What If a Nuke Was Set To Explode Tomorrow ?

[protectionist]

I ask all posters to this thread to answer the following question with a YES or NO answer. Add more if desired, but please don't omit a yes or no answer.

Suppose a terrorist was captured and being interrogated by the FBI. Suppose he told the agents that a nuclear bomb was scheduled to be detonated in New York City, within 24 hours. With an estimated 2017 population of 8.6 Million, and despite being distributed over a massive land area of about 302.6 square miles, New York City is also the most densely populated major city in the United States.

If this nuclear bomb, of significant size and power, were exploded, it would kill millions of people, and be the most horrific single event in human history. And suppose the terrorist said he knew who the perpetrator was in charge of this heinous act, his location, the location of the device to be used to detonate the bomb, and how to easily disable it.

Bear in mind that torture is illegal under US law (Title 18 of US Code, Section 2340A)​

So here's the question. >> Would/should we allow millions of fellow Americans to be incinerated and radiated by this monstrous event, or would/should we do whatever it takes (including torture) to get this information from this terrorist, if it's apparent that that would stop the bomb ?

YES or NO.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I ask all posters to this thread to answer the following question with a YES or NO answer. Add more if desired, but please don't omit a yes or no answer.

Suppose a terrorist was captured and being interrogated by the FBI. Suppose he told the agents that a nuclear bomb was scheduled to be detonated in New York City, within 24 hours. With an estimated 2017 population of 8.6 Million, and despite being distributed over a massive land area of about 302.6 square miles, New York City is also the most densely populated major city in the United States.

If this nuclear bomb, of significant size and power, were exploded, it would kill millions of people, and be the most horrific single event in human history. And suppose the terrorist said he knew who the perpetrator was in charge of this heinous act, his location, the location of the device to be used to detonate the bomb, and how to easily disable it.

Bear in mind that torture is illegal under US law (Title 18 of US Code, Section 2340A)​

So here's the question. >> Would/should we allow millions of fellow Americans to be incinerated and radiated by this monstrous event, or would/should we do whatever it takes (including torture) to get this information from this terrorist, if it's apparent that that would stop the bomb ?

YES or NO.

/----/ Yes, all Americans should be willing to sacrifice their lives to protect the feelings of Terrorists. Remember one man's terrorist another man's freedom fighter.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

First I'd start with the toenails.......

 

[protectionist]

/----/ Yes, all Americans should be willing to sacrifice their lives to protect the feelings of Terrorists. Remember one man's terrorist another man's freedom fighter.

I hear you, and I agree with you, but this isn't the thread for sarcasm humor. I know your vote is no, but not everyone might perceive it right.

 

[DrLove]

No - Because torture doesn't work. The one being tortured will say whatever it takes to make it stop.

You ain't Jack Bauer - and neither is the CIA.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

No - Because torture doesn't work. The one being tortured will say whatever it takes to make it stop.

You ain't Jack Bauer - and neither is the CIA.

So you'd just ask him nicely for the location of the bomb?
And here's the thing.
The torture isnt going to stop. And you let him know in no uncertain terms that if he gives bad info what he's just experienced will be like playing paddy cake compared to whats coming.

 

[DrLove]

So you'd just ask him nicely for the location of the bomb?
And here's the thing.
The torture isnt going to stop. And you let him know in no uncertain terms that if he gives bad info what he's just experienced will be like playing paddy cake compared to whats coming.

OP is an age-old hypothetical - It simply wouldn't happen.

 

[Rocko]

No - Because torture doesn't work. The one being tortured will say whatever it takes to make it stop.

You ain't Jack Bauer - and neither is the CIA.

What happens when all else fails? Then I’d say give torture a shot

 

[Rocko]

So you'd just ask him nicely for the location of the bomb?
And here's the thing.
The torture isnt going to stop. And you let him know in no uncertain terms that if he gives bad info what he's just experienced will be like playing paddy cake compared to whats coming.

OP is an age-old hypothetical - It simply wouldn't happen.

Why couldn’t it happen?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So you'd just ask him nicely for the location of the bomb?
And here's the thing.
The torture isnt going to stop. And you let him know in no uncertain terms that if he gives bad info what he's just experienced will be like playing paddy cake compared to whats coming.

OP is an age-old hypothetical - It simply wouldn't happen.

Why couldnt it happen?

 

[DrLove]

Why couldn’t it happen?

Well, the super caldera at Yellowstone could blow in my lifetime too - but the odds are about one in a million.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Why couldn’t it happen?

Well, the super caldera at Yellowstone could blow in my lifetime too - but the odds are about one in a million.

Thats not an answer.

 

[Rocko]

Why couldn’t it happen?

Well, the super caldera at Yellowstone could blow in my lifetime too - but the odds are about one in a million.

How did u come to that conclusion? It seems like a plausible scenario to me

 

[DrLove]

Thats not an answer.

Sure it is -

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I'd say the most likely point of ingress would be across our southern border.

 

[Defiant1]

I ask all posters to this thread to answer the following question with a YES or NO answer. Add more if desired, but please don't omit a yes or no answer.

Suppose a terrorist was captured and being interrogated by the FBI. Suppose he told the agents that a nuclear bomb was scheduled to be detonated in New York City, within 24 hours. With an estimated 2017 population of 8.6 Million, and despite being distributed over a massive land area of about 302.6 square miles, New York City is also the most densely populated major city in the United States.

If this nuclear bomb, of significant size and power, were exploded, it would kill millions of people, and be the most horrific single event in human history. And suppose the terrorist said he knew who the perpetrator was in charge of this heinous act, his location, the location of the device to be used to detonate the bomb, and how to easily disable it.

Bear in mind that torture is illegal under US law (Title 18 of US Code, Section 2340A)​

So here's the question. >> Would/should we allow millions of fellow Americans to be incinerated and radiated by this monstrous event, or would/should we do whatever it takes (including torture) to get this information from this terrorist, if it's apparent that that would stop the bomb ?

YES or NO.

New York City.
Meh

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I ask all posters to this thread to answer the following question with a YES or NO answer. Add more if desired, but please don't omit a yes or no answer.

Suppose a terrorist was captured and being interrogated by the FBI. Suppose he told the agents that a nuclear bomb was scheduled to be detonated in New York City, within 24 hours. With an estimated 2017 population of 8.6 Million, and despite being distributed over a massive land area of about 302.6 square miles, New York City is also the most densely populated major city in the United States.

If this nuclear bomb, of significant size and power, were exploded, it would kill millions of people, and be the most horrific single event in human history. And suppose the terrorist said he knew who the perpetrator was in charge of this heinous act, his location, the location of the device to be used to detonate the bomb, and how to easily disable it.

Bear in mind that torture is illegal under US law (Title 18 of US Code, Section 2340A)​

So here's the question. >> Would/should we allow millions of fellow Americans to be incinerated and radiated by this monstrous event, or would/should we do whatever it takes (including torture) to get this information from this terrorist, if it's apparent that that would stop the bomb ?

YES or NO.

New York City.
Meh

That would be pretty hard to pull off and a lot more risky than bringing it in through our friends south of the border.
So L.A. or Las Vegas maybe?

 

[DrLove]

How did u come to that conclusion? It seems like a plausible scenario to me

It is wrong to base policy on extreme hypotheticals and flawed logic.

BBC - Ethics - Torture: The 'ticking bomb' problem

The 'Ticking Time-Bomb' Defense of Torture Is Evasive and Irrelevant - The Atlantic

 

[there4eyeM]

This is the kind of binary thinking to which Americans are so addicted. Either A or B. Good and evil. "Communist" or "capitalist".
Torture? Why not just truth drugs and hypnosis?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

How did u come to that conclusion? It seems like a plausible scenario to me

It is wrong to base policy on extreme hypotheticals and flawed logic.

BBC - Ethics - Torture: The 'ticking bomb' problem

The 'Ticking Time-Bomb' Defense of Torture Is Evasive and Irrelevant - The Atlantic

Alright,how about this scenario.
We dont torture him and the bomb goes off killing millions of Americans.
We then nuke the living shit out of a half dozen muslim cities across the middle east.
You good with that?