What is the point of a “DEBT CEILING” if we just keep raising it?

[Smokin' OP]

The retard you are keeps forgetting about COVID which caused every nation on earth to go way over their budgets.
You really are mentally ill.

Wow, should COVID matter?
Incidences like the oil crises, under Carter didn't seem to matter to republicans...........still to this day.

January 14 2021
By early 2019, the national debt had climbed to $22 trillion. Trump’s budget proposal for 2020 called it a “grave threat to our economic and societal prosperity” and asserted that the U.S. was experiencing a “national debt crisis.” However, that same budget proposal included substantial growth in the national debt.

By the end of 2019, the debt had risen to $23.2 trillion.
Almost $5 trillion more in debt BEFORE COVID was even around.

 

[Smokin' OP]

7.5 trillion due to COVID went to Americans.
Biden sends billions to other nations.

You're FOS...........as usual.

 

[Indeependent]

You're FOS...........as usual.

Great argument.
MSNBC needs you.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Great argument.
MSNBC needs you.

January 14 2021
By early 2019, the national debt had climbed to $22 trillion. Trump’s budget proposal for 2020 called it a “grave threat to our economic and societal prosperity” and asserted that the U.S. was experiencing a “national debt crisis.” However, that same budget proposal included substantial growth in the national debt.

By the end of 2019, the debt had risen to $23.2 trillion.
Almost $5 trillion more in debt BEFORE COVID was even around.
$5 trillion in 2 years.

 

[Indeependent]

January 14 2021
By early 2019, the national debt had climbed to $22 trillion. Trump’s budget proposal for 2020 called it a “grave threat to our economic and societal prosperity” and asserted that the U.S. was experiencing a “national debt crisis.” However, that same budget proposal included substantial growth in the national debt.

By the end of 2019, the debt had risen to $23.2 trillion.
Almost $5 trillion more in debt BEFORE COVID was even around.
$5 trillion in 2 years.

You are truly an idiot.
There was no COVID in 2019, you blithering moron, and everyone was employed and paying taxes and spending money in the US.
The problem with those before Trump and Biden is that wages were, and are, being sent back home to foreign countries.

 

[Smokin' OP]

You are truly an idiot.
There was no COVID in 2019, you blithering moron, and everyone was employed and paying taxes and spending money in the US.
The problem with those before Trump and Biden is that wages were, and are, being sent back home to foreign countries.

You're a lying, moron.

"7.5 trillion due to COVID went to Americans".

December 27 2020
President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said.
Trump signed off on the $2.3 trillion package from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., days after he expressed displeasure with the spending outlined in the omnibus spending bill.

President Donald Trump signed a $900 billion COVID-19 relief package Sunday, despite a remarkable video message he posted to social media days earlier in which he called the bipartisan legislation a "disgrace."

"I am signing this bill to restore unemployment benefits, stop evictions, provide rental assistance, add money for PPP, return our airline workers back to work, add substantially more money for vaccine distribution, and much more," Trump said in a statement announcing he had signed the bill.


No where close, to $7.5 billion......LIAR.

 

[Indeependent]

You're a lying, moron.

"7.5 trillion due to COVID went to Americans".

December 27 2020
President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said.
Trump signed off on the $2.3 trillion package from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., days after he expressed displeasure with the spending outlined in the omnibus spending bill.

President Donald Trump signed a $900 billion COVID-19 relief package Sunday, despite a remarkable video message he posted to social media days earlier in which he called the bipartisan legislation a "disgrace."

"I am signing this bill to restore unemployment benefits, stop evictions, provide rental assistance, add money for PPP, return our airline workers back to work, add substantially more money for vaccine distribution, and much more," Trump said in a statement announcing he had signed the bill.


No where close, to $7.5 billion......LIAR.

The 5 trillion built the US economy.
We only sent money overseas because the Democrats vetoed Trump’s veto.

 

[Indeependent]

You're a lying, moron.

"7.5 trillion due to COVID went to Americans".

December 27 2020
President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said.
Trump signed off on the $2.3 trillion package from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., days after he expressed displeasure with the spending outlined in the omnibus spending bill.

President Donald Trump signed a $900 billion COVID-19 relief package Sunday, despite a remarkable video message he posted to social media days earlier in which he called the bipartisan legislation a "disgrace."

"I am signing this bill to restore unemployment benefits, stop evictions, provide rental assistance, add money for PPP, return our airline workers back to work, add substantially more money for vaccine distribution, and much more," Trump said in a statement announcing he had signed the bill.


No where close, to $7.5 billion......LIAR.

Based on what you just posted, it wasn’t Trump that caused the deficit, it was Congress.

 

[Smokin' OP]

The 5 trillion built the US economy.
We only sent money overseas because the Democrats vetoed Trump’s veto.

Sure they did.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Based on what you just posted, it wasn’t Trump that caused the deficit, it was Congress.

Sure they did, it's always someone else's fault, a constant excuse for republicans

 

[j-mac]

A debt ceiling means nothing if you just keep raising it. The point of a debt ceiling is to cut spending if you are approaching the ceiling.

Just continuing to spend like crazy so you have to keep raising the debt ceiling is stupid.

Its just an arbitrary number that keeps raising.

The Congress should get rid of the debt ceiling because it doesnt matter anyways.

I say put any raising of a debit ceiling to a referendum...Let the people decide....

 

[j-mac]

Sure they did, it's always someone else's fault, a constant excuse for republicans

Did you really type that with a straight face?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Did you really type that with a straight face?

Yes.
Right out of the Trump play book.

“Trump accuses the WHO of ‘severely mismanaging and covering up’ the coronavirus crisis. He says the US ‘has a duty to insist on full accountability.’ He criticizes the WHO for opposing travel restrictions. He touts his own restrictions on China.”

TRUMP in January: “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well.”

TRUMP in February: “Well, I think China is very, you know, professionally run, in the sense that they have everything under control.”

As he moves toward reopening the country, Trump tried to pass blame onto governors for issues with ramping up testing despite his administration’s delay in producing adequate testing and failure to distribute testing supplies.
As he moves toward reopening the country, Trump tried to pass blame onto governors for issues with ramping up testing despite his administration’s delay in producing adequate testing and failure to distribute testing supplies.

 

[j-mac]

Yes.
Right out of the Trump play book.

“Trump accuses the WHO of ‘severely mismanaging and covering up’ the coronavirus crisis. He says the US ‘has a duty to insist on full accountability.’ He criticizes the WHO for opposing travel restrictions. He touts his own restrictions on China.”

TRUMP in January: “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well.”

TRUMP in February: “Well, I think China is very, you know, professionally run, in the sense that they have everything under control.”

As he moves toward reopening the country, Trump tried to pass blame onto governors for issues with ramping up testing despite his administration’s delay in producing adequate testing and failure to distribute testing supplies.
As he moves toward reopening the country, Trump tried to pass blame onto governors for issues with ramping up testing despite his administration’s delay in producing adequate testing and failure to distribute testing supplies.

Who closed down the States?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Who closed down the States?

March 30 2020
Last week, U.S. President Donald Trump dangled the possibility of reopening the U.S. economy by Easter. Now he has changed his mind. At a White House Rose Garden briefing, Trump extended the current guidelines on social distancing until April 30, keeping the United States in line with measures taken by other nations gripped by the coronavirus pandemic to keep their populations at home.

 

[j-mac]

March 30 2020
Last week, U.S. President Donald Trump dangled the possibility of reopening the U.S. economy by Easter. Now he has changed his mind. At a White House Rose Garden briefing, Trump extended the current guidelines on social distancing until April 30, keeping the United States in line with measures taken by other nations gripped by the coronavirus pandemic to keep their populations at home.

God you are an insidious little propagandist aren't you?

Trump resists national shutdown, leaving it up to states

This is despite his administration's projections that tens of thousands of Americans are likely to be killed by the disease.

www.pbs.org

 

[Indeependent]

Sure they did.

Yeah, they did.
Try Google once in a while.

 

[Indeependent]

Sure they did, it's always someone else's fault, a constant excuse for republicans

That was your post, not mine.
Feel stupid yet?

 

[Smokin' OP]

God you are an insidious little propagandist aren't you?

Trump resists national shutdown, leaving it up to states

This is despite his administration's projections that tens of thousands of Americans are likely to be killed by the disease.

www.pbs.org

Awww, another cult member, like their leader, denies the truth.

" If Trump extended the current guidelines on social distancing on social distancing until April 30".

NOT a shutdown.
But if a governor does it, IT'S A SHUTDOWN.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Yeah, they did.
Try Google once in a while.

As, usual, you're FOS.
Democrats vetoed Trump 10 times, only one was sustained, with republicans helping.

January 1 2021
President Donald Trump suffered a stinging rebuke in the U.S. Senate on Friday when fellow Republicans joined Democrats to override a presidential veto for the first time in his tenure, pushing through a defense policy bill he opposed just weeks before he leaves office.

Meeting in a rare New Year’s Day session, senators voted 81-13 to secure the two-thirds majority needed to override the veto. Eight previous Trump vetoes had been upheld.

The Senate also ended for now a push by Democrats to increase COVID-19 financial relief checks from $600 to $2,000, a change sought by Trump.

The Democratic-controlled House of Representatives on Monday voted to override the veto. A president has the power to veto a bill passed by Congress, but lawmakers can uphold the bill if two-thirds of both houses vote to override the veto.

The $740 billion National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) determines everything from how many ships are bought to soldiers’ pay and how to address geopolitical threats.


WHICH, the NDAA, didn't earmark, ANY $$$, for Ukraine.