showing my passport, go to restaurants, movie theaters and other places reserved for whites. The exception was South Africa's racially segregated beaches.
Advertisement

To my surprise, I realized that Johannesburg was not made up of dusty, treeless suburbs with poor homes crowded onto small plots overlooked by dumps. White people lived in green neighborhoods with paved roads and sidewalks, in lush homes with gardens, swimming pools and tennis courts.

Black people who worked in those suburbs had to have permission to live in the "boy's quarters" at the bottom of the garden — such approval was stamped into much-hated "passbooks." Or they had to be out of the white suburbs before nightfall.

My mother, now writing her memoirs, recalls racism as something that "children were not taught. ... It seemed to be imbibed unconsciously, and automatically became a part of you."

In Cradock, a South African town in the eastern Cape where she was living when apartheid was legalized in 1948, my English-speaking mother struggled with her studies after new laws sought to entrench white superiority through the Afrikaans language. Once, she was "locked into my classroom to do my topic in history, in a foreign language I could neither read nor write."

Opposition to Afrikaans as "the language of the oppressor" led to the 1976 uprising in Soweto, when police opened fire on 15,000 students marching in a peaceful protest. Images of the state violence published around the world proved a momentous turning point, changing how many perceived apartheid.

When that evil system finally was crushed, we all were in awe of Mandela's insistence on reconciliation and not retribution. It is a tribute to him that today, as he ordained, I and others forgive but do not forget.

EDITOR'S NOTE — Michelle Faul is Chief Africa Correspondent for The Associated Press.

What Life Was Like In South Africa During Apartheid

Fuck you pal I was in south Africa in the 80s , it was a heck of a country, the blacks are destroying it today

 

[Paul Essien]

Fuck you pal I was in south Africa in the 80s , it was a heck of a country, the blacks are destroying it today

Yeah. Your right. It was a heck of country, if you were white.

No white person is African.

South Africa was taken by the white man in blood and it must be returned in blood.

 

[Paul Essien]

^^^^ Nobody wants to waste time reading this horsecrap, you are literally wasting YOUR time, NOBODY gives a shit, the ONLY people who care about this horsecrap are Leftists so I suggest you go to DU where you will have the Audience you crave, they will spend 24/7 telling your ilk how sorry they are for being White.

For those who don't know when white supremacists say "lefties" or "liberals" what they mean is "n*gger lovers"

Me? PROUD TO BE WHITE. WHITE AND PROUD AND NOTHING TO APOLOGISE FOR. Now stick THAT up your filthy buttocks.

OK. Why you proud to be white ?

As for the apology. Since when has IM2 or any black person demanded an apology ?

I can see in the caps and the way you write, that whenever IM2 points out cases of racism, your defences spring right up. Too quickly. You and others get too emotional and take it too personally, more personally than it makes sense.

A black person have touched some nerve.

You will deny it, but deep down you know full well what's going on.

I'm basically putting you on Ignore now? Why? Well because I don't waste time on TOTAL LOSERS like you, you are a one trick pony and you are exceptionally boring.

And this shows how weak you are.

• Less than 22% of the world is white.
• Less than 11% of the world is white and male.
• Less than 2.3% of the world is white, male and speaks English.

Yet they run the BBC, CNN, the New York Times, Harvard, Oxford and Cambridge, Google, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit. They write most of the Hollywood films and Wikipedia articles. They even own BET. English-speaking white men own and run nearly all the main bits of the Global Talking Machine. You have one of the most powerful men in the world - Donald Trump - in the white house and who lets face it, is not the biggest fan of black and non white people, and he is gonna be extremely pro-white.

The white male opinion is rammed down everyone's throats 24-7

And you still complain ?

That IM2's post are such an affront to certain you speaks VOLUMES about the privilege you posses, where even a single small instance of contrary opinions are a threat to u. And causes you to erupt like a hilarious volcano (lol)

 

[IM2]

What Life Was Like In South Africa During Apartheid

Michelle Faul,

JOHANNESBURG (AP) — My mother was furious. The operators of the gas station in rural, racist South Africa had taken her money to fill the car, but would not give her the key to the toilets. They were for whites only.

It was the early 1960s, and apartheid was the law of the land.

So my indomitable mum did the only thing she could do: She ordered me and my two sisters to urinate right there, very publicly, in front of the fuel pumps.

We did not disobey, but I started crying — and my sisters bawled, too. We lowered our shorts, but I was so traumatized that I simply could not go.

My widowed mother, Ethel Pillay, had driven us from our home in Zimbabwe, which was then called Rhodesia, to visit family in her native South Africa.

There was racism in Rhodesia, too, but it was nothing like the institutionalized code in South Africa that made blacks subhuman — the system that Nelson Mandela later fought to bring down.

We had been on the road for more than 15 hours that day. We were taking the car because the train ride was difficult for a woman with three children and lots of baggage.

The train also was an uncomfortable ride for blacks: Halfway through the trip, in the middle of the night, they would have to get out of the Rhodesian Railways compartments and transfer to decrepit blacks-only South African carriages.

The car trip presented its own challenges. Hotels catered only to whites, so the drive needed to be nonstop. We also had to carry piles of food and drinks because my mother refused to go to the back door of shops; only whites were allowed inside the stores.

In those days, of course, we didn't say "blacks" and "whites." Black people were called "Africans," we were "colored" to designate our mixed race, and whites were called "Europeans."

Sometimes those lines got blurred. South Africa had a crazy system of deciding your race, including whether the moons of your fingernails were a bit more mauve than white, indicating a hint of black blood. There also was the test of whether a pencil would stay in your hair, indicating it must be of kinky black stock. If the pencil slid through, you could be considered white.

Under such rules of apartheid, Chinese were classified colored despite their straight hair; Japanese were white.

Blacks who wanted to be reclassified as colored also could undergo the pencil test: if it fell out when you shook your head, you could be become colored.

Tens of thousands of people changed their race in this manner. Sometimes it was not voluntary and led to families being forcibly separated — even children from their parents — if one member was deemed not to belong to the same race. It was not unusual, in the colored community, to find siblings ranging in shades from deepest black to fair with blond hair.

I remember the sorrow brought on our family because one of my mother's sisters "played white." When she was in her 90s, my grandmother recounted how her own daughter walked past her in the street, pretending not to know her. But with the pain still stark in her eyes, she told me, "That's what she had to do to make a better life for herself and her children."

Being white meant you got decent health care, your kids could go to school, and you could live where you wanted.

Blacks were corralled into townships, if they could get jobs in the city. If not, their urban shacks often were bulldozed and they were forcibly moved to unproductive "homelands." This was at the heart of the policy of apartheid, or "separateness."

My experience was more the absurd pettiness of apartheid, rather than the brutal, state-sponsored violence used to maintain it.

If you were white, you had access to jobs denied to blacks. The only black professionals were teachers, like my mother; nurses and doctors who could only treat blacks; and lawyers, the profession chosen by Mandela, who once believed he could end apartheid by reasoning and legal argument.

We moved to England from Rhodesia when I was child because my mother fell in love with a white man, Michael Faul, who had come to Rhodesia when he was 2. His mother strenuously objected to the marriage, and for years, she was estranged from her only son until my mother forced him to reconcile.

I remember our ship docking in Southampton. On the train ride to London, seeing whites doing menial work, I exclaimed to my mother: "But those are Europeans — picking up dustbins!" It was so alien.

On subsequent visits to South Africa as a teenager, I had a British passport. That put me in the peculiar position of being an "honorary white" — meaning I could stay in white hotels and, upon showing my passport, go to restaurants, movie theaters and other places reserved for whites. The exception was South Africa's racially segregated beaches.
Advertisement

To my surprise, I realized that Johannesburg was not made up of dusty, treeless suburbs with poor homes crowded onto small plots overlooked by dumps. White people lived in green neighborhoods with paved roads and sidewalks, in lush homes with gardens, swimming pools and tennis courts.

Black people who worked in those suburbs had to have permission to live in the "boy's quarters" at the bottom of the garden — such approval was stamped into much-hated "passbooks." Or they had to be out of the white suburbs before nightfall.

My mother, now writing her memoirs, recalls racism as something that "children were not taught. ... It seemed to be imbibed unconsciously, and automatically became a part of you."

In Cradock, a South African town in the eastern Cape where she was living when apartheid was legalized in 1948, my English-speaking mother struggled with her studies after new laws sought to entrench white superiority through the Afrikaans language. Once, she was "locked into my classroom to do my topic in history, in a foreign language I could neither read nor write."

Opposition to Afrikaans as "the language of the oppressor" led to the 1976 uprising in Soweto, when police opened fire on 15,000 students marching in a peaceful protest. Images of the state violence published around the world proved a momentous turning point, changing how many perceived apartheid.

When that evil system finally was crushed, we all were in awe of Mandela's insistence on reconciliation and not retribution. It is a tribute to him that today, as he ordained, I and others forgive but do not forget.

EDITOR'S NOTE — Michelle Faul is Chief Africa Correspondent for The Associated Press.

What Life Was Like In South Africa During Apartheid

Fuck you pal I was in south Africa in the 80s , it was a heck of a country, the blacks are destroying it today

Whites destroyed it. And it was destroyed in the 1980's when your white ass was there. It is written that if you live by the sword, you die by it. That law doesn't say that if you are white and live by the sword you get a pass.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Show It To Be False
Bring Your Proof...

Except For Modern Lesotho
The African Cape Was Uninhabited

You got that from stormfront.

Uninhabited?

Wait, I've been there, there were San people there before.

San people - Wikipedia

"in this area, stone tools and rock art paintings date back over 70,000 years and are by far the oldest known art."

"The San or Saan people are members of various Khoisan-speaking indigenous hunter-gatherer people representing the first nation of Southern Africa, whose territories span Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Lesotho[1] and South Africa. "

You enable this with your opinions trying to excuse colonization.

I'm not trying to "excuse colonization" or colonialism or any of that. Don't try these pathetic tactics on me. Either you want to debate with me, or you want to play silly childish games. You choose.

But that's what you are doing. Excusing colonization and playing childish games.

It is remarkable that none of those in Britain who talk about African dictatorship and kleptocracy seem aware that Idi Amin came to power in Uganda through British covert action, and that Nigeria's generals were supported and manipulated from 1960 onwards in support of Britain's oil interests. It is amusing, too, to find the Telegraph and the Daily Mail - which just a generation ago supported Ian Smith's Rhodesia and South African apartheid - now so concerned about human rights in Zimbabwe. The tragedy of Mugabe and others is that they learned too well from the British how to govern without real popular consent, and how to make the law serve ruthless private interest. The real appetite of the west for democracy in Africa is less than it seems. We talk about the Congo tragedy without mentioning that it was a British statesman, Alec Douglas-Home, who agreed with the US president in 1960 that Patrice Lumumba, its elected leader, needed to "fall into a river of crocodiles".

Richard Drayton: The wealth of the west was built on Africa's exploitation

When you start off with the standard white argument that emphasizes African corruption as a way to give whites an out and all the dumb ass questions about which blacks, there is no debate until you understand how whites created these problems.

Well you had your chance for debate. You chose the other route. Boring, but your choice.

Bye.

 

[Paul Essien]

Why do they owe black people anything?

Because no white person is indigenous to Africa.

But certainly there are black people who go through life believing they are owed something, rather than having to work for it.

So you can read black people's minds now ? So you know that blk ppl walk around thinking the world owes us something. Why ? Because you say so. OK. Dude

The San people? The govt officials who siphon off funds for their own Swiss bank accounts?

How do you know about the financial transactions of the people in S.Africa ?

South Africa isn't the worst country in the world, rated 71st out of 180 countries on the Corruption Perceptions Index. But certainly they'd not doing too well.

See, African nations aren't doing too well at dealing with corruption. Angola, Sudan and South Sudan, Somalia seem to be right up there. 7 of the 13 countries below 20 on this score (that's really bad) are black African countries.

Says who ? The white supremacists. See this the thing when you debate white supremacists. You refer to sources and stats from white supremacists and then try and pass them off as neutral.

Hell, in Mozambique the police will try and trap you into giving you them money.

Do you really want to go there dude ? Do you really want to talk about the corruption in the NYPD and all across the USA ?