When the Collapse Comes...

[Mathbud1]

You bring up Katrina. I don't know if you've ever paid any attention to my mentor Dave Ramsey or not but when he talks about investments and these cretins trying to sell you gold and silver, he always points out Katrina.

Gold didn't become the currency of New Orleans during that micro-collapse. Water became almost as precious FWIW

And ammo will bring twice that. An excellent trading item

-Geaux

Its far more likely Mathbud will get cancer than live through an apoocalyptic collapse. It also possible a wall will fall on him DOes he wear a hard hat everywhere?
Gold might have become a currency. We dont know. People needed everything.

Ha ha that's true, though I really really hope not to get cancer or have a wall fall on my head. I have no preparations for a collapse by the way. If a collapse happened tomorrow I'd be caught absolutely unprepared. I don't blame anyone who does prepare though.

 

[polarbear]

Saw this yesterday:

I'm just curious; you preppers out there who insist the world is coming to an end and are arming yourself to wart off the hordes of people coming for you Cocoa Puffs...are you going to tell your neighbor "Go fuck yourself" if they knock on your door?

I'll be nice enough to make some rather prominent portholes in some plywood.......and put up some signs......if you still are stupid enough to knock on my door, your going to have a real, real bad day!!

Plyboard with portholes and some signs?

That`s what they had in Waco when their "days" ended.
And it wasn`t the ones who were knocking on their door that had "a real bad day. "
You think you`ve got more firepower than the NYPD who are sure to knock on your door if you barricade yourself behind some signs that say you`ll shoot anybody who knocks at your door?
Shit, people in New York freak out over anything that looks remotely threatening.
They won`t knock at your door "asking you to help them", they`ll call 911 and when they come for you won`t say "Go ahead and make my day", because you`ll know if you as much as twitch it`ll be the end of your world.
And as "the world collapses" you`ll be behind bars instead of your plywood with portholes.
Naah long before you get to do that kind of stuff you will have been out of a job for a couple of years and will have to live on food stamps in some sort of mass emergency shelter where they don`t let you bring your Dirty Harry gun.
As long as there is money there will be taxes slowly bleeding you dry while inflation and prices for life essentials will go through the roof.
Almost all the guns that people own will wind up in pawn shops along with other valuables that can be cashed in to buy a loaf of bread for a couple of hundred buck$.
And once the economy collapses for real most people around you will opt for extreme left socialism which so far always resulted in a single party dictatorship that promised salvation.
That`s how Hitler usurped to power, so did Stalin, Mao etc etc and each time that was preceded by the kind of collapse that you think you can evade with some dried food and your gun behind some plywood barricades?
The only way to evade that in New York or anywhere in the US, is if you use your gun to shoot yourself !

 

[blackhawk]

it amazes me when republicans feel we liberals feel that we can't survive without a government hand out ... we dems have never relied on government hand out ... what we have said because we are a working government that we should take care of the unfornate when needed ... what makes you think that liberals don't have surviuvakl shelters too ... you seem to have these Ideas that we liberals never prepair for the worst... we are linerals thats what we do ...

You do realize in the post the OP quoted there was not a word in there about Republicans and liberals don't you?

 

[Wildman]

Saw this yesterday:

When the collapse comes, God Willing, I will be ready. And when yhou knock on my door for help , the answer is 'Go fuck yourself'

I'm just curious; you preppers out there who insist the world is coming to an end and are arming yourself to wart off the hordes of people coming for you Cocoa Puffs...are you going to tell your neighbor "Go fuck yourself" if they knock on your door?

wart

HEY Jim..., ya got any wart remover in your hide away ? Miss Cornpone seems to FEEEEEEL you will need it.

on a serious side i do not think Jim meant the end of the world, in my OPINION it's the end our great United States of America as we knew it before Obozo came onto the scene..., meaning, "Coming To America". and if that fucking muslime mulatto community disruptor continue to rules as a king this country is DOOOMED !!

 

[Wildman]

it amazes me when republicans feel we liberals feel that we can't survive without a government hand out ... we dems have never relied on government hand out ... what we have said because we are a working government that we should take care of the unfornate when needed ... what makes you think that liberals don't have surviuvakl shelters too ... you seem to have these Ideas that we liberals never prepair for the worst... we are linerals thats what we do ...

republicans feel, wrong !! Republicans do NOT FEEEEEEEL, they think and believe, i am an Independent Conservative, THINK and BELIEVE is my philosophy

"we dems have never relied on government hand out ..."

this calls for a huge BULLSHIT !! you liberliars say you want the illegals here to vote for and support the demoscum party, are all those kids self supporting ? FUCK NO ! those disease carrying scum get more "bennies" than poor kids right here in his country, and those fucking vermin will get Gvmt. assistance for the rest of their voting life and even after death they will continue to vote for the free handout, i.e., demoRAT party.

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[Politico]

Fun iis the operative word. The world is not going to collapse. But if you are a real prepper (thank you for using the correct term), no one is going to come knocking at my door because they won't have any idea you are one.

Not sure how you'd be able to hide it;

Depending on what hysterical nutjob you listen to..

Gas maybe $20 a gallon. Yet you're still driving your SUV around. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

The critical infrastructure could be attacked wiping out electric and communication lines. Yet your house is illuminated at night. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

Unless you're just going to hunker down and never leave it seems as though the cat will be out of the bag.

You hide it by not telling anyone.

 

[candycorn]

Fun iis the operative word. The world is not going to collapse. But if you are a real prepper (thank you for using the correct term), no one is going to come knocking at my door because they won't have any idea you are one.

Not sure how you'd be able to hide it;

Depending on what hysterical nutjob you listen to..

Gas maybe $20 a gallon. Yet you're still driving your SUV around. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

The critical infrastructure could be attacked wiping out electric and communication lines. Yet your house is illuminated at night. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

Unless you're just going to hunker down and never leave it seems as though the cat will be out of the bag.

You hide it by not telling anyone.

It will be pretty apparent in a short amount of time.

 

[candycorn]

"The collapse" may be paranoid fantasy, but it is a possibility. Possible and not likely. Like cancer. I have insurance for cancer. Having insurance for a collapse is not, then, unreasonable.

Also, a general collapse is not the only reason to be prepared. The Katrina example is an example of a specific disaster that preparation might help with. It may not help if your house is destroyed, but it might help if your house remains intact or you are able to take some of your preparations with you.

You bring up Katrina. I don't know if you've ever paid any attention to my mentor Dave Ramsey or not but when he talks about investments and these cretins trying to sell you gold and silver, he always points out Katrina.

Gold didn't become the currency of New Orleans during that micro-collapse. Water became almost as precious FWIW

And ammo will bring twice that. An excellent trading item

-Geaux

Wouldn't give you a nickel for $10 worth of ammo.

A) Ammo is only necessary when you plan to shoot someone
B) Planning to shoot someone will have the problematic side effect of drawing return fire.
C) The preppers will always be outnumbered by those who didn't prep

 

[candycorn]

hey Candy !! So what if they are elected or appointed Candy. Point is that steps are taken to ensure survival and continuance of government at taxpayer expense no matter the government , are these government people special ??

In fact, yes they are. Continuation of government is the first priority as it should be.

Next question?

As a private commoner [like me] why should I not try to insure my survival for myself and my family. By the way , i'm not arguing that government men and people need to be abandoned . Just saying that gov recognizes that survival plans are needed for continuance .

I never said you shouldn't try to insure your own survival. By regulation by my employer, I have a "go bag" in my trunk at all times. The only time it's not in my trunk is when it is in my office for inspection/updating. I'm the Logistics Section Chief for our internal Incident Command System. I go over and above what is required because I think it's wise to have items that are not included in the list; such as cash, books, crossword puzzles, Leatherman tool, mirrors, a couple of MREs. We're told to be ready for a 72 hour deployment without the authorities having to worry about us. I've looked at the response plan and the annexes specifically state that during a public health crisis, the provider hospitals, clinics, and other entities will not be accommodated up to 72 hours into the crisis. I can't imagine one taking place for that long but I have everything except water in my bag for 3 days. Water is supposed to be at the command posts.

My point is that there is a difference between being prepared to ensure/endure hardship and being prepared to ensure/endure hardship while telling your neighbors to go "fuck themselves" for not being as vigilant as you were.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Fun iis the operative word. The world is not going to collapse. But if you are a real prepper (thank you for using the correct term), no one is going to come knocking at my door because they won't have any idea you are one.

Not sure how you'd be able to hide it;

Depending on what hysterical nutjob you listen to..

Gas maybe $20 a gallon. Yet you're still driving your SUV around. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

The critical infrastructure could be attacked wiping out electric and communication lines. Yet your house is illuminated at night. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

Unless you're just going to hunker down and never leave it seems as though the cat will be out of the bag.

Even if you have prepared, the key is being discreet. I have about 6 months worth but I'm not a prepper...just prepared to help out the family and someone who may be in need.

 

[pismoe]

There are lots of good prepper survival sites all over the internet so there is lots of interest . Some are pretty interesting and some are USA government or USA state government information but the best are just private preppers . Some sites are about urban survival and to me its urban big city survival that would be the worst place to survive a catastrophe .

 

[pismoe]

official USA info --- Home | Ready.gov ---

 

[Siete]

when the world ends and you're all dead, everyone is invited to my house for cocktails, dinner, and a movie.

 

[Vandalshandle]

You bring up Katrina. I don't know if you've ever paid any attention to my mentor Dave Ramsey or not but when he talks about investments and these cretins trying to sell you gold and silver, he always points out Katrina.

Gold didn't become the currency of New Orleans during that micro-collapse. Water became almost as precious FWIW

And ammo will bring twice that. An excellent trading item

-Geaux

Wouldn't give you a nickel for $10 worth of ammo.

A) Ammo is only necessary when you plan to shoot someone
B) Planning to shoot someone will have the problematic side effect of drawing return fire.
C) The preppers will always be outnumbered by those who didn't prep

I lived through Katrina. nobody gave a rat's ass about ammo. They cared about, in this order, water, food, toilet facilities, toilet paper.

 

[Peach]

Fun iis the operative word. The world is not going to collapse. But if you are a real prepper (thank you for using the correct term), no one is going to come knocking at my door because they won't have any idea you are one.

Some are more obvious though.

 

[pismoe]

yeah , people like to brag and showoff what they have and they don't practice privacy . Also , my one example , you can see the people in urban areas that are unprepared as they run to grocery stores after a small earthquake and find the shelves empty [Hollywood cali. on tely] . There were also many problems in Hurricane Katrina as the unprepared sweltered in some sports arena . Course there were some [insensitive] preppers that were ensconced in their well supplied and well protected homes having hurricane parties .

 

[WinterBorn]

Fun iis the operative word. The world is not going to collapse. But if you are a real prepper (thank you for using the correct term), no one is going to come knocking at my door because they won't have any idea you are one.

Therein lies the flaw in prepping, if collapse happens (I don't think it will) it will not be a lone liberal knocking at your door it will be an armed gang and they will have what you have. Better to be mobile than tied to a stockpile.

Anyone wanting to take my stockpile needs to understand that it will be VERY expensive for them. Better to try someplace else.

Also, a mobile stockpile would be much smaller. And I can take a vehicle easier than a brick building.

 

[WinterBorn]

So just keeping your body functioning is enough?

Without it, there is nothing else.

I disagree.

But if the human race can't do any better than being sharks with legs, then maybe extinction isn't such a bad thing.

If I have prepared to take care of my family and loved ones, opening my doors to everyone who asks will doom us all (depending on how long the collapse lasts).

It is about choices.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Fun iis the operative word. The world is not going to collapse. But if you are a real prepper (thank you for using the correct term), no one is going to come knocking at my door because they won't have any idea you are one.

Not sure how you'd be able to hide it;

Depending on what hysterical nutjob you listen to..

Gas maybe $20 a gallon. Yet you're still driving your SUV around. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

The critical infrastructure could be attacked wiping out electric and communication lines. Yet your house is illuminated at night. Seems obvious that you've prepped.

Unless you're just going to hunker down and never leave it seems as though the cat will be out of the bag.

Even if you have prepared, the key is being discreet. I have about 6 months worth but I'm not a prepper...just prepared to help out the family and someone who may be in need.

This is the entire reason I live in the sticks. I've put away 1,000 of gallons of gasoline, I have fresh spring water, cattle, pigs, chickens and a 2 acre truck farm for vegetables. I have a forest full of firewood and I have 2 generators. I have a secure security system that gives me ample warning of trespassers.

I'm no "prepper" either. However, the man that doesn't have enough sense to see what is coming down the pike, and prepare for the inevitable, doesn't deserve to live - he deserves to be a "victim". Should I die of old age before hit happens (and at 70, that is a distinct possibility) my kids know to come here.

Here's the point. This country is on the slow-burn for trouble. It IS coming. and it IS coming soon. No paranoia here - just common sense.

 

[WinterBorn]

it amazes me when republicans feel we liberals feel that we can't survive without a government hand out ... we dems have never relied on government hand out ... what we have said because we are a working government that we should take care of the unfornate when needed ... what makes you think that liberals don't have surviuvakl shelters too ... you seem to have these Ideas that we liberals never prepair for the worst... we are linerals thats what we do ...

Conservatives think
Liberals feel

The difference between the two.

Feeling is subjective whereas thinking is objective.

Feeling is emotional whereas thinking is rational.

Feeling is based upon our perception of right and wrong whereas thinking is based upon facts and logic.
Thinking is continuous and nonstop whereas feeling is affective state of consciousness


Thinking is an activity or process that has been considered as objective and rational as it is based upon facts and helps us arrive at decisions. Thinking allows us to judge and evaluate an object, issue, situation, or a person.

People who use feelings are ruled by their hearts and are more subjective than people who think rationally.

Building a personal "world collapse" survival bunker, buying assault rifles, cases of ammunition and a ton of dried foods does not require anyone to be either a conservative or a liberal, it requires you to be a total idiot and I`m starting to wonder, (as much as I dislike liberal ideology )...why so many idiots who do that also dislike liberals. I might have to start liking liberals who don`t dig holes in the ground and threaten to kill anybody who goes near it or asks for help....if "conservatives" like you keep on saying that this kind of paranoia is a result of rational thinking.
And long before I will start liking liberals there will be millions of Americans who will start liking liberals more than a party that harbors people who prefer to kill others rather than helping them.
It`s total nut cases claiming to be conservatives, like the kind that post this kind of crap here, that it`s okay to kill people who are looking for help that are causing the demise of conservatism.
Why wait to the "end of days" and a personal survival bunker scenario...where it`s "Okay" to shoot people who are asking for help....these nutcases would prefer to do it already today at the US/Mexico border or better yet, join the IDF. Then you can kill a lot more people and get applauded for doing so.No wonder the liberal media has it so easy to make conservatives look like primitive Neanderthalers.

I am a gun buff, whether we are talking prepping or not. I love to hunt, target shoot, and remove vermin from my land. I also like to have a good stockpile of food. Several years ago I was unexpectedly laid off for 5 months. The stockpile of food got us thru the tight times without any difficulty. Some of the prepping ideas are not exclusive to TEOTWAWKI.